bessacarr425 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Having received my CCC mag this morning, it is clear that the new variable pricing structure is not universally popular. As the C&CC wisely did not go down the route of attaching a forum to it's website, letters to the magazine and direct communication with the C&CC head office is the only way for customers to communicate their concerns. As a customer of both the C&CC and the CC, in my opinion, both organisations are going down the route of overburdening bureaucracy, ridiculous rules and ignoring the interests of it's customers. I use the term customers as, IMO the idea that those two leisure industry businesses are run for anything other than pure commercial interests rules out the idea of any kind of "club" I would not be surprised if sometime during the next decade, a rival organisation with a simple "no frills" structure, geared to outdoor activities and touring will appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hi i have only been a member of the ccc for about 7 years and i must confess there is nothing in the mag that interest me or have realy got any use of campsites being a oap nor realy got any consessions so realy i pay the fee purely because i am in the rac and get the arrival cover otherwise i would not bother with the club i hope i have not wandered off the subject take this opertunity to wish everyone a merry christmas and a new year Quote Coachman festival 580-4 -Freelander 1 TD4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWanderingLancastrian Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Having received my CCC mag this morning, it is clear that the new variable pricing structure is not universally popular. As the C&CC wisely did not go down the route of attaching a forum to it's website, letters to the magazine and direct communication with the C&CC head office is the only way for customers to communicate their concerns. As a customer of both the C&CC and the CC, in my opinion, both organisations are going down the route of overburdening bureaucracy, ridiculous rules and ignoring the interests of it's customers. I use the term customers as, IMO the idea that those two leisure industry businesses are run for anything other than pure commercial interests rules out the idea of any kind of "club" I would not be surprised if sometime during the next decade, a rival organisation with a simple "no frills" structure, geared to outdoor activities and touring will appear. Hi bessaccar. There is certainly one company that is very very much outdoor minded the are GO OUTDOOR. I wonder if it might be on their agenda? Just about everything else is. There is one thing for certain,I am certainly reviewing my renewals this time around,BOTH OF THEM. Edited December 17, 2013 by TheTravellingRooster Quote Life in general can be a journey of chance with some winners and sadly some losers. Your outfit can never be left to chance. A short-while carrying out essential checks can ensure a long-time of happy & safe caravanning for all concerned. Ignorance can often be bliss but is certainly not an excuse and when continually disregarded they can be totally disastrous for oneself and the innocent parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrypartridge Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 As a customer of both the C&CC and the CC, in my opinion, both organisations are going down the route of overburdening bureaucracy, ridiculous rules and ignoring the interests of it's customers. I use the term customers as, IMO the idea that those two leisure industry businesses are run for anything other than pure commercial interests rules out the idea of any kind of "club" Totally agree. Hi i have only been a member of the ccc for about 7 years and i must confess there is nothing in the mag that interest me or have realy got any use of campsites being a oap nor realy got any consessions so realy i pay the fee purely because i am in the rac and get the arrival cover otherwise i would not bother with the club The magazine is unbelievably poor: it makes the CC one look quality when it too is pretty pathetic. If you want breakdown surely you'd do better with the CC and its Mayday service. RAC Arrival seems poor to me and I bet if you ring them up and say you are leaving the Club they will pricematch you anyway. Do you not use CLs? That's the only reason I'm in the so-called clubs. Quote Isuzu D Max pulling Bailey Unicorn 2 Valencia Bailey Autograph 740 MH: Isuzu for sale LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyMark Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This is our first year. We went with the C&CC, ill not go into reasons why. I still find the mags interesting, for now at least. But we've not yet used their services or sites. We hope to rally next year however this year we were put off sites due to getting our heads around their pricing, which has now changed just as I was starting to understand it. A no frills straight forward system would certainly persuade people. Quote Just beginning our adventure. 95% of my time on CT I use my phone. As a result correct spelling and grammer will be used sparingly. This is due to fat fingers. Please don't let it bother you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagan Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) I have stopped my membership of the c&cc because I do not use their sites as a majority of them need a lot of upgrading and this new pricing structure does not bode well. I wonder where the money goes from members fees and the money made from the sites as it does not appear to have been spent on the majority of the sites. IMO. I also am beginning to wonder about the CC with the cost of site fees and the membership fee as well. At least it appears that more money is invested in the CC site holdings. However I wonder at times how it costs such a lot of money to revamp a toilet block because if what I hear they have spent of some sites for this purpose is correct I would have thought they could have built 1/2 a housing estate for the same money Edited December 17, 2013 by pagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTQ Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 