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My daughter and her hubby borrowed our ranger to go off for a week. they've used it before and our son in law is a careful driver. Accidents happen, and he reversed and hit a wall doing 'slight damage'to the bottom rear corner of the van, also a broken rear lighting lens. I thought I would contact my insurers to see if they had a list of recommended repairers and said I wasn't wanting to make a claim at that point as I was going to see how much the repair would be and maybe just pay myself and thinking it would be about the same or a little more than my excess. WRONG!!!. Two quotes for repair one £1,470. and the other £3,140. I'm not disputing either quote although one seems to be well out and both repairers say it needs a new rear panel (a small 2" hole and broken lens) plus all other works involved.

Finally my point is be extra careful out there it could be costly even a small scratch.

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It is labour charges that make up the bulk of the quotes,

Sometimes it is worth looking for a recommended "little man"

with less overheads

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Hi Zen,

My mate in the trade uses a local car body shop to make good any small repairs to 'vans he's taken in and they make a superb job of GRP repairs and repaint at a lot less than Whole back end replacements. Just a thought. Catch ya later,indoors.

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Ouch !! Whats the caravan worth ? as the insurance company might say its not worth repairing at over £3000 .

 

I would of thought the difference in price for patching it up and other is doing a proper replacement . Any work carried out on a caravan cost a lot of money (i had a repair quote of £10000 for some damp a few years ago .)

 

 

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Hi Dave,

I as you know run a Company,with Company vehicles, it's a 24/7 business and now and again if not on the road sometimes on site we will pick up the odd dink. I don't like going down the " claim for everything " route, so often ask a friend in the Body shop trade to make good repairs to our vans. This friend was past on to my other friend who sells caravans and it works a treat for us all. Believe me a £ 200-£300 repair to a little crack in the back end of a 'van is money well spent compared to waiting months sometimes for Caravan dealers and manufacturers to get off their back ends. Catch ya later,indoors.

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It could be the back panel is ABS and not a very easy material to repair . Even Body shop repair companies normally replace ABS bumpers rather than try to repair them when damaged .

 

 

 

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Contact a Local Coachbuilder and get an estimate? They do vans, cars and lorries.

 

A caravan is not that much different and they would soon tell you what can or cannot be done.

 

You can fit a new lens yourself if you can get it supplied.

 

To prevent water ingress in the meantime use Duct Tape.

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waiting months sometimes for Caravan dealers and manufacturers to get off their back ends.

 

And of course insurance companies.

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My daughter and her hubby borrowed our ranger to go off for a week. they've used it before and our son in law is a careful driver. Accidents happen, and he reversed and hit a wall doing 'slight damage'to the bottom rear corner of the van, also a broken rear lighting lens. I thought I would contact my insurers to see if they had a list of recommended repairers and said I wasn't wanting to make a claim at that point as I was going to see how much the repair would be and maybe just pay myself and thinking it would be about the same or a little more than my excess. WRONG!!!. Two quotes for repair one £1,470. and the other £3,140. I'm not disputing either quote although one seems to be well out and both repairers say it needs a new rear panel (a small 2" hole and broken lens) plus all other works involved.

Finally my point is be extra careful out there it could be costly even a small scratch.

 

hi Zen try this link.

http://faq. ninja250. org/wiki/Plastics_repair_with_ABS_cement

 

cheers rodders B)

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thanks for your input folks. the reason for the back panel to be replaced I am told, is because it is plastic and although it can be repaired it could possibly crack later on (so I'm told).

Rodders your link was very informative and could be worth considering, but when you see the thickness of the plastic, there's not a lot to work on. As for body repir shops I never thought of them so will do a bit of digging around.

At the end of the day the damage is cosmetic and although the two repair people said the repair would be as good as the original,I am a little sceptic as to whether the work could compromise the waterseals. .

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a 2" hole will repair and paint easily, but has been said its the longevity of the repair which is questionable. as regards the replacement panel, the cost of the panel alone is approx £1800, then you have the sealants, both rear corner moulds and roof strap, decals and badges then 12hrs labour to complete the repair

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Yes Reads I've got the quotes, but I was surprised at how much just a little damage could cost. I was told by both people who quoted that the damage could possibly be repaired but they couldn't guarantee how long it would last. I don't know if it was just salesmans spiel. I bow to others knowledge and am still open to suggestions. My quotes are ready to be sent in. I'm just not convinced replacing the panel is the right answer

Incidently I was told by one of the quoters, even to patch the hole properly the panel would need to be removed.

Just to repeat myself, looking at the damage from a laymans eyes, I would have thought 50- 100 woould cover it.

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Doesn't this show how little thought manufactures give to this issue. To replace a whole back panel just because of a small hole in the bottom right corner is ridiculous This is where damage is likely to occur. What is needed is a replaceable protective bumper or something which could be done at much less cost. At least the alu-tech system seems to address this

 

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Doesn't this show how little thought manufactures give to this issue. To replace a whole back panel just because of a small hole in the bottom right corner is ridiculous This is where damage is likely to occur. What is needed is a replaceable protective bumper or something which could be done at much less cost. At least the alu-tech system seems to address this

 

poolebob

 

hey, that's a good thought bob.

how about you fit a rubber bumper/ reflective cover over the hole and ensure it is sealed.

may be able to get something from local car accessory shop.

put one on the other side to protect it.

might work

and where the heck do they get £1800, for a plastic moulded panel?

