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  • 2012 Diesel 2.0 Manual Estate 58 35 1495 75 5 The small digital display for Km/h when driving in EU. Would prefer kilometres to be shown on normal speedo with MPH and not displayed in the centre of the consol with all the other trip readings etc., a very minor point.<br />The car does come with a tyre repair kit and no wheel brace or jack as standard; I did have an option of a skinny spare or a full size steel spare wheel. <br />I took the full size steel wheel option which does come with a wheel brace and jack for an extra £75.00, the tyre is a 195, standard car tyre 205, so still limited to 50mph and can be used for towing with the correct tyre pressure for towing.<br />Changes that to a good point.<br /> 5 Tows very well and stable, plenty of power on steeper hills, good gear ratio and with Haldex no front wheel spin when doing a steep hill start on a very wet road.<br /> 5 Fast, very relaxing to drive, easy to park in town, good load space for work use.<br />Very pleased. 5 Cannot comment on this, only done 12,600 miles in 18 months and it has not had its first service yet. But cannot foresee any problems. 4 Yes, very easy to live with, it suits our needs, solo, work and towing and the wife likes to drive it and gets her thumbs up.<br />Skoda 'simply clever' Octavia 4x4, for those that want a lighter car to tow a lighter caravan with that bit of extra traction. 5 New Franchised dealer Very good sales person, explained and answered all my questions.<br />Did have a 7 month wait from order, was kept informed, told when the car was to be built and finally the delivery date.<br />Very good hand over, followed by courtesy calls.<br />Benfield Skoda.<br /> https://www.caravantalk.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_06_2013/ccs-45681-0-24801700-1372257623.jpg,monthly_06_2013/ccs-45681-0-24738000-1372258002.jpg,monthly_06_2013/ccs-45681-0-48567300-1372258059.jpg,monthly_06_2013/ccs-45681-0-52979800-1372270776.jpg,monthly_06_2013/ccs-45681-0-31554100-1372426154.jpg,monthly_06_2013/ccs-45681-0-38978200-1372426562.jpg Yes
Very good VW/Audi group 138Bhp CR engine, smooth with good torque of 320nm/1,750 – 2,500rpm
Fuel economy towing and solo.
Plenty of load space with good payload.
Comfortable driving position.
Haldex 4x4 traction on demand, up to 100% power to rear wheels when needed. Very good traction on a muddy 5 van site, after traction control was turned off!
Slightly raised suspension with under body protection over standard model, more ground clearance when on rally fields.
Like the dual zone air con. and touch screen radio/CD and SD card slot.
Good towcar for the lighter caravan range, I tow a Sprite Alpine 4.
Kerbweight of 1,495kg includes EU 75kg driver / fuel and stated in handbook, same weight on V5C.
This weight does not include towbar and optional steel spare wheel.
Towing limit 1,600kg.
Price, value for money and a good deal was also a factor to buy Skoda.
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Interesting review.

 

This afternoon I went to our local Skoda dealers and had a look at the new Octavia. They gave me a brochure which I've perused at home.

 

I was quite surprised to see that the new 4x4 estate version has a kerbweight of 1380kg, 115kg lighter than CC's version reported above. That shifts the size of van it can pull well down and if you insist on working to the '85% recommendation' you're talking of a van with a max. MTPLM of only 1173kg.

 

Even worse if you go for 1. 6 diesel 4x4 version (KWt 1360kg) and if you want a front wheel drive 1. 6 diesel Octavia estate the kerbweight is only 1247kg, giving an 85% figure of 1060kg.

 

So it looks like mainstream Octavias are out of the game for most caravan towing purposes.

 

Rather misleadingly the Skoda brochure says the 2 litre 4x4 will pull 2,000kg, the 1. 6 litre 4x4 1,700kg and the front drive 1. 6 1,500kg which would have you towing at 145%, 125% and 120% respectively. I'm sure those engines are capable of dragging those sorts of weights up a slight incline, but the thought of a 1380kg car in charge of a 2,000kg van going downhill at 60mph is chilling.

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That is my concern when the time comes to change to Octavia, maybe just keep it. The new MK3 versions are around 100kg lighter, with my Alpine 4 1,230kg at 82%, with the new Octavia K/Weight 1,380kg I would be at 89% still OK, but to stay at 85% recommendation a lighter van or 2 berth, with a reduced choice of caravan for others who may consider the Octavia 4x4. With the Yeti less boot space, you would not get in the same load as the Octavia.

