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Bob, I have been looking for the same but without success !! I can only assume that there isnt a UK forum, only one in america

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Bob, I have been looking for the same but without success !!  I can only assume that there isnt a UK forum, only one in america

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Bob and Colger,

 

There are several 'world wide' VW owners forums with many British owners.

 

http://www. passatworld. com/forums/

 

http://www. passatowners. com/po/index. htm

 

http://www. tyresmoke. net/ubbthreads/postli. ..t=&Board=VagCom

 

http://forums. vwvortex. com/zeroforum?id=6

 

 

If we were loking to change our Passat TDI the Volvo V70 D5 would be high on the list of possibles. It is the same kerbweight as the 'old' Passat but a lot lighter than the new one.

 

Frank

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Bob and Colger,

 

There are several 'world wide' VW owners forums with many British owners.

 

http://www. passatworld. com/forums/

 

http://www. passatowners. com/po/index. htm

 

http://www. tyresmoke. net/ubbthreads/postli. ..t=&Board=VagCom

 

http://forums. vwvortex. com/zeroforum?id=6

If we were loking to change our Passat TDI the Volvo V70 D5 would be high on the list of possibles. It is the same kerbweight as the 'old' Passat but a lot lighter than the new one.

 

Frank

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Thanks for that Frank, I had found three out of four!

Interested in your kerbweight comment because I havn't got as far as power to weight ratios yet. I assume you are referring to the "Mk2" V70 but which Passat. I understand there was a facelift in 2002, by "old" do you mean before 2002 or earlier. Having trouble getting my head round the V70 being lighter than the Passat! Is this a Ford influence? :D

Thanks again, Bob G

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Bib,

 

By old Passat I am refering to the B5. 5 which ran from 2002 to 2005. The new B6 was introduced recently.

 

Try Carpages for data.

 

http://www. carpages. co. uk/guide/volkswagen/

 

The B5. 5 TDI PD130 saloon is about 1565kgs with the V70 around the same. The B5. 5 TDI estate is 1618kgs. The B6 saloon is upto 1648kgs depending on model.

 

Frank

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Bob, at the risk of sounding daft - 99% of the people on the V70 forum will say their cars are great. Ditto whatever VW fora you find. ..

 

If you are looking for a diesel try somewhere like www. dervhead. com you just might find someone who's impartial. ... probably not though.

 

 

p. s. the V70 is better. .....lol

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Bob I had a '99 Passat tdi SE 110 ( as it was then ) for 3 years, then a 2002 Passat Estate tdi SE 130 and now a Volvo V70 D5. I was more than happy with the Passats both towing and solo and only changed to the Volvo when the lease on the estate was up. Another Passat would have meant 9 years of driving virtually the same car. If the new model had been available back in February I may not have changed.

 

However the V70 is a better all round car in my opinion. Far more stable ( although I'm not suggesting that the Passats weren't ) and comfortable towing. Economy is probably about the same, although the Volvo, I think, may have the edge due to it's cruise control as standard.

 

Both have small pros and cons that will be down to personal taste and requirements. Whichever you choose you won't go far wrong.

 

Over the past few years I have towed from South Wales to Cornwall a couple of times a year and down to Biarritz and back each summer with the same van. So comparisons are on a 'like for like' basis.

 

My van is a 2003 Bailey Senator Arizona with an mtplm of 1472kg.

 

I hope that this helps.

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Bob and Jim,

 

I think that a point worth making here are the manufacturers prices for equivalent models of Passat and Volvo V70.

 

VW Passat TDI PD130 SE Estate £18875

This is the B5. 5 as the estate version of the B6 has not been introduced yet.

 

Volvo V70 D5 SE £28413

 

You can do a lot with over £9500.

 

Frank

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Thanks all for some good advice.

Nice idea Frank but as I am using my own money, don't do many miles, and run two cars, I am looking at secondhand hand and am in the area of 2000 V70 (petrol or diesel) or 2002 Passat (diesel).

For me the big problem with the V70 (99-2002) according to the Owners Club Forum, is the unreliable "Fly By Wire" throttle, which doesn't appear to be covered on two warranty deals I've looked at. I may be wrong here, hope so.

