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Hi all, i'm trying to work out the towing ratio of my outfit by using whattowcar. com and my van isn't listed (93 Swift Corvette). I can pick a similar sized van from the options and change the weight but in the caravan handbook it only lists two weights which are Ex-works weight at 840kg and Max authorised weight. Does ex-works mean the same as MIRO and Max authorised mean the same as MTPLM?

 

Any help appreciated.

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Hi all, i'm trying to work out the towing ratio of my outfit by using whattowcar. com and my van isn't listed (93 Swift Corvette). I can pick a similar sized van from the options and change the weight but in the caravan handbook it only lists two weights which are Ex-works weight at 840kg and Max authorised weight. Does ex-works mean the same as MIRO and Max authorised mean the same as MTPLM?

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Hi,

Basically yes that sums it up. Ex works and MRO are the weight of the empty 'van and the Max authorised weight and the MTPLM is the max weight of the 'van when loaded. To find out the payload subtract the larger weight from the smaller,

Regards,

Ian.

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Hi,

Basically yes that sums it up. Ex works and MRO are the weight of the empty 'van and the Max authorised weight and the MTPLM is the max weight of the 'van when loaded. To find out the payload subtract the larger weight from the smaller,

Regards,

Ian.

Thanks very much for clarifying that Ian!

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Hi,

Did you spot my deliberate mistake? Obviously you should subtract the smaller weight from the larger not vice versa :D,

regards,

Ian.

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The problem with the "ex works weight" is that it doesn't include the gas bottle(s) and the battery! what you really need to do is to load the van with all the "essentials" then take it to your local weigh bridge & find out what it realy weighs excluding all the stuff thats not normally included such as food, clothing etc

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The problem with the "ex works weight" is that it doesn't include the gas bottle(s) and the battery! what you really need to do is to load the van with all the "essentials" then take it to your local weigh bridge & find out what it realy weighs excluding all the stuff thats not normally included such as food, clothing etc

 

Hi George,

Good advice and I would add that the fully laden 'van should be weighed to gain a true picture of the laden weight. I was suprised when we took ours as I thought we had plenty of spare capacity wereas we found there was little spare in reality,

Regards,

Ian.

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There is one proviso to both being the same, in 93 extras could well have been fitted after leaving the factory, these would include most of the heavier things fitted as standard today such as fridge, oven and water heater.

 

In which case ex-works was just that and took no account of extra weight added later to arrive at an actual MIRO

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There is one proviso to both being the same, in 93 extras could well have been fitted after leaving the factory, these would include most of the heavier things fitted as standard today such as fridge, oven and water heater.

 

In which case ex-works was just that and took no account of extra weight added later to arrive at an actual MIRO

But a similar situation exists today - fitting a motor mover (37kg)and upgrading the battery (15>28kg) to cope can easily add 50kg to the weight of a caravan - I doubt that many caravanners reduce their personal payload by the same amount to keep the caravan within it's MTPLM.

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Hi Roger,

that's why it's sensible to have the 'van weighed so you know the true figures, or as close as possible taking into account the weighbridge's possible discrepancy,

Regards,

Ian.

Bailey Unicorn Vigo and a 2017 Ford S Max and a Mercedes SLK AMG Sport 9 speed, my mid life crisis solver.

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But a similar situation exists today - fitting a motor mover (37kg)and upgrading the battery (15>28kg) to cope can easily add 50kg to the weight of a caravan - I doubt that many caravanners reduce their personal payload by the same amount to keep the caravan within it's MTPLM.

 

Roger, Not sure if all manufacturers can do it but I have just had my MTPLM increased to cover the installation of 4 motor movers !!

 

Gerry

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Roger, Not sure if all manufacturers can do it but I have just had my MTPLM increased to cover the installation of 4 motor movers !!

 

Gerry

 

Hi Gerry,

Bailey do but not on all models of 'van,

Regards,

Ian.

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