Scaramanga Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 As the above title states. How do you fit these on twin axles? Obviously the first lock is easy to fit if you have a mover. But what about fitting to the second wheel? I did ask a guy when i was on holiday how he fitted the second and he said he used a trolley jack to line the second wheel up with the lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpete Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) As the above title states. How do you fit these on twin axles? Obviously the first lock is easy to fit if you have a mover. But what about fitting to the second wheel? I did ask a guy when i was on holiday how he fitted the second and he said he used a trolley jack to line the second wheel up with the lock. This has been discussed at quite some length in a thread started by Rita (bless her) and I think it was in caravan gadgets. However the system RitaG found (and many of us bought) is called Lock-N-Level manufactured and sold exclusively by Delter-Coulson. Just Google LockNLevel. They are Trade Members of this forum and they will be exhibiting at this weekend NFOL C&CC rally on Anglesey here is the link to RitaG's thread Levelling A Twin Axle in Top Tips Started by RitaG, 12 Mar 2014 easy way, twin axle 1 2 3 9 → Last Post by DeltaTIowner, 15 Jun 2014 Edited August 21, 2014 by Superpete Quote PeteRange Rover(s) towing Buccaneer Caravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpete Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The C&CC NFOL Rally is not this weekend, it is 28 Aug to 01 Sept at the Anglesey Agricultural Showground Gwalchmai, Holyhead, Anglesey, LL65 4RW. Quote PeteRange Rover(s) towing Buccaneer Caravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durbanite Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 As the above title states. How do you fit these on twin axles? Obviously the first lock is easy to fit if you have a mover. But what about fitting to the second wheel? I did ask a guy when i was on holiday how he fitted the second and he said he used a trolley jack to line the second wheel up with the lock. We have a Lock 'n Level kit for our caravan and its the best thing since bubble gum! Easy to fit the lock onto both wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease Monkey Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 The first weekend we had ours I needed to remove one of my wheels to check on something. The Lock N' Level allowed me to remove and refit the wheel without use of a jack. It also performed flawlessly when leveling the van. First class piece of kit. Quote Toyota Landcruiser and Fleetwood Heritage 640 ES(T) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepyfolk Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 +1 lock n level, or KoJack if you're LnL is on the offside, some folks have bought a single LnL for this situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee21 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 +1 lock n level, or KoJack if you're LnL is on the offside, some folks have bought a single LnL for this situation +1 We have a double and a single LnL . Had to level on the offside at one site we visited recently so used the single to fit the locks and we can also use it to jack up to change a wheel as we have a mover installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gellyneck Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Used a Kojack lifting system and got it down to about 10 minutes from front receiver being aligned using the mover. Even faster now as we've moved the wheels further apart. Changed to a motorhome! Did look at LnL but as already having the Kojack decided the expenditure was not really worth it. OK, OK so the MH was more but . ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaramanga Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Hmmm. Looks like i may have to invest. But what about if i use the LnL at home to fit tge wheel locks and the caravan is stood for a few months. Is that ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpete Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hmmm. Looks like i may have to invest. But what about if i use the LnL at home to fit tge wheel locks and the caravan is stood for a few months. Is that ok? Yes that was part of the development testing. Why don't you visit their website, then give them a phone call and talk to Derek? He'll answer any and all questions. Quote PeteRange Rover(s) towing Buccaneer Caravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee21 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://delter-culson. co. uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozsing Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Could you use one of these to change a flat tyre on a single axle ?, ie pump up, take weight on corner steadies change wheel . Quote Lunar Ultima 540 Honda CRV 2. 2 Diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpete Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Could you use one of these to change a flat tyre on a single axle ?, ie pump up, take weight on corner steadies change wheel . Yes you can - but your methodology is flawed. It is recommended that the weight of the caravan should never be loaded onto the steadies - they are just that, steadies. The caravan weight should always be supported via the axles. So the procedure would be, use L-N-L to raise the caravan - on SA 'vans, place support (axle stand?) under axle, deflate L-N-L, change wheel, inflate L-N-L, remove support, deflate L-N-L, pack away the "kit" carry-on. With TA 'vans, it's much simpler - just raise the 'van with L-N-L under the tire that is not punctured, change the punctured one, deflate L-N-L pack away the "kit" and carry-on. Quote PeteRange Rover(s) towing Buccaneer Caravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroGoat Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hi We have a LnL for our twin axle van and a great bit of kit it is although we have never used it to fit the second lock as our insurance (Towergate) has agreed, in writing, that we can use just one although we do also fit an AlKo hitch lock. Steve Quote Steve (BroGoat) travel blog - www. adventure-before-dementia. co. uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpete Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Hi We have a LnL for our twin axle van and a great bit of kit it is although we have never used it to fit the second lock as our insurance (Towergate) has agreed, in writing, that we can use just one although we do also fit an AlKo hitch lock. Steve We have the same agreement with the same company Quote PeteRange Rover(s) towing Buccaneer Caravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgeezer Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I just use the Alko jack and mount onto the jacking mount that was fitted by our Dealer. takes about 2 mins to jack wheels off ground and fit both Alko locks. there is no issue when the van is lowered with the locks becoming tight in the wheel ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durbanite Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hmmm. Looks like i may have to invest. But what about if i use the LnL at home to fit tge wheel locks and the caravan is stood for a few months. Is that ok? Have you purchased one yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Kid Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 there is no issue when the van is lowered with the locks becoming tight in the wheel ! So you have to jack it again to take the locks off? or do you have to move the van to free them? Quote Roughing it . . but in comfort . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaramanga Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Have you purchased one yet? Not yet. I dont get my new van till november Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nme2no1 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Talk to your insurers, it made about £17 difference to my premium, it wasn't worth the hassle, I fit one lock and a hitchlock. If anyone nicks my van, I don't want it back anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgeezer Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So you have to jack it again to take the locks off? or do you have to move the van to free them? Nope, just remove the lock barrels and crack the bolt and it will unscrew with my fingers on both wheels so clearly they are not stressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Kid Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Nope, just remove the lock barrels and crack the bolt and it will unscrew with my fingers on both wheels so clearly they are not stressed Mea culpa . . I misunderstood . . read it as meaning 'no problem even though they become jammed when lowering' Quote Roughing it . . but in comfort . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durbanite Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 In the heading of the quoted text why does it show ***** in the name of the OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyJover Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 In the heading of the quoted text why does it show ***** in the name of the OP? My guess is that the missing part is also a slang form of the exclamation J e s u s. So the auto-moderation auto-moderated it. That's only a guess though. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durbanite Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 My guess is that the missing part is also a slang form of the exclamation J e s u s. So the auto-moderation auto-moderated it. That's only a guess though. T I gather that, but it allows the full username in the left hand column???????? Strange things these auto moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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