 

just noticed a new post, check this link, maybe they can help

 

http://www. caravantalk. org. uk/user/45851-elitesurfacerepairs/

 

cheers rodders B)

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zen,

 

send me a picture of the damage and i will see if i can come up with something. service@readcaravans. com

Hi shouldnt high jack this thread but can small dings- no paint break be filled by layers of paint then polished

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zen,

 

send me a picture of the damage and i will see if i can come up with something. service@readcaravans. com

 

I have sent you a picture of damage for your perusal. Fingers crossed.

Doesn't this show how little thought manufactures give to this issue. To replace a whole back panel just because of a small hole in the bottom right corner is ridiculous This is where damage is likely to occur. What is needed is a replaceable protective bumper or something which could be done at much less cost. At least the alu-tech system seems to address this

 

poolebob

 

I like this idea could be a market out there.

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reason they replace the whole panel is because of repair warranties. If it's ABS then try a few car bumper repair specialists, a lot of them now do plastic welding and then complete repair as good as new. Bumpers are the same ABS so if it works for car bumpers it should work for your back panel.

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My daughter and her hubby borrowed our ranger to go off for a week. they've used it before and our son in law is a careful driver. Accidents happen, and he reversed and hit a wall doing 'slight damage'to the bottom rear corner of the van, also a broken rear lighting lens. I thought I would contact my insurers to see if they had a list of recommended repairers and said I wasn't wanting to make a claim at that point as I was going to see how much the repair would be and maybe just pay myself and thinking it would be about the same or a little more than my excess. WRONG!!!. Two quotes for repair one £1,470. and the other £3,140. I'm not disputing either quote although one seems to be well out and both repairers say it needs a new rear panel (a small 2" hole and broken lens) plus all other works involved.

Finally my point is be extra careful out there it could be costly even a small scratch.

 

hi zen have you had any joy with your repair?

we would all benefit if you have.

let us know.

 

cheers rodders B)

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Hi, Rodders, I have handed my quotes into the insurance people. One of them was from Discover, so thats a non-starter after this weeks news plus because of the age of my van, to take their quote the van would probably written off.

As I've pointed out in earlier posts I'm not keen on having the back replaced as at the moment I have no problem with water ingress.

I have had one quote from Reads on this forum and he has said he can do repair in situ' thus no worry about leaks. (the damage is at the bottom corner of the panel). I am more and more interested in whether some kind of moulding could be made to cover the damaged area, so that it looks good cosmetically and no drastic measures need be taken. The damage to my van won't go down that road as it will need doing before the onset of winter. I had it out this week and because of damage to light lens I have problems of dodgy connections to my side light and brake light. will keep you posted on the avenue I go down with repair and the repair itself.

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Hi, Rodders, I have handed my quotes into the insurance people. One of them was from Discover, so thats a non-starter after this weeks news plus because of the age of my van, to take their quote the van would probably written off.

As I've pointed out in earlier posts I'm not keen on having the back replaced as at the moment I have no problem with water ingress.

I have had one quote from Reads on this forum and he has said he can do repair in situ' thus no worry about leaks. (the damage is at the bottom corner of the panel). I am more and more interested in whether some kind of moulding could be made to cover the damaged area, so that it looks good cosmetically and no drastic measures need be taken. The damage to my van won't go down that road as it will need doing before the onset of winter. I had it out this week and because of damage to light lens I have problems of dodgy connections to my side light and brake light. will keep you posted on the avenue I go down with repair and the repair itself.

 

I have had a new rear panel fitted to a 1997 Avondale, you couldn't see any sign of a repair, and 7 years on it hadn't leaked.

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snapback.pngrodders68, on 19 October 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

 

hi zen have you had any joy with your repair?

we would all benefit if you have.

let us know.

 

cheers rodders B)

 

Hello all, the repair has now been done and although I've not been down to pick up my van, the pictures I have seen look superb. I ended up taking it to READS, I suppose mainly because their quote was favoured by my insurers and also because they were doing it without removing the panel.

READS asked if it would be ok if they put photos on their website, which I have no objections.

Anyone wishing to view can visit their site and click on aftersales and click repair shop on subheading.

Their site is http://www. readcaravans. com/

I must say that the damage looked worse than I first thought when you see the first pic. (mines the ranger 510/4)

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I guess daughter will not be using it for some time. Why is it if you borrow something, something will go wrong with it?

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I guess daughter will not be using it for some time. Why is it if you borrow something, something will go wrong with it?

 

I'm not really a materialistic kind of person, although I do try and take care of things, so if they want to borrow the van they can. But I might put a big rubber bumper round it before they do. :D

But you're right in what you say (sods law). Put it down to the joys of caravanning.

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Have to say the Reads repair looks marvellous. Would you mind sharing what that cost ?

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