scotsstag Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The landcruiser should be compared to a defender IMHO not a Disco or Range Rover Steady on, going to a Landcruiser from my new Defender would be a huge backwards step in refinement. . Quote Defender 90 cruising along with a Coachman Laser 640/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A11 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Steady on, going to a Landcruiser from my new Defender would be a huge backwards step in refinement. . Who cares about refinement? I'm no school run mum! Rather, it would take a modern version of the 101FC to make me switch over! Mind you, the last time I drove a 101, I had to repair it in the middle of a safari. Fortunately an easy fix - the throttle cable had snapped, so I just took the engine cover off, and drove it by reaching down and operating the throttle lever by hand. - the advantages of having the engine in the cab with you and nice simple mechanics! PS. DOes this type of driving become mandatory with a Defender? http://www. bbc. co. uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-31117109 Edited February 8, 2015 by A11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A11 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Putting the banter to one side, this looks worth a visit. http://www. telegraph. co. uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/land-rover/11385510/How-a-Land-Rover-Defender-is-made. html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel207 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 The money I save by avoiding LR dealers for my tow car/winter car pays for me to run an mx5 as a second car, which gives me the ride, drive, etc Not ready to swap the pair for anything else at the moment. If I did, the top contender would be a 3 series 330d X-drive (4x4) estate Well I'll bet you've spent as much at your Toyota Dealer as I have at a LR one over the past three years of D4 ownership - i. e. nothing other than routine maintenance! We used to have an MX-5 too, what a great little fun car! Swapped it three years ago for a Mini (which is not in the same league for putting a smile on yer face!). Quote 1958 Morris Minor towing 2012 Hobby Landhaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A11 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Well I'll bet you've spent as much at your Toyota Dealer as I have at a LR one over the past three years of D4 ownership - i. e. nothing other than routine maintenance! We used to have an MX-5 too, what a great little fun car! Swapped it three years ago for a Mini (which is not in the same league for putting a smile on yer face!). Strangely, the Mazda costs more for main dealer servicing than the LC. The LC comes in at £180 or so for a minor service and £240 or so for a major at my local main dealer. This low price is one of the reasons I've still been going to the main dealer for LC servicing, but am about to start doing my own for the Mazda. Even my wife's little Honda Jazz costs more for main dealer servicing than the LC. I do like the looks of the D4, and the big Range Rover. But buying one would mean selling my MX-5 to make the economics work, which I'm not prepared to do. Like you, I love the MX-5. I probably drive that for 8 months of the year, hence not being that bothered by the LC handling. Edited February 8, 2015 by A11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddywheels Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Having owned a landcruiser will admit I do miss the cheaper servicing costs LR servicing is a rip off and new prices are terrifying but sales are rocketing They must be doing something right Edited February 8, 2015 by Muddywheels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick J Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's gone very quiet on this thread, maybe they are all down the garage. .. Quote Volvo XC60 & Hobby Premium 540efu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaEuropa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's gone very quiet on this thread, maybe they are all down the garage. .. . ..or stuck behind a bogged L Cruiser? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravanner1 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Stuck behind mercs stuck on frost Quote If I'd have known I was going to be this thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick J Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Ah, nice to see there are still some Green Oval owners around. ... Quote Volvo XC60 & Hobby Premium 540efu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaEuropa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Ah, nice to see there are still some Green Oval owners around. ... I'm just a stirrer on this thread. Keeps it going (still falling way behind the Bailey Triceratops III thread though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick J Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'm sorry if I disturbed you, I was on the Land Cruiser forum in the technical help section and nearly fell to sleep I was so bored, no one has been on there for ages. .... 1 Quote Volvo XC60 & Hobby Premium 540efu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaEuropa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'm sorry if I disturbed you, I was on the Land Cruiser forum in the technical help section and nearly fell to sleep I was so bored, no one has been on there for ages. .... That would be because the technical details were all worked out at some point between Stone and Iron Age? No updates required. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nigel207 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Or they're so horrible to be in that no-one ever ventures out in one! No wonder they're allegedly so reliable. Quote 1958 Morris Minor towing 2012 Hobby Landhaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplecottage Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ah, nice to see there are still some Green Oval owners around. ... 1984 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobelcokid Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Stuck behind mercs stuck on frost For once i will agree with you that Mercs are practically useless when it comes to traction in FROST Ste Quote . ....One life, Don't waste it fixing LandRovers . Ford F350 SUPERDUTY Towing 640 Hobby @ 1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A11 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Nick - ha ha, but true Alfa Europe - shades of truth! Nigel207 - that's just mean! Even if maybe true. .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick J Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I also must agree, our Merc is useless in the snow. ... Quote Volvo XC60 & Hobby Premium 540efu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screenman Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 They fall over in the dry. http://www. lincolnshireecho. co. uk/Overturned-vehicle-blocking-road-Lincoln/story-26017122-detail/story. html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1041 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Well i left home on 27th Dec in thick frost, encountered 3 in snow in Northern France, just selected 3rd with the tiptronic, never had a problem !! Guess its how you drive em, and having the van on the back probably helped, but no 4x4 reqd specially down here in Sunny Spain, 21 degrees today!! Back to the sunbed then!! Phil. 1 Quote Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. Mine : Mercedes GLC 250d AMG, Lunar Clubman SB, Rockwood 5th Wheel Trailer, La Manga Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravanner1 Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 how long can you keep hop this charade Phil? lol Quote If I'd have known I was going to be this thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1041 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 how long can you keep hop this charade Phil? lol What??? No charade i am in southern Spain and i got here just as described!! Get yerself a Merc mate and then stop worrying!!!!! Phil. 1 Quote Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. Mine : Mercedes GLC 250d AMG, Lunar Clubman SB, Rockwood 5th Wheel Trailer, La Manga Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWOMW Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Greetings from Nerja - only 16 degrees today, but lovely and sunny. A lot better than northern Spain although it was a beautiful winter wonderland. Haven't brought the van on this trip cos we are staying in a hotel, and also there was the worry about driving 1500 miles door to door in an unreliable green oval - yeah right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1041 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Greetings from Nerja - only 16 degrees today, but lovely and sunny. A lot better than northern Spain although it was a beautiful winter wonderland. Haven't brought the van on this trip cos we are staying in a hotel, and also there was the worry about driving 1500 miles door to door in an unreliable green oval - yeah right Yeh understandable! Then of course, theres the cost ie rubbish mpg too!! :P Phil. Edited February 13, 2015 by phil1041 1 Quote Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. Mine : Mercedes GLC 250d AMG, Lunar Clubman SB, Rockwood 5th Wheel Trailer, La Manga Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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