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We currently tow our Valencia with our Freelander 2, and as far as towing goes it's superb, loads of power/torque and permanent 4 wheel drive and solo it's a pleasure, but with 2, soon to be 3 English Springers and all the usual caravan gear, space is starting to become a premium.

 

I have been thinking about a pick-up with a truck top on the back, namely the Nissan Navara Tekna 2. 5 Auto. It's got impressive towing figures and kit, like reversing camera etc, and can swallow huge amounts of gear and dogs. not been for a test drive yet and understand it's not going to be as nice to drive solo as the Freely, but compromises have to be made.

 

I have also looked at the new VW Amorok, which is so rare on our roads due to high demand and low availability that I have only seen one in the flesh, but looks fantastic on paper. 2 litre Bi-turbo producing similar towing stats as a 2. 5 Navara, but much improved fuel and tax costs.

 

My thoughts are, is the compromise worth it ? will I be disapointed with any of the pick-ups after leaving the Landrover or is the towing experience with the big pick-ups that much better.

 

I would appreciate any feed back.

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We tow our Madrid with a navara aventura manual. Not sure how the vw can be cheaper as we only pay £125 a year rfl but would imagine at part load the smaller engine would be more frugal.

 

As for solo driving it's actually very very impressive. Very car like, little body roll and goes like stink. Certainly a sportier drive than my discovery 3.

 

Towing is just supreme. Very very surefooted, doesn't let the van take over even in very high cross winds particularly as we load everything in the truck. It can carry absolutely everything, we recently took a 2 1/2 week trip to Scotland with 2 awnings, 2 mountain bikes, 2 moon chairs, 2 aqua rolls, waste master, 2 large boxes with kit, one massive box with pegs and other stuff, swallowed the lot in the canopy. We encountered driving rain, winds, rough roads and the nav just blasted along.

 

Brilliant.

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Thanks for the response Madrunner, I do really like the Navara, and I can imagine how well it handles your Madrid. Compared to my Freely, it has acres of load space, i could put the dogs (in their transit crates) and all the gear in the back, leaving the rear seats for passengers or odds and ends. My previous car was an Xtrail, which I loved and never went wrong in 5 years I owned it, so I appreciate the Japanese reliability. The Vw does not come with an auto box until sometime next year, and apparently they are currently changing hands at 2k/3k above RRP due to the shortage in supply, so no point in buying until the supply is sorted anyway.

 

Do you have the 170bhp or the 190bhp, I would be interested to take a test drive with our van on the back.

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Hi we have the 174 model . Really cannot fault it. We've towed over 8000 miles with it in all weathers and it's been impeccable.

 

On one particularly muddy site we even towed out a huge motorhome stuck up to it's front axles. Easy peezy.

 

The manual 4wd selector is great too meaning normal rear wheel drive running for economy.

 

If you do go for a pick up make sure you get windows in the canopy - near side reversing is tricky otherwise !!!!!

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We had a test drive in an FL2 recently and I have to agree it's a great car to drive, but we rejected it because of the limited boot space. Have you considered a roof box as an interim measure ?

Jimbo

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as a slight side note, the truck canapy tops are not 100% water tight

Hi Jackyboy,

Have you considered a Toyota HiLux Twincab, I drive a 3-0 D4D Auto with a nice top on, solo I can achieve 40 + mpg towing my not lightweight Hymer 545 SL 26 + mpg. Towing 70mph = 2000 rpm. I tried the other vat free trucks mitsi's,nissan and ford and beleive me it's worth spending the extra for a HiLux with the bits on. Auto,cruise,aircon,leather. I've also fitted a PowerBaox which takes it up to 175 bhp. I don't know where scott b got his truck or top from, but myToyotap><p>Uploaded with <!--url{2}-->g]<img src=

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The Nissan product information chap at the NEC show assured me that the truck top is watertight, that said there are a number of other top canopy suppliers that produce very good quality products that I would hope are watertight as they are produced with the dog/pet owner in mind. Thanks for the reply indoors, will have a close look at the Toyota 3-0 D4D, it looks good :)

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Hi

 

I have a 3. 0 V6 Navara and found it tows very well although the gearbox was quite often in the wrong gear but works fine in manual mode.

