caralot Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hello. I am a new member. Please could any one help with this problem. I have just purchesd 2007 coachman 380, my problem is that igniting the fire using the piezo electric dose not work, I have lit the pilot using a match and it works fine, but when I use th piezo it dose not apear to give off enough spark, I wonder if this indicates the the piezo is duff. Would apreciate any help. Thanks Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerL Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Is your main 12v electric control set properly? Do you have a 12v battery installed? The main 12v switch in my caravan can select battery power from caravan/off/car - on one ocassion, it was inadvertently moved to off - _ only discovered as the cooker piezo igniters wouldn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beejay Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hello. I am a new member. Please could any one help with this problem. I have just purchesd 2007 coachman 380, my problem is that igniting the fire using the piezo electric dose not work, I have lit the pilot using a match and it works fine, but when I use th piezo it dose not apear to give off enough spark, Thanks Allan How can you light the FIRE with a match, it's a sealed unit? Do you mean the cooker hob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecandsarahb Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 beejay, if he has the same fire as me you can unscrew the pilot light window and put a match in here, ive done it but i dont recomend it, do you have the push igniter or the posh electric one, which id love to have, mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechSteve Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 The fire has its own indipendant power source that runs of a 1. 5 v AA battery, you need to test the battery /relpace or the generator that makes the spark has failed, you should not under any circumstances remove the mica glass as under neath it is a wafer thin gasket that prevents the fire spilling fumes into the caravan, once the gasket has been disturbed you must fit a new one, failing that get a Truma trained person to rectify your s3002 fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caralot Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Is your main 12v electric control set properly? Do you have a 12v battery installed? The main 12v switch in my caravan can select battery power from caravan/off/car - on one ocassion, it was inadvertently moved to off - _ only discovered as the cooker piezo igniters wouldn't work. Hi Rogerl Thanks for the reply, My battery is fine, I have lit it using a match thus proving the gas supply is fine. The caravan is only two years old and the previous owner never used the fire with gas. The piezo start is the presure type not the one with a 1. 5v battery in. Iwill persevear and I am sure I will crack it eventually. Thank you to all that was kind enough to reply. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechSteve Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hi RogerlThanks for the reply, My battery is fine, I have lit it using a match thus proving the gas supply is fine. The caravan is only two years old and the previous owner never used the fire with gas. The piezo start is the presure type not the one with a 1. 5v battery in. Iwill persevear and I am sure I will crack it eventually. Thank you to all that was kind enough to reply. Allan get the fire into a dealers and have it fixed properly, its not a thing to be played with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arc Systems Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) First, lighting this type sealed fire with a match is indeed folly to say the very least, infact it's plain stupid!! From that point of view, I would also strongly suggest you've already gone to far and you now need to get the fire checked professionally to ensure it's safe to use once it's fixed However and for those with a similar problem, this fire is manual 'piezo' ignition which requires pressing a button to get a spark, at two years old the piezo should be fine so I would first doubt that's the problem in itself. What I thinks the problem is the piezo earth connection, this is a 'tab' of brass sticking out of the body of the piezo which needs to be touching one of the louvres on the fire front. The fire front then needs to be in contact with a wire spring that's connected to the fires base plate by the side of the gas valve. Think of the piezo as a battery, a battery needs a positive feed and a negative return back to the battery, the ignition wire is positive direct to the burners spark electrode, the two connection of the 'piezo to fire front' and 'fire front to base plate' complete the circuit back. Edited March 30, 2009 by Arc Systems Quote Arc Systems are specialist Carver caravan product repairers, committed to providing a comprehensive service as well as spare parts for these popular heaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerL Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Caralot - When I first answered your post, I thought you were talking about the cooker as that's the only appliance that can normally be lit with matches - I missed the fact that your query is about the fire. Tradetech and Arc Systems have rightly pointed out the folly of your ways in opening the fire to light it so get it dealt with properly by a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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