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Have ordered a new Tiguan (3 months build time) but seems it only comes ( as optional extra ) with single electrics tow bar. I have read a few articles about a plug in adaption to twin electrics but am a little confused as some articles suggest you have to rewire one of the plugs. Could someone please clear up this confusion for me. Also are there any guys out there using the 6 speed 4wd Tiguan. I have checked the towing capacity and as long as I don't upgrade to heavier caravan then I should be fine.

 

This or next weekend I intend to prepare the caravan for winter storage any tips would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance Paul and Olive

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An even better option is to rewire the caravan with single electrics. Adapters are always a source of potential problems and should be avoided wherever possible.

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I tow with a Tiguan, 6apeed 140bhp diesel and it's great. If I was you I wouldn't bother ordering the car with a towbar, I'd get one fitted afterwards. I've got a westfalia removable one fitted to main. Cost 400 fully fitted with westfalia electrics which means that when you reverse, the parking sensors don't sound. You are paying a lot to have the VW one. For me, I don't miss anything as my caravan has trailer control and so not having the VW trailer control doesn't bother me. The tug pulls really well, I'm sure you will love it.

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I had the same situation some years ago, just replace the caravan plug for a 13 pin.

 

Plugs are available now with two cable entries, made for the job.

 

I tried the adaptor route, its a waste of time imo, mine had undersized wires when I checked the connections, its resting somewhere in the shed gathering dust, got it in with the tow bar fitting deal at the time.

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I have the same problem.

Thought about the following:

Adaptor with wires; Too much wiring to get in the way.

Rewire the van with 13 core wire.

Replace twin plugs with a single one with two entries. This is what I have gone for. Have'nt yet done it so don't know how easy it is to get two wires into one plug.

 

Just one word of warning. Factory fit towbars often come with a 13 pin socket but no wiring for 12v supply to van battery and fridge which is extra. I am pretty sure that that is the case for VW so check how towbar will be wired. My Honda goes back next week to have the additional wiring done.

 

I went for a factory one. (Actually fitted by dealer) That way if there are any problems it's the dealers responsibility. NO arguments. I could have got it done cheaper elsewhere but when you are spending over £20k the extra was not a great deal.

 

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Just a thought too, you need to check with VW that the electrics will support a caravan. Sounds silly but I am sure I read on a Tiguan forum that it's wired for a trailer but not for the complete electrics of a caravan. Now, this may well have changed since I looked last but it's worth checking with VW to be sure. I had to tow a friends van recently who had twin electrics, they had the two into one adapter but I had to fit a funny contraption costing a tenner I to my socket before they could plug in the electrics. Theirs was an old van and the Tiguan took a dislike to it. . The dash lit up with all manner of trailer warnings regarding lights not working etc. ... When my friend checked the lights on her van, she was mortified that the Tiguan had shown her up! Needed quite a few bulbs before I took it anywhere! Ha ha!!

I have the same problem.

Thought about the following:

Adaptor with wires; Too much wiring to get in the way.

Rewire the van with 13 core wire.

Replace twin plugs with a single one with two entries. This is what I have gone for. Have'nt yet done it so don't know how easy it is to get two wires into one plug.

 

Just one word of warning. Factory fit towbars often come with a 13 pin socket but no wiring for 12v supply to van battery and fridge which is extra. I am pretty sure that that is the case for VW so check how towbar will be wired. My Honda goes back next week to have the additional wiring done.

 

I went for a factory one. (Actually fitted by dealer) That way if there are any problems it's the dealers responsibility. NO arguments. I could have got it done cheaper elsewhere but when you are spending over £20k the extra was not a great deal.

 

poolebob

Just read your post, I'm not going mad then, I thought the electrics couldn't completely support a caravan. ..

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When the term 'single' electrics is mentioned I would normally think that it has just the one 7N plug (like a horse box), not both the 'normal' 7N and the 'supplementary' 7S plug. The 7S plug is needed to power your fridge and charge your caravan's battery, and your reverse lights? (I think that's it, I may be wrong).

 

The single 13 pin plug replaces the two 7N and 7S plugs and is a much better system altogether. There can be a bit of confusion. The two cables can go into the one 13 pin plug/socket easily without rewiring anything. Both our car and caravan are like this.

 

As suggested above, I would go to a specialist tow bar fitter once you have got the car and get a 13 pin plug fitted and also get one fitted on the caravan. We paid way over the top for a Kia dealer fitted tow bar and they didn't really know what they were up to and said they were fitting a 13 pin plug when all they did was fit the two 7N and 7S plugs and give us an adaptor ! :rolleyes:

 

Our towbar chappy comes to the house, does it on the drive and tests that the car and the caravan both work.