IMO the HQ could not organise a drinking session in a brewery, but the solid core of volunteers, my better half included over the years, organise some excellent rallies and THS. We will not be even bothering to fathom out the main sites pricing structure, a brief look left us feeling this time they really have lost the plot. However our fees are well worth it for the above facet of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ern Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 We pay annual membership fees to both clubs. We have to be members of the C&CC in order to use their winter sites in Europe (sometimes hard to avoid using them), and we also like to use the CC 5cl's. We have cancelled magazines from both clubs because they are just chocker block with advertisements and silly letters praising the club. We have insurance on a caravan and a motorhome with the CC, but I think this could easily be replaced. So, I think we are like a lot of members of both clubs - we don't like it, but cannot easily avoid it. Quote Ern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klyne Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 They may not have a forum but their Facebook Page had a lot of adverse comments on it when it was announced. I suppose the proof of the pudding will be whether they get more revenue in 2014. They badly need it after the debacle of their Forest Holidays venture. David Quote David - Milton Keynes Bailey Alliance 66-2 Motorhome for holidays and a Kia Venga for home. Caravan Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandman Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) The pricing structures of both the CC and the C&CC do seem to be a bit over-complicated, but then again how else can they try to even out demand across their site networks? Edited January 9, 2014 by Highlandman Quote We fight not for glory, nor for wealth nor honours . .. but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrenb Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 With there new price structure, I don't think the C and CC will be worried about the ability to even out demand, I think they may be more worried about actually having demand. Most area's of the country now private sites event 5 star sites are cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strathaven dynamo Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 re caravan and camping new pricing structure . as a member of both clubs booked 2 weeks in july to cheddar somerset. caravan club price £277 caravan camping club price £345 . caravan club site gets booking and I wont be renewing my membership with the caravan and camping club . I have looked at their prices for 2014 and they are far more expensive than the caravan club sites . best regards dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevonheronlake Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 re caravan and camping new pricing structure . as a member of both clubs booked 2 weeks in july to cheddar somerset. caravan club price £277 caravan camping club price £345 . caravan club site gets booking and I wont be renewing my membership with the caravan and camping club . I have looked at their prices for 2014 and they are far more expensive than the caravan club sites . best regards dave Hi we spent last august down in somerset,devon and cornwall and our site fees were a lot less than either of the avove prices,we are members of both clubs but use the 5 van sites and quite a lot now have shower blocks,but we use our van facilties. Regards nev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrypartridge Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 We pay annual membership fees to both clubs. We have to be members of the C&CC in order to use their winter sites in Europe (sometimes hard to avoid using them), and we also like to use the CC 5cl's. We have cancelled magazines from both clubs because they are just chocker block with advertisements and silly letters praising the club. We have insurance on a caravan and a motorhome with the CC, but I think this could easily be replaced. So, I think we are like a lot of members of both clubs - we don't like it, but cannot easily avoid it. I'm in both clubs purely for the CLs which we love. I didn't know you could stop the magazines. The Caravan Club one is occassionally of some small interest but the C and CC one is an embarassment. They should sack the editor and start again. Quote Isuzu D Max pulling Bailey Unicorn 2 Valencia Bailey Autograph 740 MH: Isuzu for sale LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screenman Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I would imagine most clubs need to be run like a business to carry on existing. I do have a clue about the pricing structure as I do not use larger style sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david 1220 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm in both clubs purely for the CLs which we love. I didn't know you could stop the magazines. The Caravan Club one is occassionally of some small interest but the C and CC one is an embarassment. They should sack the editor and start again. If you stop the magazine do you get a reduction in membership fees ? ( some hope ! ) Quote Skoda Scout 4x4 pulling a coachman Amara 520/4 at 93%---- when full! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david 1220 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Hi, There is already alternatives,-- one make clubs and local clubs ( e. g. The wirral squirrels ) true they don't have all the "bells& whistles" on the sites nor are they perhaps where you want them when you want them -- but the already exist. david Quote Skoda Scout 4x4 pulling a coachman Amara 520/4 at 93%---- when full! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison01326 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) IMO the HQ could not organise a drinking session in a brewery, but the solid core of volunteers, my better half included over the years, organise some excellent rallies and THS. We will not be even bothering to fathom out the main sites pricing structure, a brief look left us feeling this time they really have lost the plot. However our fees are well worth it for the above facet of the club. We have been members of the C&CC for 6 years now and I don't know what some of you expect from either the Club or the magazine. Yes, there are a lot of adverts, but I like the articles and the reviews on the various gadgets,and it doesn't take me long to read, but the C&CC aren't a publishing house, are they? They have to cater to everyone from tenters to caravanners, from mountaineers to folk dancers, and from cyclists to canoeists. There are many specialist sections within the club and whilst they probably get their own magazines as well (we do via the BCC) the magazine really does need to appeal to all types of camper and caravanner. We enjoy the Camping in the Forest sites, and the Temporary Holiday Site over Easter at Hendra Holiday park has now become an annual event for us. Two weeks at £9. 50 a night including electricity at a site we wouldn't stay on otherwise as we consider it overpriced. The volunteers who put in so much hard work so that we can enjoy a reasonably priced holiday (and more reasonably priced holidays if we had the time) are greatly appreciated by us. Lastly, I don't have a problem with the new pricing structure either, but I've already given my opinion on the matter elsewhere on this forum. They badly need it after the debacle of their Forest Holidays venture. What debacle? I must have missed that. Edited January 10, 2014 by alison01326 Quote The traveller sees what he sees, the tourist sees what he has come to see (GK Chesterton) There's no such thing as bad weather, only the wrong equipment (Alfred Wainwright) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Marron Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 re caravan and camping new pricing structure . as a member of both clubs booked 2 weeks in july to cheddar somerset. caravan club price £277 caravan camping club price £345 . caravan club site gets booking and I wont be renewing my membership with the caravan and camping club . I have looked at their prices for 2014 and they are far more expensive than the caravan club sites . best regards dave Cheddar C&CC site is privately owned and pays a fee to the C&CC to be flagged as one of their sites. It is the most expensive site in the C&CC stable and is always pretty much fully booked in the summer. It is very popular with visitors from mainland Europe and I can't see that changing much. Quote Has the revolution finally begun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John19 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We have been members of the C&CC for 6 years now and I don't know what some of you expect from either the Club or the magazine. Yes, there are a lot of adverts, but I like the articles and the reviews on the various gadgets,and it doesn't take me long to read, but the C&CC aren't a publishing house, are they? They have to cater to everyone from tenters to caravanners, from mountaineers to folk dancers, and from cyclists to canoeists. There are many specialist sections within the club and whilst they probably get their own magazines as well (we do via the BCC) the magazine really does need to appeal to all types of camper and caravanner. We enjoy the Camping in the Forest sites, and the Temporary Holiday Site over Easter at Hendra Holiday park has now become an annual event for us. Two weeks at £9. 50 a night including electricity at a site we wouldn't stay on otherwise as we consider it overpriced. The volunteers who put in so much hard work so that we can enjoy a reasonably priced holiday (and more reasonably priced holidays if we had the time) are greatly appreciated by us. Lastly, I don't have a problem with the new pricing structure either, but I've already given my opinion on the matter elsewhere on this forum. I'm not a big fan fan of the "good posting" smiley, but I am totally in agreement with Alison's post above. No problem with the pricing structure either. 4 nights at Teversal at the end of April for £46 (price to pay after discounts and concessions). What have I to complain about? John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_h Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I have booked a spring season break at CCC site at Moreton. I thought about going a few days before the spring season started, and looked at 11 nights from 21 March, 2 ACR adults in a caravan with awning, on hard standing with electric. This would cost £180. 00 or £16. 35 per night; and this is LOW season!! 11 nights in June for the same people/unit would cost almost £220!! The Caravan Club site at Crossways (just the other side of the railway) for the same June period would be £175 - even cheaper than CCC's low season. Come on club, don't let money-making ruin you; let's stay 'the Friendly Club' please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KontikiKid Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I've booked Boroughbridge and it is a lot cheaper than last year. I wanted Sheriff Hutton but that had gone up! I like Boroughbridge though so it's no great shakes. I wonder if the 30 day cancellation policy puts some folk off booking though. Russell Quote Online blog and travels, although sometimes there is a lack of travel due to work! It's an uncharted sea, it's an unopened door but you've got to reach out and you've got to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It is no wonder the C& CC will be loosing more members with there new price structure they are going down the same route as holiday companies if demand is high rip peoples off by putting the price up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxapparently Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I have found the CCC a far bit more expensive than the CC. I also hate the FQ, WZ, AB codes. I also hate the way the book is organised in sheets. My CCC membership thus is purely just to access two good CL's ive been recommended. But then they have never asked for my membership card. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Just done a comparison for 5 days in the lake in June Windermere C&CC £100, Park coppice C C £ 75. what a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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