 

As far as living with as a car I find it fine but I do have a bag with a paving slab in the back to make the ride better with no load in.

 

Also I have a roller shutter on the back and that leaks a bit and also because the back isn’t part of the car it suffers from condensation build up and so can be damp regardless of what is on the back.

 

Cheers

 

Simon

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Interesting topic, I've been looking into l200 and navaras - however the "What Car" owners reviews paint a poor picture of reliability for the Nissan which is rather worrying.

 

Might go look at an amorok or hi-lux

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Hi Maffff,

In four yrs with the HiLux at 71,500 mls, she ain't missed a beat, though as I stated in an earlier post,when new in standard guise I thought it was not correctly geared for towing,( caravan at high speed ) cruising at 70 mph it was searching up and down, I fitted a PowerBox, ( which incidently I also fitted one to an earlier Sorento ) and the difference is great. Now pulls like a train and holds high cruising speeds effortlessly. But as stated earlier driven correctly,it's very economical. Catch ya later,indoors.

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Hi indoors

 

Thanks for the info

 

What sort of mpg should I expect when driving with and without a caravan ?

 

Thanks

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Hi Maffff,

As stated earlier, I can on Motorway or Autoroute @ 70mph on speedo = 66mph on tomtom @ 2000rpm get 44 mpg SOLO.

TOWING same speeds 26 mpg. Not bad for a heavy 4x4, though it has a streamlined top not a Ifor williams sheep carrier, Catch ya later,indoors.

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Ford? Toyota? I wonder which will be more reliable? Last longer? Not drop to bits? Hold it's value? Er, let's think. Hmmm, I believe that might be the Toyota.

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We tow an Almeria with a Nissan Navara. Alpha GSE top on the back for our 3 springers, with a bed rug liner in for a bit of comfort for them while travelling. Love the Nav, had it for just short of 3 years and 50k miles. Tows like a dream, very sure footed. Surprisingly quick solo for such a big car. If I was to have one criticism of the Nav it would be that it is not the best for rear seat passengers

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We hot the Nissan Navara 2. 5 Tekna auto and it bowl like a dream. When it we new we were getting 22mpg to a site in the lakes. After 5k miles the engine has freed up and we get 29mpg on the same run. Our van fully loaded is 1930kg and it pulls like a dream. We have played with the more weight and find 95-100kg it best for towing. If it is too low it bounces a bit. As for the ride quality. It is more bouncy than a car due to leaf springs but when you put a load in the back it drives better. Rear passenger room is okay for kids or adults on a short journey. The car has now done 7k and has not missed a beat. People stop and look on how good I can reverse up to the tow ball so accurately. The reverse camera is AMAZING

 

Going up Shap plenty of vans were down to 45mph towing large vans. The Navara kept at 60mph all day long and still had plenty to spare. I would highly recommend it.

 

Shop round for prices though. The dealer wanted £25K plus VAT and came down to £22K plus VAT after shopping round we got it from a lease company for £19,200 Plus VAT

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So Jackyboy, what did you get in the end if any?

By the way you can see what i tow & hands down for me it's a dream. No leaf spring on it so it does give a better ride (my opinion) & it does have air con vents at the back for my dogs.

Cheers Ray

 

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Just a quick question, but going back a few years, it was always considered to best not tow with a vehicle fitted with leaf springs. Never found out why, have any of you any problems with your car or van when towing?

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Just a quick question, but going back a few years, it was always considered to best not tow with a vehicle fitted with leaf springs. Never found out why, have any of you any problems with your car or van when towing?

 

I have been told it is better not to tow with a leaf spring, but according to Elddis ( i phoned them up) it makes no difference and the van is still covered under warranty. what I fend beneficial is that is is a normal car is designed to carry passengers and luggage. The nissan is designed to carry 1 tonne and still be able to tow 2. 6 tonne without any problem. It actually drives better with a heavy weight in the rear. I am self employed and VAT registered so I claim back a large chunk of the VAT through my business and it is better for tax purposes. But nowI have used it to tow, I would buy one even if I never owned a business as they are so versatile.

