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Knowing that according to BMW, the BMW X5 Auto needs additional cooling which can cost a lot of money, I was concerned whether this applied to the new X3.

 

I emailed BMW Technical services and asked - 'If I am going to use the BMW X3 for towing a caravan in this country and in Europe. (with either a BMW supplied towbracket or an after market tow bracket): Does the X3 require any modification over and above the towbracket and wiring electrics? eg Auto fluid cooling or oil cooling.'

 

 

BMW's response -'I can confirm that the information I have received from the BMW Technical Department is that no further modifications for cooling are required for towing on the BMW X3'

 

So that's a relief.

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I would keep that Email for proof if you have engine or transmission problems because BMW technical department say different here .

 

 

 

http://www. honestjohn. co. uk/forum/post/index. htm?t=83314

 

 

 

Dave

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Knowing that according to BMW, the BMW X5 Auto needs additional cooling which can cost a lot of money, I was concerned whether this applied to the new X3.

 

I emailed BMW Technical services and asked - 'If I am going to use the BMW X3 for towing a caravan in this country and in Europe. (with either a BMW supplied towbracket or an after market tow bracket): Does the X3 require any modification over and above the towbracket and wiring electrics? eg Auto fluid cooling or oil cooling.'

 

 

BMW's response -'I can confirm that the information I have received from the BMW Technical Department is that no further modifications for cooling are required for towing on the BMW X3'

 

So that's a relief.

 

Good, the x3, santa fe, and xtrail or all on my next car list.

 

Unfortunately the X3 sits in 3rd place due to the lack of spare wheel.

 

Can you tow with the run flat tyres, with a puncture. ?

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Can you tow with the run flat tyres, with a puncture. ?

I have talked to people who have had punctures with run flats and they say it just drives as normal as a car but not seen anyone towing as yet.

 

The runflats are designed for the full axle load of the vehicle so the answer for towing must be yes, provided you are not overloaded and even then maybe.

 

At least I hope so as thats all I've got.

 

Brian

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I have talked to people who have had punctures with run flats and they say it just drives as normal as a car but not seen anyone towing as yet.

 

The runflats are designed for the full axle load of the vehicle so the answer for towing must be yes, provided you are not overloaded and even then maybe.

 

At least I hope so as thats all I've got.

 

Brian

 

Thanks Brian

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It's a great towcar and I can confirm that at 42 deg in Portugal it coped easily. I have covered 31k miles in 18 months including over 5000 miles towing with no problems of any sort except I had to get the 13 pin plug wired fully as it was not done on delivery. Towing on a space saver or run flat tyre is permissible but having tried both I think runflats are expensive as I don't get any tyre repaired and see no advantage to them.

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Run flat tyres give an extremely harsh and 'choppy' ride as well as having a reduced service life in comparison to a non-runflat equivalent, both of these factors being due to the far stiffer sidewalls on runflat tyres. They are also far more expensive than a conventional tyre.

 

An acquaintance of mine had a BMW 335d with Bridgestone (225/35x19 91Y) runflats on the front that had worn down to the minimum tread depth on the inside edges of the tread after only 4,000 miles. He was quoted £805 by his local BMW dealer to replace both front tyres! Needless to say he declined, and for less than half of the quoted runflat price, purchased two Goodyear tyres, together with a tube of "Slime" and a 12volt tyre inflater. ("Slime" is a water-soluble instant puncture repair sealant that does not prevent the tyre from being repaired 'properly'. It is carried and used by all AA patrols). Apart from saving his money, he now reports having a much more comfortable ride, and that the steering feel less 'twitchy'. He can't wait for the rear tyres to require replacement!

 

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David

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My daily commuter is a fun little Mini Cooper 02 plate on 17" branded runflats.

 

I've had 2 punctures in the past 2 months, costing £175 each time.

 

However, the punctures both occurred on the A46 and I experienced no immediate loss of control, only a warning indicator from the dash.

 

Slowed down to 50mph and carried on to my local garage, about 10 miles away. Gradually the tyres started pulling the steering and the ride worsened.

 

The first time I made it to the garage without any significant effects to handling, but the second time I could hear the tyre flailing and steering was very difficult towards the end but I made it.

 

Although expensive, I would not cut corners by replacing runflats with regular tyres, especially if the car was designed to use them.

 

They may be firmer, more expensive and not last as long, but I was glad I had them when one of the punctures happened on a long, wet, banked curve at 60mph.

 

Be safe and check manufacturer's guidelines, especially if your looking at your towcar.

 

Ben

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Looks like the X3 is of my list then.

 

Not interested in a hard ride, had one, our roads don't cope. Or paying a premium for tyres, done that as well.

 

Not interested in a can of puncture repair either.

 

I want a full sized spare.

 

I want it all! :D

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Run flat tyres give an extremely harsh and 'choppy' ride as well as having a reduced service life in comparison to a non-runflat equivalent, both of these factors being due to the far stiffer sidewalls on runflat tyres. They are also far more expensive than a conventional tyre.