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Yes I actually went to the Skoda dealers to look at the Yeti, but I was reminded how small the boot was and as far as I can see we'd actually have to remove the rear seats for our dog crate to fit. Currently the crate will fit in the Cee'd's boot or on the folded back of the rear seats. That means that once on site the rear seats can be used, whereas with the Yeti they'd have to be left at home.

 

It looks like a 4x4 Superb might be the way to go in future.

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My 07 Skoda Scout has a kerbweight of 1625 kg which increases caravan options.

 

It appears they've dropped the 'Scout' name on the new model and are just calling it a '4x4'.

 

No mention of an auto version of the 4x4 yet.

 

To amend the comments on here about kerbweight, I understand that the weight hasn't reduced by 100kg, but the way that KW is calculated has been changed (shades of caravan MIRO). Apparently the 'old' kerbweight included 68kg for a nominal (and very slim) driver plus 7kg for associated gear, thereby adding 75kg to the 'empty' weight of the car. The 'new' standard for calculating KW doesn't include a driver or the equipment and is therefore 75kg less and the 75kg becomes part of the car's payload. So in effect the Octavia has only dropped 25kg between old and new models.

 

Of course such changes make you think about the '85% recommendation'.

 

If the new model 2 litre 4x4 Estate Octavia had used the 'old' version of kerbweight 85% would amount to 1237kg, whereas using the 'new' kerbweight measure 85% is only 1175kg. With quite a number of caravans having 1200kg MTPLMs the new system knocks the Octavia out of contention for those who worry about such things.

 

Or should the % be altered as presumably all car makers will be moving over to the new system? To get 1237kg from 1380kg means a % of 90, as near as dammit. So should 90 be the new 85?

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My 07 Skoda Scout has a kerbweight of 1625 kg which increases caravan options.

We have the 08 scout with a quoted kerbweight of 1605 . we bought it in preference to new model because of the weight reduction, Regarding the 4x4 Superb, not sure the set up is intended to make it a"soft" off roader or just to improve its road holding .

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Looked at a Yeti yesterday at the local Skoda dealers.

 

I am 6 foot,not a ridiculous height,and the steering wheel was rubbing on my thighs with the seat back as far as it would go.

 

Mind you a Kia Sorento did more or less the same.

 

Ian

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The Scout will reappear early next year in Mk3 format.

According to our local dealer it won't be called 'Scout' though, just '4x4' as per the current Octavia brochure.

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My dealer and most info in magazines states the Scout will re-appear in early 2014 . .. meantime ordinary 4x4 Octy's are available.

 

Looked at a Yeti yesterday at the local Skoda dealers.

 

I am 6 foot,not a ridiculous height,and the steering wheel was rubbing on my thighs with the seat back as far as it would go.

 

Mind you a Kia Sorento did more or less the same.

 

Ian

 

No problem with mine and I'm just under six feet. Not heard anyone else mention this on the Skoda forums either.

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My dealer and most info in magazines states the Scout will re-appear in early 2014 . .. meantime ordinary 4x4 Octy's are available.

 

 

No problem with mine and I'm just under six feet. Not heard anyone else mention this on the Skoda forums either.

I must admit that I never got in the Yeti to try it out with my 6ft 2ins frame and newly lithe 16. 5 stone frame, standing at the back looking at the relatively small boot and seeing that you'd have to roll up the rear seats and remove them to get the room we need was enough

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We have the 08 scout with a quoted kerbweight of 1605 . we bought it in preference to new model because of the weight reduction, Regarding the 4x4 Superb, not sure the set up is intended to make it a"soft" off roader or just to improve its road holding .

david

Hi David. ....Just checked the V5 and the Mass in service is 1605 (Think this is the newish kerbweight name) not sure where i got 1625kg from ! :rolleyes:

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Hi there, I'm not too sure with all this 85% stuff. With my Land Rover Discovery I regularly much in excess of 85%. LR weighs in at 2,250kgs or thereabouts and tows another LR on a car trailer, so in total weight about 3 1/4 to 3 1/2 tons. Of course it's not like towing a box of air but I do know my Bailey Senator Carolina is there on behind the Disco. I am not too experienced with regards caravans but do have 25 years + HGV 1 experience so maybe that will hold me in good stead.

Paul. K

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