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Why do so many people forget about CO in caravans, when at home they are vigilant? Older caravans are especially susceptible with dirty burners and ageing appliances.

I would have thought that this is one of the most important things they would ask about but when we mention it a lot just shrug and seem oblivious to the dangers.

Don't know what you all think but having experienced the loss of a friends parents through this (not in a caravan but in a boat) I find it astonishing that it's not more widely advertised in the magazines and clubs.

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To be honest i'm actually more wary of CO2 in a caravan that at home, just like I am of fire for some reason! Think it's because at home my boiler gets serviced, if there's a breakdown or anything to do with gas it's easy just to pick up the phone and let someone else deal with it for me whereas at the caravan you've got to be on your guard more I think, again with the confined space and mine being an older caravan.

 

When I was at the caravan at the weekend I checked my smoke alarm to find it ***** since my last check and my CO2 one is the one that was in the caravan when I got it so before we left yesterday it's my mission this week to replace both.

 

I also have fire extinguishers dotted about the caravan, well a couple of the small ones plus my Dad's getting me the next size up from his work, he said "if I want" so I said yes for in the awning and / or having bbq's although BBQ season is long gone!

 

Again fire is one of my biggest fears but seeing how quickly a caravan can go up and the aftermath is really horrible.

 

I'm probably one of these people who annoy others cos they can be too careful at times but as I say you never can be too careful.

 

So before Friday it's a new CO and smoke alarm for me :)

Compass Shadow 1988

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I think the previous posters must be referring to CO (Carbon Monoxide) and not CO2 (Carbon Dioxide).

 

Whilst both can kill, it takes a lot more CO2 than CO.

 

To be not quite so alarmist, remember that apart from the cooker, in relatively modern caravans the other gas appliances are Room Sealed (apart form the Thetford fridges, which SHOULD be, but often are not).

 

All new vans from September just gone are fitted with CO Alarms as standard.

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Not a CO reference but a warning about fire.

 

ALL Camping and Caravan Club members are expected to put a RED bucket full of water near the Tow Hitch.

 

At a recent meet an awning fire occurred and their own bucket had only an inch of water in it. :(

 

The gas bottle fire was put out with a foam extinguisher from an adjacent caravan. :)

 

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I was only reading a few weeks ago this months C&CC Magazine have got an article on the dangers of Carbon Monoxide .

 

This year seemed be a particular bad year for the number of deaths of campers in all types of units.

 

 

 

Dave

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I think the previous posters must be referring to CO (Carbon Monoxide) and not CO2 (Carbon Dioxide).

 

Whilst both can kill, it takes a lot more CO2 than CO.

 

To be not quite so alarmist, remember that apart from the cooker, in relatively modern caravans the other gas appliances are Room Sealed (apart form the Thetford fridges, which SHOULD be, but often are not).

 

All new vans from September just gone are fitted with CO Alarms as standard.

 

 

That's me with the CO2 instead of CO :blink: Just couldn't be bothered typing "carbon monoxide" everytime :ph34r:

 

I've got the 2 small standard fire extinguishers in mine and the awning will be coming down soon but as I don't tow going to get one or two more off my Dad for when the season starts with the awning up again. The "site" i'm on is unofficial so there's no proper fire safety method in place, Fire Safety bosses would have a field day :huh: however he is in the middle of work to make it into a proper site as it's his land at the back of a park homes site, but thankfully there's only 6 of us seasonals well spaced and also thankfully sensible enough to have fire safety equipment.

 

The thing with a fire is at least people can see when your in danger and will help, with CO it's "the silent killer" so no one knows until it's too late which is scary. The only thing in my caravan now on gas is the cooker. Have not used the fridge on gas yet, only ever EHU but will try it out of curiosity although in the winter i'll probably just use a cool box stored outside when EHU goes off.

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It wasnt just you, the OP titled the topic Carbon Monoxide then went on about Carbon Dioxide,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

The biggest problem with gas appliances in caravans is LACK of use. ..the more they are used, the better they are as the gas valves need to operated regularly to keep them working properly and keep the burner in good condition.

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Oh right, suppose I just followed suit with the CO2 :D

Compass Shadow 1988

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One customer of mine whose job was and with some sophisticated measuring equipment to use, had the idea to test for CO in his very old totally unserviced van, open gas fire to boot!

To make things a bit more interesting he sealed the door behind him after switching everything on full, one hour later no reading at all zero!

Fact is the caravan is to well ventilated for CO to build up without there being a very serious problem that has probably been ignored.

 

I tell my customers things like the gas fire are designed to light easily, not taking countless pushes of the piezo in the process, just because they are old does not make them worse, only the lack of fairly regular service and some TLC.

I'm firmly of the belief gas appliances will kill themselves long before you, ignore these early warnings, or worse, mackly them yourself into some form of working order and then they will bite. .. and bite hard!!

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It depends on which alarm you get.

READ the instructions very carefully and FOLLOW them.

It most certainly does NOT want to be directly above any heat source.

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I tried getting the water boiler working on gas but, as the previous poster mentioned, it seems to have killed itself. The only thing I use gas for is the cooker, everything else runs of the ehu, which I prefer. I also have a CO and fire detector which I know works since if I start cooking without opening the windows and putting the air extractor on it promptly howls in anger.

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Quote " if I start cooking without opening the windows and putting the air extractor on it promptly howls in anger."

 

If that is happening, you seriously need to get your gas system and appliances serviced.

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