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We currently tow our Valencia with our Freelander 2, and as far as towing goes it's superb, loads of power/torque and permanent 4 wheel drive and solo it's a pleasure, but with 2, soon to be 3 English Springers and all the usual caravan gear, space is starting to become a premium.

 

I have been thinking about a pick-up with a truck top on the back, namely the Nissan Navara Tekna 2. 5 Auto. It's got impressive towing figures and kit, like reversing camera etc, and can swallow huge amounts of gear and dogs. not been for a test drive yet and understand it's not going to be as nice to drive solo as the Freely, but compromises have to be made.

 

I have also looked at the new VW Amorok, which is so rare on our roads due to high demand and low availability that I have only seen one in the flesh, but looks fantastic on paper. 2 litre Bi-turbo producing similar towing stats as a 2. 5 Navara, but much improved fuel and tax costs.

 

My thoughts are, is the compromise worth it ? will I be disapointed with any of the pick-ups after leaving the Landrover or is the towing experience with the big pick-ups that much better.

 

I would appreciate any feed back.

 

I was about to sign on the dotted line to get a navara when the night before I did one last bit of research and the owner reviews on what car magazine are terrible. Lots of problems with clutches, gearboxes and half shalfs. Real shame as its a lovely truck. I'm now considering a Hi-lux

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I was about to sign on the dotted line to get a navara when the night before I did one last bit of research and the owner reviews on what car magazine are terrible. Lots of problems with clutches, gearboxes and half shalfs. Real shame as its a lovely truck. I'm now considering a Hi-lux

 

Look at the age of the reviews. They are all for the older model. I have got the Auto and up to now it hasn't missed a beat. If you look all cars can have good and bad reviews. If you search for the Hi Lux you will also find good and bad reviews. But I would not hesitate to recomend the Nissan.

 

When I bought the Nissan I also read bad reviews, Same as my Elddis I read bad reviews, My Motor Mover is a Rhyno, Again I read bad reviews. But I looked further than the reviews and made my own decision.

 

Where ever you go, What ever you buy. People will always say "you should have done this or that, or you should have bought this and not that. The decisions is yours.

 

What ever you go for I hope it gives you many years of trouble free motoring. But IMHO I made the correct decision in going for the Nissan.

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So Jackyboy, what did you get in the end if any?

By the way you can see what i tow & hands down for me it's a dream. No leaf spring on it so it does give a better ride (my opinion) & it does have air con vents at the back for my dogs.

Cheers Ray

Not bought anything yet, still dithering to be honest, last week I drove a friends disco 3 HSE and it was simply awsome, but can I ignore the almost inevitable repair bills ?. As mentioned on here the new Ranger looks very smart, but its not out here yet. I still like both the Navara and the Hilux and I have considered the Tourareg and the 7 seat Santa Fe, I have rather rulled out the Amarok as I am not convinced the engine is strong enough and it's not cheap. I'm sure at some point I will settle on one or the other and will keep you posted.

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Not bought anything yet, still dithering to be honest, last week I drove a friends disco 3 HSE and it was simply awsome, but can I ignore the almost inevitable repair bills ?. As mentioned on here the new Ranger looks very smart, but its not out here yet. I still like both the Navara and the Hilux and I have considered the Tourareg and the 7 seat Santa Fe, I have rather rulled out the Amarok as I am not convinced the engine is strong enough and it's not cheap. I'm sure at some point I will settle on one or the other and will keep you posted.

 

I too have been looking at the disco's as am land rover lover having spent many year off roading. I currently still have an old 4. 2lse range rover which is fantastic but stupidly juicy. The problem I keep coming back to is a the electrical problems with the disco. But as I love them so much I try to ignore them and take it with a pinch of salt but when my local 4x4 repair shop advised me to by a hi lux because of the problems I can't help thinking I have to take note :-((((

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