The Passat, although more powerful and refined is kinda similar to the Peugeot 1. 9 Turbo Diesel I use now. Also I haven't found out enough about reliability, which was why I asked about owners forums/fora

I am keeping and open mind about petrol vs diesel. OK the savings with diesel are nice but with my modest mileage I can put up with the extra petrol cost. So the V70T5 stays on my list!

Because of the complexity of modern cars, the deciding factor may be the nearest specialist repairer!

Bob G

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Bob,

 

The V70 T5 just eats front tyres. 5-7K is quite normal if you have a heavy right foot. Nice performance though. A friend changed from a T5 to a D5 and was amazed at the distance travelled before the fuel gauge needle moved on the D5 - you could watch the needle move on a T5.

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Bob - I had a 2003 Passatt diesel Estate [sport] 130bhp 6 Speed. Our van was an Abbey Aventura 316 MTPLM 1350kg/26. 6cwt. The car had plenty of pulling power but it did not like me using 6th gear when towing! Mpg was fantastic solo 50+ but 26ish towing. We changed it for the Landcruiser because the Passatt felt a bit twitchy [snakey] when being overtaken by heavy faster vehicles. There was a definite S type movement which was uncomfortable. I did once experience the 'smelly clutch' when reversing up a steep driveway. However, solo the car was a real 'buzz' to drive and put a smile on my face every time - very quick and comfortable for long/short journeys. No problems with the car 100% reliable.

My decision to go for a 4x4 was right for me - I am retired now - wanted to tour on the Continent and never have to worry about wet grass etc. Overtaking vehicles never trouble me now - my current Abbey/Landcruiser weight ratio is about 67%.

When I was younger and caravanning we always used a Volvo 265 later 760 petrol and automatics, but that was light years ago.

Good luck its a big decision - hope you get it right 'first time'

Mike B)

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I am happy with my Passat Sport Estate TDI pulling my Provence with an MTPLM of 1420 kgs. I can regularly use 6th gear especially on motorways and seem to have sufficient torque to take me up to 70 mph if I dont watch the speedometer. Having cruise control certainly helps in this respect.

Interestingly the Provence has just had its first service and it is towing much better, very little 'swaying' even when lorries or coaches overtake.

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Hi

 

53 Passat 130tdi saloon now with 26000 miles (noticiable improvement once 19/20K mark passed) done towing a bailey Vendee 2005 (approx 1400kg).

 

Goes like the clappers solo, towing hard to keep the speed down. Excellent on cruise with van on gentle undulations at 65mph. Gives 55 and 28/30 mpg respectivly.

Spain and back each year plus uk trips.

Can have a smelly clutch if you abuse it reversing.

 

Go for it!!

 

waiting to test now for the new 180 hp Estate with the auto? box.

 

 

Regards

 

Trident

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Why not look at a new shape Skoda Octavia 2. 0 tdi, also has a very good uk forum www. briskoda. net any questions answered :)

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Why not look at a new shape Skoda Octavia 2. 0 tdi, also has a very good uk forum  www. briskoda. net any questions answered :)

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Why not indeed.

 

The only downside is the towing limit.

1400kgs for the Skoda,

1600kgs for the Passat B5. 5 and

1800kgs for the Passat B6.

 

Frank

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With all this great advice, I may not need an Owners Forum!. LOL

So, any thoughts on 5 or 6 speed box, bearing in mind I'am looking at 2002 (ish)Is auto transmission available, tiptronic/geartronic, any opinions?

Lastly, plenty of happy owners here but any reliability problems?

Thanks in advance

Bob G

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Hi Bob,

 

Our 2003 SE has a 5spd box and will pull our 1220kg van in 5th up hill and down dale.

 

VW auto boxes of this age are about 7mpg down on the manuals according to the brochures.

 

In 20k miles the car has averaged 46. 5mpg,with best solo 60mpg and best towing 33mpg.

 

Problems have been stiff boot hinges which were replaced and a static electricity build up on the drive belt causing alternator warnings,cured with modified alternator pulley. Apart from these it is trouble free.

 

My neighbour who does 50k/year is on his second TDI as he couldn't find an alternative he liked better.

