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I'm thinking about getting the above vehicle to tow our caravan. My wife will drive it when not towing but I will drive it when it is towing our caravan. We tow with our VW Golf at present which is Automatic and it's great but I was told by a friend to get a manual version of the above vehicle. Is anyone towing with a Discovery 2? Any input welcome.

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I have towed with a Disco 2 TD5 for 13 years.

There is enough going on without having to change gears. I'd recomend the Auto.

 

David

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Manual everytime.

Im back to motorhoming with a scooter on the back again.

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Absolutely has to be the Automatic!

With the auto you will have effortless driving, enabling you to concentrate on everything else going on around you!

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A friend of mine visited over the weekend with a new to him Disco. In chatting he mentioned it was an automatic which he'd had recommended to him by several owners. Their main reason was that it meant no dual mass flywheel which can be an Achilles heel on manuals.

The way he put it was that he'd rather spend a few bob on extra fuel than an awful lot on rebuilding the transmission.

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A friend of mine visited over the weekend with a new to him Disco. In chatting he mentioned it was an automatic which he'd had recommended to him by several owners. Their main reason was that it meant no dual mass flywheel which can be an Achilles heel on manuals.

The way he put it was that he'd rather spend a few bob on extra fuel than an awful lot on rebuilding the transmission.

Having said that, I've just spent £2,500 replacing the Automatic gearbox on my TD5 at 80,000 miles. I've had it since nearly new and now 10 years old. No off-roading or anything and a gentle life. The torque converter started playing up on lock-up and I decided to replace the whole gearbox with torque converter as the labour costs were nearly the same. The first time my Land Rover specialist Independent had replaced one for this, and most people thought I was unlucky. However, Automatic in the TD5 every time. Love it and excellent when towing. Next LR will definitely be an Automatic.

Dave

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I've had a manual 200 and a manual 300, but my Disco 2 was an automatic and by far the best.

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Can't speak for the TD5 (I've got the 2002 V8 (after a 300tdi manual)) but towing with the auto is a dream, especially with cruise control. It's the way all cars should be.

 

Did have a problem, 120,000 on the clock, solo and towing, on the level at about 45mph steady speed, when was getting what felt like bad misfire, though nothing in the OBD showed up . . my 'little man down the road' drained the g'box, took the bottom plate off and thoroughly washed out and changed the filter (or something like that) and refilled with oil. Problem gone.

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I have a 2004 td5 auto and wouldn't change it for the world and tows are caravan anywhere anytime whatever the weather

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I have owned Disco Td5 Man and Td5 Auto - the auto was the best by far for ease if nothing else. Also owned Freelander 2 Man and Auto and again the auto was the best :wub:

 

You do lose a bit on fuel consumption but even with my recent LR's command shift I soon lose interest and revert to full auto - as said you have enough to think about when towing than changing gear :rolleyes:

 

I also think towing destroys clutches so prefer auto :unsure:

A Vanner without a van due to the demands of DIY and SWMBO - 40 years was a good run though :unsure:

 

Now a Motorhome Learner with a Fiat Toad :o

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I also think towing destroys clutches so prefer auto :unsure:

 

Not wishing to be controversial, but I've never had a clutch problem with any vehicle I have used for towing . . apart from a short period with a Cortina auto and my current Disco all have been manual (since 1964)

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Not the slightest idea of the merits or otherwise about manual or automatics in that particular vehicle.

 

Bit of a concern that a couple of posters seem to feel they need an automatic in order to drive safely! :o

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I went for an auto (2001 TD5 ES) principally because of problems with my knee. My only previous automatic experience had been witha Vanden Plas Maestro which was absolutely gutless so I was a bit wary. My previous towcar was a series 1 V8 manual Disco on LPG which I had for 7 years.

 

However, the auto TD5 has performed superbly for the 4 years I've had it and tows effortlessly. The gearchanges are almost imperceptible. The only thing you have to get used to is that it sounds as though the clutch is slipping when accelerating from low speed - but this is intentional to keep the engine in the power band. There have been a few people with problems with the selector (XYZ) switchon the side of the gearbox but it's an easy fix. Have a look at the d2 boys club where there is a wealth of expertise - but remember that most people only post when they have a problem. Those of us happily driving about say little!

 

So my recommendation is go for the auto TD5.

Ian.
2013 Freelander 2 SD4 Auto / 2005 Bailey Pageant Vendée; 1952 Norton ES2

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Not wishing to be controversial, but I've never had a clutch problem with any vehicle I have used for towing . . apart from a short period with a Cortina auto and my current Disco all have been manual (since 1964)

 

I have never replaced a clutch on any of my vehicles but on steep gradients towing the Manual clutches did smoke/smell a bit sometimes - stands to reason they were suffering - autos don't. Just my observation and many years of discussions with other owners :unsure:

Bit of a concern that a couple of posters seem to feel they need an automatic in order to drive safely! :o

 

Would you say the same about Aircon and ABS - if something makes life easier why knock it :unsure:

A Vanner without a van due to the demands of DIY and SWMBO - 40 years was a good run though :unsure:

 

Now a Motorhome Learner with a Fiat Toad :o

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Unable to give a comparision between the Auto and the manual.

I have the manual 2002 and pulls caravan very well.

I have owned mine since 2008 when it had 51,000 on the clock,now showing 80,000.

Mine has never given me a problem however I think these vehicles at this age do need proactive maintainance.

Some things to be very aware of buying a td5 . ...................Check very very carefully rear end of chassis for rust,Land Rover decided only to give the chassis a coat of black paint and not much more,result unless the chassis has been waxolyed it will probuably be rusty inside and outside the box section.

