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Just thinking of getting a new van, down to valencia or Barcelona. I just don't know which one to go for.

 

Can anyone help, maybe if you have one of these yourself you could point me in the right direction

 

Thanks

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Hi

 

Just thinking of getting a new van, down to valencia or Barcelona. I just don't know which one to go for.

 

Can anyone help, maybe if you have one of these yourself you could point me in the right direction

 

Thanks

I bought a Madrid a couple of weeks ago and although the layout is obviously different there are many similarities to the vans you are considering. I have had significant teething problems with it and if you have a look on some of the other threads on here there are common themes especially with shower leaks. I love the van and am in fact going away tonight and really looking forward to it so I'm not trying to put you off but its worth reading up so you are prepared.

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Thanks Adam,

 

Twin or single is really my question? Any ideas?

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Thanks Adam,

 

Twin or single is really my question? Any ideas?

My preference when looking at the Unicorn was for single axle but this is purely down to my towcar and the van weights. I didnt really conside the Vans you are looking at as I dont like fixed beds. Saying that though they both looked good when I looked around them. If I was choosing between the two then if I could safely tow the twin axle then thats the one I would get. Extra space is always welcome!

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Twin axle - 2 motor movers, 2 locks, levelling and locking a nightmare, heavier, more room as bigger, more stable to tow, less manoeurvrable etc. ....

Single axle - 1 motor mover, 1 lock, easier to level and lock, lighter, smaller less room, less stable to tow, more manoeuvrable etc. .....

 

What is important to you ?

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2007 Bailey Series 5 Senator Arizona (4 berth, rear bathroom, side dinette) towed by a 57 Kia Sorento XS Auto with Kumho KL17 tyres, Reich Mover, Kampa Rally 390, Caravan Tyres : GT Radial Maxmiler CX 185/80 R14 102R.

 

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Well said Shirl - we can't tell Mikaroony which is best, but we can give the facts, making his decision easier. Personally, whilst I love the extra space offered by the twin axles, we would never consider one due to the practicalities associated with larger vans (as you've stated above). We also like to tour abroad and some sites won't accept twin axles, so that may help with the decision!

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We got a Valencia cos can't get a twin axle up our drive. The big difference between the two is the kitchen. Barcelona has a big fridge with separate freezer and more work surface in the kitchen. If longer settees at the front and the bigger kitchen are important (Valencia settees are fine but not long enough to sleep on as singles) go for Barcelona. Otherwise avoid twin axle hassles and go for Valencia.

 

If I were buying again I'd actually go for the Cadiz as I find it a pain having one climb over the other for the toilet. Apart from that we're delighted with the van, a nice place to be.

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Hi

 

I had exactly the same dilemma.

 

My concern was the towcar, in the end I went for the Barcelona, no regrets.

We do not have a motor mover, the only way we manouver the unit is with the car so if I can't push it with the car it's not going there.

When I first moved to a twin axle I had concerns on levelling as we tend to rally and often on sloping fields. This has been no more of an isssue that with a single axle.

A previous poster has mentioned refusal of site in France, I have had this happen only once at a municipal. You do have to be careful as some French sites are rather tight and restrict lengh in high season. We usually travel using ACSI and an email ahead lets me know if we will be welcomed.

Twin wheel locks are a bit more of an issue, I woudn't try to put them on away from home, the only successful way of doing it is by jacking. I do this at home on a concrete drive but woudn't attempt this on a sloping grass field. I use a trolly jack and it takes less time at home than fitting the security posts we used to have. You will find the CC insurance only requires the alarm, tracker and a hitch lock. If I did use the wheelclamps I could claim a further discount.

To me moving from a Senator series 6, space for an onboard tank was important, the space in the kitchen cupboard was ideal as it is over the axle.(pictures elsewhere on this site)

 

Twins are easier to reverse in my opinion and are no less manouverable than a single axle unless you mean by pushing.

 

The extra space is great, and the length of the front bunks.

 

You don't say what you tow with but it will need to be heavy, I have had the max weight upgrade to 1800kg which gives an acceptable loading limit.

 

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Choosing a caravan is all about compromise, I had a twin axle Sterling Europa 620 for 4 years, great van, loads of space, towed brilliantly with my Disco and due to where it was stored I became an expert at reversing it around farm equipment and buildings. However its size did lead me to have one or two scrapes as it was so long, I always went on to Google maps and checked out entrances to sites, access roads etc. Another issue, is you do need a decent sized tow car, I had a Disco 3 fantastic tow car but MPG was poor with or without the van on the back. When anything went wrong (there are always niggles as it is a Landrover) it was expensive to fix. So if you have an unlimited budget and are prepared to forsake getting your onto some sites then you cant beat a twin axle.

Now to reality, got a new job last year that came with a company car, biggest car I could get with my lease limit, Ford Kuga, so not heavy enough for the twin axle. So time to get rid of the Disco and also the Sterling. So looked at various layouts on single axles and decided to go for an island bed layout with the Vigo, the compromise is front beds cannot be used as singles and the amount of kitchen worktop is poor. The one upside for the kitchen in the Vigo is the fridge is the same as what you get in the twin axle variants.

So your tow car dictates the size of van, then its down to the layout that best suits your needs, hence why there are so many layouts offered by the manufacturers, all the best with your decisions.

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We have ordered the Barcelona;

 

My wife liked the larger kitchen and we both like the option of long settee berths to have the afternoon snooze on.

Twin or single axle wasn't a concern, we have plenty of room at home to manouver and the van will live in a bay of our impliment shed and has easy reversing access. We used to have a motor home in excess of 7 meters and never had a problem finding easy access to any sites we visited so dont invisage having a problem towing the van and have never seen a restiction on size of van on a site over here. We have two children 7 & 8 so room was important as was seperate beds for them to sleep on, we tend to hit the sack about the same time they do when on holiday or sit outside under the sun awning putting the world to rights as you do.

 

As other have suggested make note of all the niggles others have experienced and take them with you to the dealer and have them double check these points before you take delivery (we will be doing this today infact).

 

During our seach for a van it becomes quickly obvious all manufacturers cover all the layout options and sizes so for us it came down 'feel' of the van and our perception of the quality (all will tell you there's is the best because. ....) verses the amount of money we had to spend. We chose the Bailey because it ticked all our boxes in relation to layout and the feel plus we thought this big ***** looked 'smart as' and we would feel proud owning and using such a van.

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They are equal in the competition then haha

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