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Having bought firstly the right caravan for our family of three, then totally the wrong caravan for our family of four, I think I know what our next van needs - but the shortlist that I've identified doesn't match this year's budget as all the vans on there are too new for my pocket. That's not too big a problem as I can live with the wrong van for another year, but I'm surprised I've found no older vans for the list and wonder if I've missed some obvious candidates?

 

The criteria are

MTPLM 5000 or below

Single axle

Fixed double bunk (not triple) pref with windows

Separate shower, not wetroom

Front seating that can be used as two adult singles

 

And my shortlist says

 

Bailey Olympus 540/5

Elddis Avante 554

Bailey Pegasus II Ancona - no, triple bunks :-(

Sterling Europa 565

2005 sprite musketeer - but toilet beyond shower, not separate and ?no window for bottom bunk

Swift challenger sport/sterling Eccles sport 565

Swift charisma 565 2011 onwards for double bunks not triple

 

All suggestions of what I'm missing will be very welcome!!

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. .....MTPLM 5000 or below. ....

Might need correcting WR?

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You could be right there - thanks griff! That's early morning posting with one arm round a grumpy toddler - could I try for MTPLM of 1500kg or below as I do not drive a tank!

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5000KG! I did wonder what you were towing it with, lol. :D

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Bailey Pegasus 534 mk1 front seats for childrens singles beds

will struggle to find front seat to be used for adult singles

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Go for the Ancona (triple bunk version) the third bunk when not in use becomes a den. Kids store and play with all their junk and when it's bed time there's little tidying up of beds to do :-) How ever it does become a problem when the oldest (now 16) decides it's either too cold or wet for his tent and wants to be in the Van. Then there's lots of tidying up before bed.

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A twin lounge layout might be an option for you (similar to suandjas post)?

 

Our Lunar Lexon TL has 4 x 6ft singles but doesn't meet your criteria of 1500kg (1680kg) and is a twin axle. Only mentioning as "something similar" layout might be worthwhile as opposed to bunks as kids do get bigger! :)

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Thank you all for your thoughts!

 

A twin lounge layout might be an option for you (similar to suandjas post)?

 

Our Lunar Lexon TL has 4 x 6ft singles but doesn't meet your criteria of 1500kg (1680kg) and is a twin axle. Only mentioning as "something similar" layout might be worthwhile as opposed to bunks as kids do get bigger! :)

 

I had started to ponder on single beds as an option last night (I'd seen a twin bed Swift 510 which had sparked the thought) but wondered whether we might feel we'd lost space as a consequence. Will go have a look again at that layout now and see what comes up at what weight. We're now towing with an S-Max and don't want to go much over 90% (though I have seen them pulling twin axle vans before). I definitely don't want a rear dinette - we have a boy and a girl so they'll not share a double for long, and most of the overbed bunks have restricted headroom.

 

Go for the Ancona (triple bunk version) the third bunk when not in use becomes a den. Kids store and play with all their junk and when it's bed time there's little tidying up of beds to do :-) How ever it does become a problem when the oldest (now 16) decides it's either too cold or wet for his tent and wants to be in the Van. Then there's lots of tidying up before bed.

 

I had originally thought when I saw it combined bunks and that fab bathroom that the Ancona had ticked all our boxes, but that triple bunk looked a bit too claustrophobic to me (not enough headspace) and I wasn't sure that the children would be happy in it for long. I perhaps need to have a good look at it again as I didn't think it was possible for our 7 year old to sit up and read in it, which is her favourite thing to do in her current bunk. . I do agree about the den potential of that bottom bunk though :lol:

 

Bailey Pegasus 534 mk1 front seats for childrens singles beds

will struggle to find front seat to be used for adult singles

 

Fortunately, we've both been OK on our front seat singles in both vans so far, no doubt helped by the fact that neither of us are on the tall side :-) Whilst I do love the idea of having a fixed bed, I love "grown up time" sitting up and drinking wine once the children are in bed even more :D We don't usually put up an awning for a short weekend away, so would end up retreating to bed ourselves for lack of anywhere else to sit - and although I'd probably benefit from sharing a bedtime with our two year old (at least in terms of reduced wine consumption!), it's probably not the best idea long term. Just out of curiosity, where do people with fixed beds sit in the evenings, if the children are asleep in the front? Is everyone less lazy than us about putting up the awning on a short stay?

 

All suggestions welcome, please!

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"Just out of curiosity, where do people with fixed beds sit in the evenings, if the children are asleep in the front?"