 

Easy on tyres.

 

Best car to date including 4 pre GM Saabs.

 

Frank

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Hi all,

 

My Passat tows like a train, even to the extent of my brother in law telling me to slow down as his big tonka toy couldn't keep up and me having a heavier van. This was on the lanes in North Wales well known for the hills and corners, nothing illegal or risky I may add. My only limitation is set by myself and that is reversing. From this forum and others I guess the clutch may be suspect so I'm not going to give it the chance to fail or start by getting smelly. Any reversing is done in a very controlled manner and well within the limits of the car and my abilities. I have the mover as well for the last bit of shuffling about. All in all I'm very happy with the car it is now 10 months old and on its 2nd windscreen ( stones) and an engine undertray after someone left their old large exhaust in the middle of a dark road. It is the 4 motion and is a fair bit heavier on diesel than the 2WD returning 42mpg (not towing) as opposed to 50mpg from the others. Use of 6th gear is obviously limited whilst towing due to the engine speed and torque curve but with a good bit of common sense no problems. We managed Cornwall from Cheshire in a very quick time this summer and that was keeping within the speed limit unlike a lot of others. I would say I did a bit of slip streaming behind lorries to improve my overall range and that suprisingly brought my fuel consumption right up (comparitively). A good solid motor bought from Virgin cars well under list price. ( Some limitations as to their ethics ) All turning out well in the end. Can't comment on Volvos but they have a sound reputation, pound for pound couldn't comment.

 

Cheers

 

Bob

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Why not indeed.

 

The only downside is the towing limit.

1400kgs for the Skoda,

1600kgs for the Passat B5. 5 and

1800kgs for the Passat B6.

 

Frank

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I Have the Skoda Superb comfort TDi/PD 130 bhp.

Its towing limit is 1600kgs. Compare the prices with With VW, Audi and car for car and price for price there is no contest

John W

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Hi my outfit is Passat Estate 1. 9 TDI 130 with the Tip tronic gearbox and like many other Reply’s im chuffed to bits with it’s ability Solo & Towing (Compass Omega), Solo 45 to 52 MPG and the last trip (the New Forest) with the van returned 41 going & 38 on the run home. I wanted a Diesel and the Wife wanted a Auto box that was the only requests. as for Volvo two people that I know have had major problems one was a T5 (kept loosing electrics he would be driving a long and all electrical circuits would go dead no lights, radio, fan nothing would work) and 2nd was a D5 (I think), that had 2 complete dash installed every thing would burn up or stop working the heater would put it self on full Hot or Full Cold when ever it liked.

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I Have the Skoda Superb comfort TDi/PD 130 bhp.

Its towing limit is 1600kgs. Compare the prices with With VW, Audi and car for car and price for price there is no contest

John W

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Tiffy,

 

According to Carpages your Skodas list price is £19500 while the new Passat B6 TDI PD140 SE is £18400.

 

The Skoda is a good car but it's not a bargain when compared with the Passat.

 

They are both a bargain when compared with Audi as they both lie somewhere between the A4 and A6 in terms of size and weight.

 

http://www. carpages. co. uk/guide/volkswagen/

 

Frank

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From the 'horses mouth' - the skoda Website

 

Comfort 1. 9 TDI PD 130bhp - RRP = £16800

 

. ..and from the VW website

 

SE2. 0 140PS TDI 6spd - RRP = £18,405

 

Looks like £1605 difference. To tell the truth, I would find the difference and go for the VW (failing that buy a Ford). B)

 

Dont think I could handle feeling I had to explain to everyone why I bought a Skoda. .. Everyone I have met who has a Skoda, seems to have a prepared list of reasons, which they rattle off. You dont need to do that with a VW or Audi. B)

 

Gaz

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Gaz,

 

The Skoda Superb Comfort should be compared with the Passat 'S' which lists at £17145 against the Skodas £16800

 

The Skoda Elegance is £19500 and the Passat SE is £18400.

 

Remember also that the Passat is the new generation and has a kerbweight of 1650kgs and a towing limit of 1800kgs,plus more horses and torque.

 

My 2003 Passat TDI PD130 SE cost me £15295 new.

 

Frank

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