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Paulnolive, I have ordered and am waiting for a Touareg to be built and have looked into this in some detail. As has been said already the VW supplied towbar will not be fully wired to power the fridge or stability control on your caravan and I also dont think it will charge the battery in the caravan while travelling. To enable this you will need an additional VW 3 pin wiring kit which costs around £50 (on Touareg anyway so guess similar for Tiguan) however, thats the easy part, it then has to be wired into the car which necessitates travelling from back to the front of the car and much trim removal is involved inside the car. Total cost likely to be around £350. From my experience this is a job best left to the dealer as if not and the car or the towbar develop a fault, the dealer could blame the towbar fitter or the towbar fitter could blame the dealer anjd you could be stuck in the middle between a rock and a hard place so best kept one and the same imho. Also as someone else has said, on top of the car it is a small price to pay for total peace of mind.

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I had the same situation some years ago, just replace the caravan plug for a 13 pin.

 

Plugs are available now with two cable entries, made for the job.

 

I tried the adaptor route, its a waste of time imo, mine had undersized wires when I checked the connections, its resting somewhere in the shed gathering dust, got it in with the tow bar fitting deal at the time.

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You need to check with the dealer what their term single electrics actually means as I find some quote single electrics meaning 7 pin socket and some quote single electric for a 13 pin socket.

 

Changing the caravan to a 13 pin and not using a adapter will reduce connection problems by eliminating 27 extra connections.

 

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Paul

won't you be having the fancy factory fit electric bar?
Or am I confusing your car with another.

I don't normally use the dealer route due to price, but using the dealer route will have you fully covered if you have any problems.

Either way insist on the 13 pin socket being fully wired to include fridge cooling and battery/ATC power requirements.
With my bar fitted last July I insisted on two 3mm cables being run for the fridge and charger/ATC.

If you get this in writing the dealer will have to get it sorted for you.

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When I bought the L200 earlier this year, I made the point of telling the salesman that it was going to be used (mainly) for towing our caravan. When I took it for a test drive, the salesman came with me. I made a point of driving over to the storage site and showed him the caravan and the 13 pin plug on the caravan. I told him that it would be required to power the caravan and all its accessories. I also told him that I wanted the same type of socket that was already on my Outlander which was being part-exed so he had something to refer to.

When I picked it up, guess what was on there. A bog standard 7 pin socket!! I spoke to the fitter who said, "tell ME what you want and I'll make sure that it's done right". Picked it up the following day and all was fine and it does everything it should, battery charging, fridge, reversing lights and rear fog lights.

If you want a proper job done, talk to the workers, THEY know what you are talking about.

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I bought a 2012 Tiguan second hand last year which had no tow bar. I then contacted the local VW dealer about a tow bar. They quoted over £1000. After I got over the shock, I decided to go ahead anyway as then it would be done correctly and the coding done properly so that the reversing sensors would be disabled when towing etc. .. I phoned up to book it in and told them I needed the full 13 pin wiring done to power the fridge etc. To cut a long story short they refused to do it and said the extra wiring was not supported for my vehicle! I also asked if I got the tow bar fitted elsewhere would they do the coding, but they refused that as well.

 

In the end I went to Indespension for the tow bar ~ £400 and they arranged with a local VW specialist to do the coding. It was a bit of faffing about, but got done in the end.

 

As an aside I also wanted to get cruise control fitted. The VW dealer said that was not possible either! I went to a specialist and got it fitted with original VW parts in less than an hour and for a good price.

 

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I have just had a new Skoda Yeti ( also VAG group) with the factory fitted tow bar cost £400. To have the same Westfalia tow bar fitted at dealer price was over £600 The wiring comes with a 13 pin socket fitted and all coding done The ATC charger and fridge all work OK. When I put the car into reverse a picture of a tow bar comes up on the display screen just to remind me that there is a caravan on the back

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I happen to have a Tiguan brochure in front of me and for the factory fit towbar ( swivelling ) it states :-

 

"Manually swivelling towbar. With 13-pin connection and 12 electrified poles providing vehicle lighting plus additional power supply for caravan auxiliary battery charger,internal trailer lighting and fridge"

 

Cost:- £660

 

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That's how I remember it when considering the tow bar option for my Tiguan last year, Tandem Man. In the end I chose some other options within my company car allowance limit and paid to have a fixed tow bar fitted later by an independent fitter.

