john1944 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I am new to caravanning and have had the propane option in case Alpine travelling involves temperature drops. I understand that propane is widely available in Europe, but that there is a problem in Germany and Austria where the connections are not the same as elsewhere. Can someone tell me please if an adaptor is available so that bottles from these countries can be used. Could someone give me an idea as to how long I would expect a 6kg gas bottle to last, assuming 2 hours heating a day, and use of 2 stove burners and the oven for about 1 hour per day. Just a rough figure please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kde Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 name='john1944' date='Mar 13 2009, 09:36 PM' post='238413']I am new to caravanning and have had the propane option in case Alpine travelling involves temperature drops. I understand that propane is widely available in Europe, but that there is a problem in Germany and Austria where the connections are not the same as elsewhere. Can someone tell me please if an adaptor is available so that bottles from these countries can be used. Could someone give me an idea as to how long I would expect a 6kg gas bottle to last, assuming 2 hours heating a day, and use of 2 stove burners and the oven for about 1 hour per day. Just a rough figure please Hi, dont have technical info, but we generally get most of a caravan season out of a 6kilo propane, including heavy use of the cadac bbq. when we go to france for 3 weeks, we havent yet used up a full bottle but usually take 2 full bottles just to be sure hope this helps Quote Kevin Vauxhall Insignia SRi Nav 160 Auto, 2013 Bailey Unicorn 2 Valencia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD 42 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I am new to caravanning and have had the propane option in case Alpine travelling involves temperature drops. I understand that propane is widely available in Europe, but that there is a problem in Germany and Austria where the connections are not the same as elsewhere. Can someone tell me please if an adaptor is available so that bottles from these countries can be used. Could someone give me an idea as to how long I would expect a 6kg gas bottle to last, assuming 2 hours heating a day, and use of 2 stove burners and the oven for about 1 hour per day. Just a rough figure please HI John try gaslow's website http://www. gaslow. co. uk/pages/products/list_1. htm they dont list a gas connector for germany but if you give them a call they can probably advise however 6weeks in france in may/june we still had some left in a 7kg butane bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan J Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I am new to caravanning and have had the propane option in case Alpine travelling involves temperature drops. I understand that propane is widely available in Europe, but that there is a problem in Germany and Austria where the connections are not the same as elsewhere. Can someone tell me please if an adaptor is available so that bottles from these countries can be used. Could someone give me an idea as to how long I would expect a 6kg gas bottle to last, assuming 2 hours heating a day, and use of 2 stove burners and the oven for about 1 hour per day. Just a rough figure please Hi I did some tests on this last season in order to guestimate how much gas I would need for a 3 month trip around Europe. I had purchased BP Gas Light which APPEARED to be available but it turns out that you cannot exchange UK bottles and the connectors are different anyway. My tests per day were with use of gas without EHU - Fridge, Hot Water, Gas Rings, 2 hrs heating, Cadac BBQ 0. 5kg per day. On EHU (16 Amp) Gas rings, BBQ, some top up gas heating 0. 25kg per day max. For my trip I am taking 2 x 10kg bottles and an empty Camping Gas 907 cylinder as an emergency backup. I will be running for a month non EHU so it is the Fridge that will be the heavier usage at 270g per 24 hrs. Hope this helps Alan Quote Alan JBailey Pageant S6 Bordeaux Tow Car BMW X5 3. 0D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beejay Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) I am new to caravanning and have had the propane option in case Alpine travelling involves temperature drops. I understand that propane is widely available in Europe, but that there is a problem in Germany and Austria where the connections are not the same as elsewhere. Can someone tell me please if an adaptor is available so that bottles from these countries can be used. Could someone give me an idea as to how long I would expect a 6kg gas bottle to last, assuming 2 hours heating a day, and use of 2 stove burners and the oven for about 1 hour per day. Just a rough figure please You don't state what regulator you have, is it a bulkhead mounted and high pressure pigtail version or a bottle mounted POL propane type? Germany uses only 11 kg propane bottles for caravans with a specific connector called KLF. You will get an HP hose or a regulator to use a German bottle from a German caravan Dealer. Gas usage is difficult to estimate as many caravanners use electric where possible. You don't mention fridge or water heating which can be gas or electric. Unless you are confident in dealing with a German Dealer it may be better if you stayed with U. K. gas. A 5 kg propane should last two weeks at least but how long is a piece of string? Edited March 15, 2009 by beejay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1944 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 You don't state what regulator you have, is it a bulkhead mounted and high pressure pigtail version or a bottle mounted POL propane type?Germany uses only 11 kg propane bottles for caravans with a specific connector called KLF. You will get an HP hose or a regulator to use a German bottle from a German caravan Dealer. Gas usage is difficult to estimate as many caravanners use electric where possible. You don't mention fridge or water heating which can be gas or electric. Unless you are confident in dealing with a German Dealer it may be better if you stayed with U. K. gas. A 5 kg propane should last two weeks at least but how long is a piece of string? Thanks everyone for your help. I do have two 6 kg. propane bottles and it is a new caravan with a bulkhead fitted regulator. The suppliers state you should only change a gas bottle when it is completely empty, so with this in mind you could effectively be running on only one bottle. Is this a strict practise, or is it o. k. to exchange a bottle which still has some gas in it if you are embarking on a long holiday ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The duck Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 When we went to Holland last year our van had a gas leak around the cooker. So we had heave y use of gas after we isolated the cooker but we were able to go to get our Uk gas bottle refilled whilst in holland no problem I don't know wether you can do this in germany or austria, maybe you coulsd contact the site you are staying at and ask if they know and ask for the local gas refiiling station and ask direct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan J Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Thanks everyone for your help. I do have two 6 kg. propane bottles and it is a new caravan with a bulkhead fitted regulator. The suppliers state you should only change a gas bottle when it is completely empty, so with this in mind you could effectively be running on only one bottle. Is this a strict practise, or is it o. k. to exchange a bottle which still has some gas in it if you are embarking on a long holiday ?? Well put it this way if I still have some gas in the bottle it will get changed prior to leaving on my trip regardless what they want. Will probably use it up on the BBQ at home to use up any remaining. Essential for me to start with 2 full bottles. Quote Alan JBailey Pageant S6 Bordeaux Tow Car BMW X5 3. 0D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan leslie Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 could always change to Calor Lite - either 2 x 10 kilo bottles or 1 x 10 & 1 x 5 kilo - no heavier than Calor but obviously have to pay the initial charge for the bottles. Quote Bessacarr Cameo 525 towed by SsangYong Rexton 2.2 auto in Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan leslie Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 could always change to Calor Lite - either 2 x 10 kilo bottles or 1 x 10 & 1 x 5 kilo - no heavier than Calor but obviously have to pay the initial charge for the bottles. sorry - ignore above post - meant to say BP Lite!!!! Quote Bessacarr Cameo 525 towed by SsangYong Rexton 2.2 auto in Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The duck Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 sorry - ignore above post - meant to say BP Lite!!!! There is an offer in this months cc mag to get £10 off ( Yep I got Mine ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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