 

An acquaintance of mine had a BMW 335d with Bridgestone (225/35x19 91Y) runflats on the front that had worn down to the minimum tread depth on the inside edges of the tread after only 4,000 miles. He was quoted £805 by his local BMW dealer to replace both front tyres! Needless to say he declined, and for less than half of the quoted runflat price, purchased two Goodyear tyres, together with a tube of "Slime" and a 12volt tyre inflater. ("Slime" is a water-soluble instant puncture repair sealant that does not prevent the tyre from being repaired 'properly'. It is carried and used by all AA patrols). Apart from saving his money, he now reports having a much more comfortable ride, and that the steering feel less 'twitchy'. He can't wait for the rear tyres to require replacement!

 

Regards,

David

 

Hi David, My Mrs has a 1 series BMW with the bloody awful run flat tyres. She was quoted £135 each by the local BMW dealers. I rang my local tyre service and they quoted £105 each for the same make of tyre. The wife decided to have all four done at the same time so they did them for £95 each. Worth while avoiding BMW dealers for tyres!

 

Regards, Mike

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Looks like the X3 is of my list then.

 

Not interested in a hard ride, had one, our roads don't cope. Or paying a premium for tyres, done that as well.

 

Not interested in a can of puncture repair either.

 

I want a full sized spare.

 

I want it all! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

The xtrail does'nt have a full size spare

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The xtrail does'nt have a full size spare

 

Mine has a full sized wheel, fitted with a lower rated tyre.

 

Well it did it now has a fully rated tyre.

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if you can afford 40k plus for a BumW, the cost of runflats is irrelevant . ...

 

You might think so but in reality running costs factor largely in my mind.

 

I've paid for my car, so that parts behind me, whats left now is the daily depreciation, and the cost of fuel, insurance, VED, all these things determine my car choice.

 

Sometimes things can be illogical, where the heart rules the head, for me though its the on going costs that factor greatly in any potential purchase.

 

Reliability is top of my list, as i cant tolerate the inconvenience of breakdowns, or repair costs after warranty runs out, the latter is why i'm interested in the Santa Fe.

 

The X3 is available nearer £30k, so not a deal different to a Santa Fe, or xtrail, after depreciation is taken into consideration.

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Don't buy anything by Tata, sorry, Land Rover if you want reliability. The Santa Fe and Xtrail are simply too gutless and don't handle.

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Knowing that according to BMW, the BMW X5 Auto needs additional cooling which can cost a lot of money, I was concerned whether this applied to the new X3.

 

I emailed BMW Technical services and asked - 'If I am going to use the BMW X3 for towing a caravan in this country and in Europe. (with either a BMW supplied towbracket or an after market tow bracket): Does the X3 require any modification over and above the towbracket and wiring electrics? eg Auto fluid cooling or oil cooling.'

 

 

BMW's response -'I can confirm that the information I have received from the BMW Technical Department is that no further modifications for cooling are required for towing on the BMW X3'

 

So that's a relief.

Wee word of warning concerning the X3, Good friend of mine bought one last year low milage, diese,l minted,It completely lost the drive one rainy afternoon with no warning what so ever. it had to be lifted on to a trailer and brought home. gearbox gubbed. For a new one BMW wanted telephone numbers ££. not a second hand one to be had the length and breadth of the U. K. he got in touch with a gearbox specialist in Edinburgh, who instantly diagnosed the problem over the phone,(which makes me think its common) as electronic, and gave him two quotes depending on what exactly was wrong, £1200, and £2,200, a one day fix if he brought the car to the garage. Of course it was the £2200 Job. but it was sorted and running that day,and sold by the end of the week.

Stevenj

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We all have a friend with a tale of woe.

 

Simply posting a warning to anyone thinking of buying one ! thats what this is about ! Sorry if I touched a nerve by casting dispersions on your pride and joy. and I honestly hope it does not happen to you especially with the Van hitched up. Just for the record said friend bought an Audi estate 4wheel drive, and he reckons its twice the tow car of the BM. and for its worth so do I.

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"The Santa Fe and Xtrail are simply too gutless and don't handle."

 

 

Have you actually driven either of those cars?

The current Santa Fe goes like @#{:content:}amp; off a shovel and handles very well for a big car!

 

Don't suppose he's driven an LR either, can't fault mine, solo, towing and especially in the snow (winters coming :D )

 

Mine actually came from a Hyundai dealership and chose it after driving their own offerings as I personally found them too soft, but thats the point "personally".

 

No matter what car you suggest somebody will slag it off, another will say its the best. The Vauxhall Frontera had an atrocious reputation but they are still about, thousands of Mondeos were sold, I wouldn't buy one, I quite liked the X-Trail but the limited auto box was no use for me.

 

Of course you could always buy a Ka :)

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"The Santa Fe and Xtrail are simply too gutless and don't handle."

 

 

Have you actually driven either of those cars?

The current Santa Fe goes like @#$& off a shovel and handles very well for a big car!

 

Yes but it doesn't have a 3. 5 litre BMW engine. Thats what he comparing them too, which is pretty pointless really?

 

It was the 2L i was interested in.

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