 

Cost of fitting including fully wired single 13 pin connector was around £360 if I remember correctly. The chap who did the work fits tow bars for the local VW dealership and used their kit to re-program the car.

 

As you say Paul, see what the dealer says and if possible get confirmation in writing. Then if it arrives without being fully wired you can push for it to be sorted at the dealer's expense.

 

 

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When we just ordered a xtrail we have had to get an additional power pack for the 13 pin wire-ring kit for the caravan this was an extra £40 so the total cost will be £400. 66p for tow bar 13 pin elec's and extra rear number plate from our nissan main dealer, so wouldn't be much cheaper getting it done elsewhere. But this was by checking prices with nissan GB before we ordered car so when we ordered at show room they wanted £560 until i gave them the price of parts from nissan GB which then then said sorry you are correct so it saved us £160.

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Have ordered a new Tiguan (3 months build time) but seems it only comes ( as optional extra ) with single electrics tow bar. I have read a few articles about a plug in adaption to twin electrics but am a little confused as some articles suggest you have to rewire one of the plugs. Could someone please clear up this confusion for me. Also are there any guys out there using the 6 speed 4wd Tiguan. I have checked the towing capacity and as long as I don't upgrade to heavier caravan then I should be fine.

 

This or next weekend I intend to prepare the caravan for winter storage any tips would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance Paul and Olive

 

Get the dealer to confirm in writing (on the order form is OK) that the 13 pin electrics will be wired to fully comply with ISO 11446.

 

I did this on my previous BMW, so when it came with the factory fitted towbar and I found some of the pins were not wired, I had a comeback as they had confirmed on the order it would fully comply with ISO11446, which means it should be fully wired.

It cost the dealer £200 for the wiring loom and a 1/2 days labour to remove the bumper etc to fit it.

 

The attached PDF is courtesy of Sargent Electrical Systems ISO11446_Data. pdf

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I have just bought a Tiguan 2. 0 tdi 140ps. And as part of the deal I got the dealer to include the Tow bar in the price.

I think the tow bar is made by Thule as they left the fitting instructions in the boot.

The wiring is a bit of a problem. I asked for the "as factory" wiring. This should have 12 out of the 13 pins wired. However VW have made some changes to the electrics on late cars and the wiring kit didn't come with the full wiring. After a good week of hunting around the dealer got hold of what was needed to make the fridge work. But it didn't! Loads of head scratching by the master techs and chatting to VW they got hold of the right towing module so it would talk to the cars CAN bus and the fridge worked.

The big benefit of the VW wiring is the side light and brake light monitor works for both car and caravan. Also the adaption to the ECU software allows the EBD, ESP and ABS to take the caravan imposed load in consideration.

As for the car, it is the best one I've had. Great daily driver and 45mpg. With the 1300kg tin tent on the back it is a joy, 28-30 mpg at 60 mph. The first gear is really low ratio and both saves the clutch and makes hill starts easy. Sixth gear is very tall and I found towing at 55mph meant the engine wasn't revving high enough to provide enough torque on motorway inclines. However wind it up to 60mph and all but the steepest can be tackled to top gear. Nice Volkswagen build quality and they have just upgraded the whole range. The current Match is now like the old SE with F&R parking sensors, park assist, satnav, automatic climate control and better seats.

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Took delivery of a Tiguan 177 R Line on 23rd Dec. Went for the factory fitted bracket, the brochure clearly states it has all the neccessary feeds.

 

So far haven't towed with it, will be heading off tomorrow lunchtime for our first trip of the year, but have tried the electrics. Power for the Atc, cut out for fog lights and reverse sensors all in place. The fridge appeared to be getting power too.

 

Will update tomorrow if there is anything amiss when we tow 'for real' so to speak!

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No issues with the electrics . .. towed well too.

2018 Swift Elegance 580  towed by a 2018 Volvo XC60 D5 Power Pulse R Design

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I happen to have a Tiguan brochure in front of me and for the factory fit towbar ( swivelling ) it states :-

 

"Manually swivelling towbar. With 13-pin connection and 12 electrified poles providing vehicle lighting plus additional power supply for caravan auxiliary battery charger,internal trailer lighting and fridge"

 

Cost:- £660

 

I have just order a new VW Passat Estate 2. 0TDI 140 PS Executive and as it's a company car I have no option to have the electric swivelling towbar and the specification is as Tandem Man states above. I just need to find out who can convert my two sockets 12N & 12S to the one socket! In the meantime it looks like I will need an adaptor.

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