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The beading that slides into one side of the awning channel has started to chafe through and expose the rubber tubing inside. My concern is this tubing may eventually come away and thus not secure cover. Have spoke to SC about this who want me to email some photos of the problem. Was just wondering if anyone had had a similar problem

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Ours seems OK at the moment. Our only issue at the moment is that the whole cover still moves downwards in heavy rain on the motorway due to the cover soaking the rain up like a sponge and gets very heavy, hence it moves down the dront windows ointo the A-frame.

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Ours seems OK at the moment. Our only issue at the moment is that the whole cover still moves downwards in heavy rain on the motorway due to the cover soaking the rain up like a sponge and gets very heavy, hence it moves down the dront windows ointo the A-frame.

That's not good! So what happens to the NW if it rains?

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Afternoon guys,

 

Just noticed this post and thought I'd update you on some changes, we've made.

 

Some of the earlier Tow Pro Elites did have the issues as high-lighted by scaramanga and pebble, however in response to the feedback received we have made alterations as follows.

 

We now use a heavier duty awning tape, and have added an awning strap at the top of the cover to prevent slippage when wet.

 

Without knowing your real name scaramanga I can't check our records to make sure that the issue was resolved for you, but if there is anything I can do just let me know.

 

Pebble if you are still experiencing issues let me know.

 

Robert Taylor

Sale & Marketing Manager

Specialised Covers

01943 864646

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I just spoke to Naomi at Specialised.

 

She says provided the cover is not in situ for any great length of time before your journey starts in rain then it shouldn't be too bad. ......I'm surmising from that if you're moving your're ok and if you're not the rear of the cover may get wet. How wet is the question? And how heavy will it get?

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I just spoke to Naomi at Specialised.

 

She says provided the cover is not in situ for any great length of time before your journey starts in rain then it shouldn't be too bad. ......I'm surmising from that if you're moving your're ok and if you're not the rear of the cover may get wet. How wet is the question? And how heavy will it get?

 

Can SC not appreciate that we may want to stop for a break for say an hour when it's raining? In addition, the Tow Pro Elite is advertised as having the drop down bit over the windows so when you stop temporaily you don't have to removed the whole cover.

 

The scenario - turn up at a site for a quick overnight stop before catching the early ferry next morning. Cover stays on but you drop the window section. It rains overnight and then you wake up to a very heavy, very wet sponge, aka tow cover. Great cover in principle but IMO flawed for the conditions we have in this country. Somehow the foam backing needs to be made waterproof, perhaps a neoprene type material?

 

IIRC, the Tow Pro Elite was originally developed with Bailey in Australia to protect the 'van front from the muck kicked up on very dry, arid roads. I can see the similarity to England :rolleyes: .

 

Oh, and we sold ours in March after we sold our Delta Ti.

Edited by Pebble

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Yes fair point about the Aussie spec. Not sure what the solution is?

 

Any comment Specialised?

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Thank you for all of your comments regarding the Tow Pro Elite.

I thought it might be worth addressing any concerns you have regarding rain water and the weight of the cover.

 

I remember the conversation Roger had with Naomi, which I believe was specifically regarding the risk of the caravan tipping due to the additional weight of the Tow Pro Elite, particularly if it becomes saturated with rain water. This is not an issue we have ever experienced before and do not believe it to be a risk. Even if the cover was fully saturated (which is highly unlikely) the weight of the cover would not be enough to tip the caravan.

 

As you were advised at the time, the cover is not designed for long term storage, so the risk of excessive water saturation is minimal. Whilst in transit, the cover is forced back against the caravan, due to the pressure from oncoming wind, which prevents any rain water getting between the cover and the caravan. As you have mentioned, the Tow Pro Elite is designed for short term storage, such as a brief stop off or overnight and we do understand your concerns that the cover may become wet, if the rain is particularly heavy. Whilst some rain water may get behind the cover, due to the tailored fit, it is unlikely that this will be excessive and, although some saturation is possible, as per Roberts response above, the covers are fitted with a wide awning tape, preventing the cover from sliding down the caravan. This, along with the tension straps at the top of the cover, will secure the towing protector in place, even with the potential additional weight.

 

You are correct; the Tow Pro Elite is designed to cater for the Australian market. It is more durable as journeys may be longer, over harsher terrain and it will withstand the stronger UV but, alongside the beautiful sunshine they get in Australia, they also experience torrential rain storms, so the cover has been designed around the most severe of weather; therefore, the cover should not have any issues sustaining the dreary British climate.

 

Should customers experience any issue with their cover, we would ask that they contact us directly, so we are able to assess any problems on a case by case basis.

If you have any queries, please feel free to contact us on 01943 864646 or via email.

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I think the reference to tipping may have been about the nose weight being exceeded due to the heavier water logged front cover?

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The cover, being completely wet through would not be enough itself to exceed nose weight limitations. Please bear in mind that the cover dry only weighs between 5-6KG and that typical nose weights for 4x4's are 130-140KG.