 

Eh, wine + double bed + kids asleep. C'mon, even we won't believe your that naive!!! :blush::P

 

How's that for a suggestion?

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"Just out of curiosity, where do people with fixed beds sit in the evenings, if the children are asleep in the front?"

 

Eh, wine + double bed + kids asleep. C'mon, even we won't believe your that naive!!! :blush::P

 

How's that for a suggestion?

 

:D What, and risk spilling my wine and dropping my peanuts - no ta :D

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Just out of curiosity, where do people with fixed beds sit in the evenings, if the children are asleep in the front? Is everyone less lazy than us about putting up the awning on a short stay?

 

All suggestions welcome, please!

 

We just have the one 22 month old toddler (or tornado) and a fixed bed tourer. The tornado gets the full size double bed while we get the less comfy front lounge (especially as we don't ususally drop the chest of drawers to the floor for extra width!). This actually worked really well when she was really young as we were able to fence her into the bed (biggest cot ever) and up til 6 months one of us might have to spend time with her (it's still really good for bed time stories!). We hardly ever put the awning up (most of our trips have been outside of summer anyway).

 

We are now looking at getting a layout similar to what you seek, though in no rush. The assumption is that she will love bunks once old enough, and we will get extra space. We toyed with idea of a middle dinette that converts to a bunk, and a fixed fixed double bed to the rear (Baliey Orion, Adria Adora, Sprite Quattro) but we are finally accepting that we may not get our fixed double as that layout would put the little one too close to us once she's asleep.

 

Maybe consider these, though depends how long those front singles need to be I guess):

The Sprite Major 6 (TD most likely)

Swift Freestyle 6

ADRIA ALTEA SPORTLINE DK

Eldis Avante 576

Swift Corniche 18/6 (there is a 2011 one on ebay that has tranvers twin bunks as opposed to a 2012 one on autotrader with longitudinal triple bunks!)

 

http://www. ebay. co. uk/itm/2013-REGISTERED-2011-MODEL-SWIFT-CORNICHE-18-6-6-BERTH-CARAVAN-/111293177513?pt=UK_Campers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item19e9971ea9#ht_1471wt_1399

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Just out of curiosity, where do people with fixed beds sit in the evenings, if the children are asleep in the front? Is everyone less lazy than us about putting up the awning on a short stay?

 

All suggestions welcome, please!

 

Children . ... heaven forbid . ..... we just have a sofa each . .... with a dog curled up . ....

 

. .... thence to bed . ....

 

Cheers

 

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We have had a fixed bunk along back of van before but no separate shower, a twin axle that we could use as 4 singles two up front and two up back (spectrum 620) but this was too big and heavy. The layout we opted for in the end was a lunar lexon ds (1450kg) kids use the single's at front and we make the rear double up at night for us. its been the best layout that suits us we have found.

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We have a Bailey Bretagne, Series 6 with twin transverse bunks and convertible side dinette, as opposed to the Series 7 with triple side bunks and dinette.

 

MTPLM of 1420kg,

single axle,

windows to both rear bunks,

front seats can be used as 2 adult singles but we tend to make up as a double,

wetroom rather than separate shower, but with 2 kids (age 14 and 10) we tend not to use the van anyway.

 

There are other makes of similar layout from around the same era (2007-8) but I don't recall names etc, but CaravanFinder. co. uk should help.

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Go for the Ancona (triple bunk version) the third bunk when not in use becomes a den. Kids store and play with all their junk and when it's bed time there's little tidying up of beds to do :-) How ever it does become a problem when the oldest (now 16) decides it's either too cold or wet for his tent and wants to be in the Van. Then there's lots of tidying up before bed.

Our problem was our 16 year old outgrew the bunks hes already 6"3 so had to sell our ACe award and got the Verona so when its too wet for him in his tent he sleeps at the front with it made up to oversize double him at one side and his little sister at the other although she goes in the tent if he doesnt want to

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We have just bought older lunar ultima. Teenager has larger double at rear ( converted from dinette, 8 year old has bunk across top of it) she sits on that too. Can screen that area off.

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Thank you all again. After a week of deliberating, the answer is that I need to change my requirements (or redefine my concept of caravaning providing a cheaper holiday option for our family!).

 

I think it's the fixed bunk element that will have to go, in favour of an end dinette - and the Lunar Ultima DS looks like the best match. All suggestions of more with this layout and the all-important separate shower and long single-bed length front seats welcome!

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