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Hi all

 

I have got a few things to do to my caravan before we start using it this season.

I have seen posts about external Gas connections for a Gas BBQ.

Is it Possible to set-up a external gas connection that will run from the front, as I am doubling my gas capacity in the next few weeks.

I want to get a Gas BBQ, running an extra connection would not be a problem.

The thing is can I buy all the parts from the local caravan shop to do the job.

 

Camper chappie

 

Peter

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Is that safe do you think

 

Hi Yung

 

That is what I want to ask the people on here, I really don't see a problem if I do it Properly.

The Thing is I am going to be changing the gas circulation in the not to distant future.

From one Propane bottle to two, thus evening out the weight across the front, I have all the bits, regulator with gas monitor, and the switch to change over the bottles also the regulation hose.

I like the idea of having a connection point so when I have BBQ's I can do it away from the awning.

 

But if it is not possible, I will forget it.

 

Camper Chappie

 

Peter

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Not quite sure what you mean. ..do you only want to fit an external BBQ point and need the parts for that, or something more

You can use your local dealer for the fittings but www. caravanparts. net 01482 874878 have the main BBQ point to fit the side of your van at a better price.

One thing I would say is most dealers seem to be selling a 6mm snap in hose connector for the BBQ point, when all the BBQ's use 8mm pipe??. I keep seeing hoses crushed to death trying to make them seal on these wrong sized connectors. .it really is bad news.

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Not quite sure what you mean. ..do you only want to fit an external BBQ point and need the parts for that, or something more

 

Hi Arc

 

Yes you are right I want to buy the parts and then when I am doing all the other work, fit the external connections for the BBQ.

Then when I have all my Family and Friends at the caravan, set the BBQ up.

 

I have all the Parts to change the Propane bottles. (see earlier post)

The thing is your post has helped me already regarding the snap in hose connection.

 

That is what I was looking at, thank you for you advice.

 

Camper Chappie

 

Peter

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One thing I would say is most dealers seem to be selling a 6mm snap in hose connector for the BBQ point, when all the BBQ's use 8mm pipe??. I keep seeing hoses crushed to death trying to make them seal on these wrong sized connectors. .it really is bad news.

 

Interesting you should say that as our van has an external gas point and as you say the snap on connector is too small for the standard gas pipe. However our local dealer (Riverside Caravans, Stoney Stratford) sold me a different one that fitted and it only cost a couple of pounds.

 

I have to say we only use the external socket occasionally as we have a two burner stove and grill which use in hot weather. Incidentally purchased from the Calor Gas website, good price and quick delivery.

 

David

David - Milton Keynes

Bailey Alliance 66-2 Motorhome for holidays and a Kia Venga for home.

 

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Only problem with fixed bbq point is you're restricted when the wind is in the wrong direction

I just use my spare bottle :blink::blink::blink:

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The other problem with the outside barbecue points is they are usually on the awning side and as you are supposed to not have pipe longer than 1. 5metres how are you supposed to cook outside of awning when the awning is up?

I thought about it . ..then decided it was simpler to just use my other gas bottle.

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Only problem with fixed bbq point is you're restricted when the wind is in the wrong direction

I just use my spare bottle :blink:  :blink:  :blink:

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The other problem with the outside barbecue points is they are usually on the awning side and as you are supposed to not have pipe longer than 1. 5metres how are you supposed to cook outside of awning when the awning is up?

I thought about it . ..then decided it was simpler to just use my other gas bottle.

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First their is no restriction on the amount of hose you can buy or use. ..I can fully understand the reasoning behind reluctance to sell long lengths but the law does not come into it. The actually rule is, 'The hose should be kept as short as reasonable possible'. If you do buy a long length then fasten it down to the ground while in use with tent pegs to prevent accidents. ..particularly were kids are running around.

Cadac's I know suffer from wind and I was at first horrified to hear of one solution, that is dropping a toilet roll tube over the stem so it rests on the gas knob at the bottom??. This prevents the wind blowing 'though' the slots which are at this point but does not restrict normal flow and allows the gas and primary air to go where it should. ..to the burner.

Essentially it is a crude idea but appears to have good results.

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I have just bought a Cadac ( or should I say it was bought for me at Christmas) and the new stems have a plastic sleeve that you can lower over the hole.

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It would appear then Cadac has given it's official approval to the idea??

Don't rush out to buy a new one. ..wait for the next toilet roll change

:D

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But in the instructions under Safety information it says "Do not cover up or change the air slots in the stem as this may affect the performance and lead to an unstable flame."

So follow that logic if you can.

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It makes perfect sense.

The gas jet is just inside those slots, LPG (gas) is heavier than air so relies on the air coming in though the slots to carry it up to the burner. .this is called 'primary' air, this mix of primary air and gas is required for the gas to ignite. In this case a wind blowing 'though' the slots is taking the gas anywhere other than to the burner.

If you block the slots, (as it rightly says not to), so no air can get in, then the gas can only travel up because it is confined and also as no air is mixed with it, it cannot ignite when it gets to the burner. ..safely!!...there would be a hell of a bang if it did!!!

The 'shroud' then stops the wind blowing though but allows the required air to pass so the system continues to work as it should in a wind.

I assume the supplied shroud is bigger than the diameter of the stem so stops the wind passing though without preventing enough air in to do it's job. ..much the same as the toilet roll tube!

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Yes there will be quite a gap at the bottom. Well explained. i wonder if this will stop people grumbling about them going out?

In safety info it also talks about what to do if there is "light back" - where the flame burns back and ignites at the jet. Do you know what would cause this to happen? It sounds scarey!

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Yes there will be quite a gap at the bottom. Well explained. i wonder if this will stop people grumbling about them going out?

In safety info it also talks about what to do if there is "light back" - where the flame burns back and ignites at the jet. Do you know what would cause this to happen? It sounds scarey!

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The first answer is simple. ..yes. .for the most part anyway

The second is more complicated, the obvious one is putting a match to the jet, but any source of ignition would have the same effect. I did sort out Roadrunners over new year that was 'smoking' badly due to a thoughly blocked burner, (after several years use)...it could be possible that if this got worse then a better area for ignition would be at the jet causing it to burn back down the tube?.

Moral is when cleaning don't get the burner wet as only the top is stainless and the part below will corrode and block up.

It's good to be warned of possibles but with due care I very much doubt it is any more dangerous than any other gas appliance.

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