 

We have been manufacturing the Tow Pro Elite for nearly 18 months and have not heard of the nose weight being exceeded due to the cover being wet and subsequently tipping the caravan etc.

 

 

Kind regards

Edited by Specialised Covers

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Please bear in mind that the cover dry only weighs roughly 7-8KG and that typical nose weights for 4x4's are 3,500KG.

 

My 4 x 4 won't take 3. 1/2 tonnes but I WANT one if you can get one for me :) :)

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Please bear in mind that the cover dry only weighs roughly 7-8KG

 

 

Katie,

 

I reckon you meant 0. 7- 0. 8KG?

 

David

Edited by Seaman

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I don't think she meant 3. 5 Tonnes noseweight either ;)

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Post updated guys, sorry wrong info! :blush: The post shows, as I'm sure you can all imagine, that a wet cover would not exceed the nose weight.

 

My 4 x 4 won't take 3. 1/2 tonnes but I WANT one if you can get one for me :) :)

WispMan - Think you may need a tank!

 

Kind regards

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The cover, being completely wet through would not be enough itself to exceed nose weight limitations. Please bear in mind that the cover dry only weighs between 5-6KG and that typical nose weights for 4x4's are 130-140KG.

 

We have been manufacturing the Tow Pro Elite for nearly 18 months and have not heard of the nose weight being exceeded due to the cover being wet and subsequently tipping the caravan etc.

 

 

Kind regards

The ALKO hitch has a limitation of 100kg max so if you are using a 4 x 4 the nose weight will probably be at its maximum and exceeding it may cause damage. How much heavier is the cover if saturated as 1litre of water is about 1kg?

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Just to update. I did send my cover back to SC and they did the repair and modifications as stated. I dont have any issues with the cover now.

Edited by Scaramanga

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Without getting into specifics, most caravan manufacturers allow for approximately 140kg of spare weight within a caravan. The nose tends to be able to take approximately 7-8% of the full caravan weight.

 

Throughout our extensive testing of the Tow Pro Elite and all orders placed, we have never experience a caravan tipping due to the weight of the Tow Pro Elite, regardless of whether it is wet or dry; however, as weight allowances and capacities vary depending on the individual caravan, the car used to tow and the amount of passengers, you will need to refer to your caravan literature when loading up your caravan, ensuring you are not over packing. As the Tow Pro Elite only weighs between 5-6kg, there should be plenty of allowance to allow for this in your travels.

 

Kind regards

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Without getting into specifics, most caravan manufacturers allow for approximately 140kg of spare weight within a caravan. The nose tends to be able to take approximately 7-8% of the full caravan weight.

 

Throughout our extensive testing of the Tow Pro Elite and all orders placed, we have never experience a caravan tipping due to the weight of the Tow Pro Elite, regardless of whether it is wet or dry; however, as weight allowances and capacities vary depending on the individual caravan, the car used to tow and the amount of passengers, you will need to refer to your caravan literature when loading up your caravan, ensuring you are not over packing. As the Tow Pro Elite only weighs between 5-6kg, there should be plenty of allowance to allow for this in your travels.

 

Kind regards

Dear Specialized Covers,

 

I don't know where the word 'Tipping the caravan" came into this question, it was certainly not from me.

 

The NW limit of all Alko chassisies is 100 Kg regardless of what vehicle you use to tow it! 4x4, transit van, lorry, tow truck etc etc

 

This NW limit has nothing to do with the amount of weight you can carry in your caravan. It is set either by the Alko chassis limit which is 100kg or the towing vehicles limit or the tow ball's limit. ...........the lower reading of either is the legal limit! Many cars have a NW limit of circa 75-80kg and yes some but not all 4x4's have a limit of 130 kg (but still must not exceed the trailers limit or the tow ball's limit!).

 

But if one should be unlucky to get stopped by VOSA on a wet day it will not be much of a defence to say sorry officer I knew the cover only weighed 5-6 kg dry and I balanced my load to create a NW at 90 kg ish. And now you say I'm over the legal NW limit because the cover absorbed 15 kg of water for arguments sake.

 

Pardon the pun. .......but it doesn't wash imho.

 

So it would be very useful to all your customers if you would kindly soak the cover in water and then weigh it and by doing so you would create a worst case scenario given that the pressure of the wind on it might squeeze out some of the water? Or then again it might not?

 

Then armed with that information it is up to the driver to balance the NW of the caravan to allow for the fact that rain is forecast.

 

But I bet up till now this is one aspect you have not tested. And having not tested it I doubt you would be willing to attend Court to give expert evidence on behalf of one of your customers who was up in the dock for exceeding the NW limit with one of your wet Elite Pro covers?

 

Feel free to contact me direct and I'll happily explain my extensive knowledge of The Road Traffic Act to you. The Dock can be a lonely place when you start waffling!

Edited by Roger3596

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Post updated guys, sorry wrong info! :blush: The post shows, as I'm sure you can all imagine, that a wet cover would not exceed the nose weight.

 

 

WispMan - Think you may need a tank!

 

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Yes it could!

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