The later model you are considering is probuably the best mechanically as most of the problems had been sorted out by 2004.

The 15p engine was much better and the catastrofic problem of the oil pump bolt undoing itself and the engine suffering the results of no oil and all it's ramifications had been addressed, which by the way LR denied there was a problem. Avoid main dealers form servicing,plenty of good indis around.

Check the service history, make sure all oils changed when needed.

Beware also if you buy a td5 you may become addicted to them,they are indeed not like any other 4x4.

I have never had a car this old but simply cannot bring myself to part with mine although I could afford a newer vehicle,get a good one and for towing absolutly great. Towed all over France and Spain this year. Booked already for 2014 again France and Spain. Good luck, let us know if you buy it and how you get on with it ? cheers malc

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Thanks some great feedback. I forgot my friend who I used to off road with has an Auto Disco 2 2004(he has never towed) exactly the vehicle i'm talking about. He's coming around Wednesday for us(or my wife) to try out and sit in it. She prefers automatic cars as the last 6 company cars have been that. Does the auto have a diff lock you can switch to? I used to have a Defender 90 and diff lock is nice to have on occasions.

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Thanks some great feedback. I forgot my friend who I used to off road with has an Auto Disco 2 2004(he has never towed) exactly the vehicle i'm talking about. He's coming around Wednesday for us(or my wife) to try out and sit in it. She prefers automatic cars as the last 6 company cars have been that. Does the auto have a diff lock you can switch to? I used to have a Defender 90 and diff lock is nice to have on occasions.

Martynl What mileage is the disco you are looking at,does it have the air suspension ?

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Not the slightest idea of the merits or otherwise about manual or automatics in that particular vehicle.

 

Bit of a concern that a couple of posters seem to feel they need an automatic in order to drive safely! :o

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IMHO an auto box lets me drive MORE SAFELY by virtue of getting less tired.

For the same reason I use cruise control where possible which tends to also avoid speeding.

 

Before my present Disco I used two Peugeot 406 s, the first was manual the second was Auto & had cruise control.

Comparison of those 2 made me ensure my next car was an Auto.

David

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Martynl What mileage is the disco you are looking at,does it have the air suspension ?

 

 

I haven't bought it yet and I have no idea if it has air suspension or not, I will know more Wednesday. My local repair man who just does Land Rovers advised me for my money to get a 2004 Disco 2. It will probably be around the 100k - 120k mark for miles, i'm still looking. Less if I can get one. I can pretty much drive anything but I need my wife to be able to drive it as she works out in the villages and normally I would transport her in my Defender when the snow is down. Basically I can justify another Landy if she can drive it and it can tow :)

 

The other factor is my Golf Auto tows my Bailey Orion 430/4 really well but my wife would like to upgrade the caravan another 200kg so hence the Disco.

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My wife drove the 2004 D2 we had and loved it - she wont drive the sport though which is a pain if we go out and I want a drink :(

 

The rear should be air suspension so self levelling for towing, etc which is great. You can also raise with switch in vehicle for off road use or raise and lower with optional remote for hitching, etc B)

 

This was mine - still miss it :blush:

 

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A Vanner without a van due to the demands of DIY and SWMBO - 40 years was a good run though :unsure:

 

Now a Motorhome Learner with a Fiat Toad :o

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My wife drove the 2004 D2 we had and loved it - she wont drive the sport though which is a pain if we go out and I want a drink :(

 

The rear should be air suspension so self levelling for towing, etc which is great. You can also raise with switch in vehicle for off road use or raise and lower with optional remote for hitching, etc B)

 

This was mine - still miss it :blush:

 

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Tell me about it. I miss my 90 and it's only been gone a few weeks. :( . Just knowing it is there gives you confidence that you can get anywhere, anytime albeit not quick :) That's another good point about going for a drink, my wife rarely drinks and always drives on functions we go to. Didn't know about the air suspension so thanks. I have a Smart Car for my business and she won't drive that so the Disco will become the main car for us and her. We go on holiday the end of January and last year it was thick snow and not many vehicles were getting around. My 90 got me to the airport no problem so the Disco will be my replacement for that as well.

This was mine

 

 

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I can't offer any advice on this however I will be following with interest.

I've always liked these and now we have a van, depending on how our current tug copes, I may look for one in the future. We'd need a 7 seater but I'm not sure how much space is left once the seats are in use.

Good info on the air suspension too, was this on all models?

 

My wife would drive it too so not sure what she would think of it but she's managed well so far towing with a people carrier.

 

Sorry to thread Jack, I just get excited when disco's are mentioned :)

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Very nice Martyn B)

 

I have always wanted a defender since I was a kid (used to have a friend on a farm and spent school holidays crossing fields and rivers checking livestock in the back of an open top series) but now run 1 car and couldn't live with it as main vehicle - very tempted to buy one before they cease production and hold onto it but SWMBO would kill me :lol:

 

The Disco had narrower tyres than my sport and was a hell of a lot better in bad weather even without fancy electronic terrain response :rolleyes:

 

Not sure about Disco 1 but I had an 02 Disco 2 GS and 04 D2 Metropolis and both had self levelling air suspension MonkeyMark :)

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Now a Motorhome Learner with a Fiat Toad :o

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The rear air suspension was fitted to the 7 seater models the rest had rear coil suspension. The TD5 Series Discovery two extra seats do take up a fair bit of room when folded out and the rear leg room on them is virtually non existent,

 

Dave

Discovery 4 HSE 2015, Bailey Unicorn S4 Barcelona 2018.
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