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. .......But i have done a search on batteries and there doesn't seem to be anything similar to my problem

 

So my problem is that I had the 'van serviced last week and the guy said my battery is dead So I ring up the dealer where I bought the 'van last year as the battery is only a year old (2 year manufacturers warranty)He said bring it to us (60 mile round trip) and we'll put it on charge So thinks I if that's all he's going to do I can do that so I did for 4 days kept checking to make sure the charger/battery were not getting hot The window on top of the battery is saying it is fully charged So a couple of days later I run it down to Kwikfit and get them to check it guess what they say the battery is dead too Soo I rang the dealer and he said bring it to us and we will check it I managed to get to the dealer today and i watched him do the test and lo and behold battery is fine so I have 2 people saying the battery is dead and the dealer and the battery saying it's Ok

 

 

So what give is the battery dead or what

 

Regards confused Steve

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. .......But i have done a search on batteries and there doesn't seem to be anything similar to my problem

 

So my problem is that I had the 'van serviced last week and the guy said my battery is dead So I ring up the dealer where I bought the 'van last year as the battery is only a year old (2 year manufacturers warranty)He said bring it to us (60 mile round trip) and we'll put it on charge So thinks I if that's all he's going to do I can do that so I did for 4 days kept checking to make sure the charger/battery were not getting hot The window on top of the battery is saying it is fully charged So a couple of days later I run it down to Kwikfit and get them to check it guess what they say the battery is dead too Soo I rang the dealer and he said bring it to us and we will check it I managed to get to the dealer today and i watched him do the test and lo and behold battery is fine so I have 2 people saying the battery is dead and the dealer and the battery saying it's Ok

So what give is the battery dead or what

 

Regards confused Steve

If it is any concelation had a simmilair thing last year, went to the storage yard and control panel was showing nothing in the battery, tried lights, nothing. Took the battery out, green indicator showed fine but chwecked accross terminals showed 11. 5volts.

put it on a slow trickle charge and after 2 days still nothing. So got a new battery.

Put old battery in the shed and forgot about it till 2 months ago, put it on charge and guess what it took the charge. 2 months later and its been in the shed and still fully charged. It has me baffled, but at least I now have a spare battery.

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Get a battery hydrometer £3 it will tell you if you have any dead cells in the battery

Then you can tell how your battery is good or bad

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now im not saying they battery is any good but, kwik fit do not have the proper tools to check a caravan battery as the tools they have for testing a battery will be a drop tester which checks to see if it has the power to start a car.

have you checked how many volts the battery charger is putting out as i found out this weekend my car battery charger only puts out 12. 8 volts, so not to good really, mike

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now im not saying they battery is any good but, kwik fit do not have the proper tools to check a caravan battery as the tools they have for testing a battery will be a drop tester which checks to see if it has the power to start a car.

have you checked how many volts the battery charger is putting out as i found out this weekend my car battery charger only puts out 12. 8 volts, so not to good really, mike

 

Will check that when I've finished work on Saturday thanks Mike

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. .......But i have done a search on batteries and there doesn't seem to be anything similar to my problem

 

So my problem is that I had the 'van serviced last week and the guy said my battery is dead So I ring up the dealer where I bought the 'van last year as the battery is only a year old (2 year manufacturers warranty)He said bring it to us (60 mile round trip) and we'll put it on charge So thinks I if that's all he's going to do I can do that so I did for 4 days kept checking to make sure the charger/battery were not getting hot The window on top of the battery is saying it is fully charged So a couple of days later I run it down to Kwikfit and get them to check it guess what they say the battery is dead too Soo I rang the dealer and he said bring it to us and we will check it I managed to get to the dealer today and i watched him do the test and lo and behold battery is fine so I have 2 people saying the battery is dead and the dealer and the battery saying it's Ok

So what give is the battery dead or what

 

Regards confused Steve

 

How did the dealer check the battery?

 

what you need is a regulated power supply, with 14. 5 volts, and read off what amps are being drawn, then after a few hours

you need to do what they call a drop test (not dropping it on the floor) and see if it maintains a certain voltage with a given

load.

 

Just a quick point, is the PSU ok in the caravan?

 

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He used a Sealy battery tester and i watched him do it He put the croc clips on the batt which read just over 12v he then pressed a switch on the side of the meter counted for a few seconds the voltage went down but came back up when he released the switch Sorry not to techy when it comes to batts

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If this was KwikFit . ....

 

He used a Sealy battery tester and i watched him do it He put the croc clips on the batt which read just over 12v he then pressed a switch on the side of the meter counted for a few seconds the voltage went down but came back up when he released the switch Sorry not to techy when it comes to batts

 

That is a test for a car engine cranking battery . .. high load over a short time. your leisure battery is designed to do the opposite . .. small load over a long time . ...

 

So once again the Quack Fat idiots are wrong . . as they don't actually have a clue what they are doing (other than trying to sell you a new battery).

 

If you don't know how, or don't have the equipment (a decent multi-meter and an old headlight bulb), then I would suggest you take it to a caravan servicing dealer and ask them to check it. At least they will understand what a leisure battery is . . but might still wish to try and sell you a new one . ..

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It was the caravan dealer who used the sealy tester Kwikfit used a tester but i didn't watch so not sure what he did But neither tried to sell me a new battery in fact the dealer was quite pleased the battery was OK as he had a lot of grief from the make (Diamond)

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It was the caravan dealer who used the sealy tester Kwikfit used a tester but i didn't watch so not sure what he did But neither tried to sell me a new battery in fact the dealer was quite pleased the battery was OK as he had a lot of grief from the make (Diamond)

Just to update got my next door neighbour to test the battery and lo and behold its reading 12. 84volts So I went and bought myself a new multimeter left the battery sitting in the shed for over a month put the multi on it and its reading 12. 71v so I put it on charge and its absolutely fine charge went back up to 12. 8v So next year I'm going to tell the service man just to ignore the battery as I can sort that myself LOL

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A good way to check a leisure batttery is to fully charge it, then apply a small load for several hours whilst keeping an eye on the voltage. A 24w bulb should draw 2amps so a 110amp hour battery should keep it continuously lit for 55 hours before failing. The voltage should be allowed to fall much below 12v before ending the test, to avoid reducing the life of the battery.

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A specialist battery seller will have the equipment to test a battery correctly and more importantly interpret the results correctly.

Kwik-fit I would not trust to hold the equipment never mind use it, a caravan dealer with all due respect may fall into the same category?!

 

As for drop testers that are now so frowned upon, in truth and in the right hands can tell all (most) you need to know

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