TD 42 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I have a 2005 series 5 pagent Champaign to which I have fitted with Bailey approval 185/80/14 102Q tyres. I would like to increase the MTPLM of 1360kg if possible. Has anyone done this & what else needs to be done to achieve it also can any one explain what "mass of essential habitation equipment " means & what it includes? also why/ what is the "the payload allowance for optional equipment" for? I have always accepted that the difference between the MRO & the MTPLM was the max you had for payload,inc of battery, gas, mover etc Infact anything you put in or on the van extra to what was on it when it left the factory& am confused as to what the other allowances are for Thankyou for any reply's TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerL Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Under EN1645, caravan payloads have to comply with certain minimums. The Essential Habitation Equipment (EHE) includes battery, gas cylinders (90% full), electric cable, step, 90% fluids in water heater, toilet flush and any on-board fresh-water tank. The Payload Allowance for Personal Effects is a minimum figure based on the number of berths and internal length of the caravan. The Payload Allowance for Optional Equipment is to make provision for any factory-fit options. Any caravan can, of course, have a bigger payload than the minimum if the manufacturer so chooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Caravan manufacturers do tend to rate their caravans less than the theoretical maximum load to allow for a wider choice of tow vehicles. Thus it is usually possible to increase the load rating. To do this, you need to contact Bailey, who will tell you what you can go up to and will provide a new load rating label to stick over the existing one. There is a charge for this which I believe is in the order of £50. You will also have to increase the tyre pressures to cater for the higher load. If you look on your tyres, you will see a maximum load figure and also a maximum tyre pressure. This will give you some idea of what you can go up to. Obviously you cannot go higher than these figures. It might even be necessary to fit new tyres with a higher load index. It might be sensible to do this anyway as yours are four years old and the recommendation is to change at five years regardless of tread wear. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hi TD 42, This thread went into this a while back See here Not sure if the list is still current though. Living the dream, well more of a nightmare ~ Griff Wheels at the front ~ Discovery 4 Towing Machine Wheels at the back ~ 4 of ‘em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD 42 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Caravan manufacturers do tend to rate their caravans less than the theoretical maximum load to allow for a wider choice of tow vehicles. Thus it is usually possible to increase the load rating. To do this, you need to contact Bailey, who will tell you what you can go up to and will provide a new load rating label to stick over the existing one. There is a charge for this which I believe is in the order of £50. You will also have to increase the tyre pressures to cater for the higher load. If you look on your tyres, you will see a maximum load figure and also a maximum tyre pressure. This will give you some idea of what you can go up to. Obviously you cannot go higher than these figures. It might even be necessary to fit new tyres with a higher load index. It might be sensible to do this anyway as yours are four years old and the recommendation is to change at five years regardless of tread wear. Brian I have replaced the original 195/70/14 Reinforced 95N tyres with 185/80/14 102q Tyres which is a speed increase from 87 to 100mph & a load increase from 690 to 850kg per wheel this change came down to not being able to find quality tyres at the original size & was OK'd by Bailey you can check your tyre size's & tyre pressures relative to load index at the tyresafe website http://www. tyresafe. org/data/files/caravan%2008. pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scales Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 You've sorted the tyres. All you need now is to approach Bailey (via a dealer?) and pay a few quid for an upgraded plate. I seem to remember they'll replate to 1400kgs. Scales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil and lena Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) I upgraded the the weight on my series 6 Pageant Burgundy from 1400 to 1420 kgs via my dealer at a cost of £45 and did not need to change the tyres i recieved the necessary paperwork plus a new plating certificate from Bailey currently at camping Turiscampo, Lagos, Portugal escaping the British Winter Edited February 22, 2009 by neil and lena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian dunning Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Caravan manufacturers do tend to rate their caravans less than the theoretical maximum load to allow for a wider choice of tow vehicles. Thus it is usually possible to increase the load rating. To do this, you need to contact Bailey, who will tell you what you can go up to and will provide a new load rating label to stick over the existing one. There is a charge for this which I believe is in the order of £50. You will also have to increase the tyre pressures to cater for the higher load. If you look on your tyres, you will see a maximum load figure and also a maximum tyre pressure. This will give you some idea of what you can go up to. Obviously you cannot go higher than these figures. It might even be necessary to fit new tyres with a higher load index. It might be sensible to do this anyway as yours are four years old and the recommendation is to change at five years regardless of tread wear. Brian Hi Brian, That about sums it up though with our Pageant S5 we didn't need to increase the tyre pressures, suprisingly, Regards, Ian. Bailey Unicorn Vigo and a 2017 Ford S Max and a Mercedes SLK AMG Sport 9 speed, my mid life crisis solver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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