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Getting a bit fed up of DEALERS telling me they don't work and to wait for the new Reich one in July at a cost of £1700.

 

They say they won't turn the caravan because of the resistance from the tyres.

 

Surely the Carver and Powrwheel versions work or they wouldn't sell them ??

 

Can anyone reassure me before I buy a Powrwheel ??

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We have a Truma fitted to a twin axle van. It works very well, I could not move my caravan without it. It turns the caravan around if needed, it certainly manages slight inclines. There have been several requests for information on this forum, check out them for more information.

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Getting a bit fed up of DEALERS telling me they don't work and to wait for the new Reich one in July at a cost of £1700.

 

They say they won't turn the caravan because of the resistance from the tyres.

 

Surely the Carver and Powrwheel versions work or they wouldn't sell them ??

 

Can anyone reassure me before I buy a Powrwheel ??

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Well I would think that the dealers have a point. The method of 'pulse-driving' the wheels is to give time for the tyres to relax to their newly 'scrubbed' position.

 

The Reich system is entirely different and, AFAIK, does not induce any 'tyre scrub' at all. Due to the technology employed it is going to be expensive, but probably by only ~30% over the other twin-axle movers, but way more than 30% better.

 

If I were in the market for such a mover I would not get one without, first, looking seriously at the Reich. I suspect that when it is introduced it will have quite an effect on the sales of the other two and you might then get a very good deal on them price-wise. Certainly wouldn't buy one just now.

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in my experience of the carver twin axle mover, i dont think it works that well. yes it will move it backwards and forwards and up the inclines, but you have to inch it round to turn it. its turning circle if you just try and turn in one go is about 30ft.

 

the reich one which is at the show is supposed to be completely different in its approach to turning, this is why all the dealers are waiting for this model. we are led to believe it is more superior than the caraver and the powrtouch.

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in my experience of the carver twin axle mover, i dont think it works that well. yes it will move it backwards and forwards and up the inclines, but you have to inch it round to turn it. its turning circle if you just try and turn in one go is about 30ft.

 

the reich one which is at the show is supposed to be completely different in its approach to turning, this is why all the dealers are waiting for this model. we are led to believe it is more superior than the caraver and the powrtouch.

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Yes, but it comes at a price. Basically all movers are well over priced when you look at how they are made up. Two windcreeen wiper motors could probably do a similar job on flat ground.

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Yes, but it comes at a price.   Basically all movers are well over priced when you look at how they are made up.   Two windcreeen wiper motors could probably do a similar job on flat ground.

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I really doubt that a couple of windscreen motors could move a 1500-1600kg caravan up a slope. They are expensive but with 5 year warranties the annual cost is reasonable - especially if you regularly go out [as we do]. I would not like to caravan now without a mover. It really is money well speant. However if you only use the van 2 or 3 times each year then perhaps it is not so appealing.

Mike B)

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Went to the Cravan Show at the NEC today. Reich have a demonstration of their twin axle mover on a bare chassis. It basically seems to be two movers (4 motors) with a drive on each wheel. One mover pair is mounted in front of the wheels and the other behind. I dont think you would have a problem moving a twin axle with all four wheels driving. The downsides are cost which will be almost double a single axle mover, as you are in effect buying two, and power consumption driving 4 motors so you will need a big battery.

 

Brian

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Reich will be bringing the twin axle mover to my dealership in the future so we can use it and abuse it. once we are happy with the performance, then we will be stocking them and have one on permanent demonstration here, on a twin axle chassis. just the same as our single axle reich demonstrator chassis.

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cost wise, all movers are expensive initially, but at least with the reich mover it has been designed to swop easily from caravan to caravan, catering for most different chassis. unlike the truma and powrwheel.

when you consider this initial outlay the mover will swop from caravan to caravan, as long as you want to continue caravaning. we do this quite regularly now that the reich has been out for serveral years now. so once purchased, you dont have to buy another.

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cost wise, all movers are expensive initially, but at least with the reich mover it has been designed to swop easily from caravan to caravan, catering for most different chassis. unlike the truma and powrwheel.

when you consider this initial outlay the mover will swop from caravan to caravan, as long as you want to continue caravaning. we do this quite regularly now that the reich has been out for serveral years now. so once purchased, you dont have to buy another.

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. .........err I was told that the Powrtouch can be easily moved from one van to another. (It was by the salesman and the engineer that fitted it.)

 

Are you saying that this cann't be done or that it is very difficult?

 

 

Pete.

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Thanks for replies guys - helped a lot !

 

Am probably going to have the Powrtouch model on cost grounds (£500 cheaper than reich), and I can live with the turning circle issue which seems common to all movers.

 

I was wondering how long it takes to inch round in a 90 degree turn (ie, how long will I be blocking my road to traffic !!)

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. .........err I was told that the Powrtouch can be easily moved from one van to another. (It was by the salesman and the engineer that fitted it.)

 

Are you saying that this cann't be done or that it is very difficult?

Pete.

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reich movers are easy to swop and adapt to more different chassis than the others. reich also have longer rollers which adapt to more different tyre widths.

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one downside to the powrtouch is that a lot less dealers fit them than the reich and truma. this means if you have a problem its more difficult to get it fixed, not as much choice in who will do it.

 

i know powrtouch say they will send their own engineers to repair the units at home, but these same engineers are fitting them. so you could have to wait a while before they get round to you.

 

its the old saying "you get what you pay for"

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one downside to the powrtouch is that a lot less dealers fit them than the reich and truma. this means if you have a problem its more difficult to get it fixed, not as much choice in who will do it.

 

i know powrtouch say they will send their own engineers to repair the units at home, but these same engineers are fitting them. so you could have to wait a while before they get round to you.

 

its the old saying "you get what you pay for"

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I've posted elsewhere on this. We had a problem with our powrtouch, part came immediately and Engineer to install arranged a date to suit us.

 

Great service IMHO.

 

Pete

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We had a hd Powrtouch fitted 2 weeks ago to our twin axle - it does inclines and turns with no problem (the motors drive the front pair of wheels). You can virtually turn the van on its own axis by moving backwards a bit on one lock then forwards on opposite lock, repeating as required. ..this works well notwithstanding the 'pulse' action. Was impressed with standard of fitting & care taken with placement of electrics, routing of cables etc. Made hitching up a doddle. Good job all round I'd say. Have fitted a 110ah battery to be on the safe side. Looking forward to using it now. ..

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We had a hd Powrtouch fitted 2 weeks ago to our twin axle - it does inclines and turns with no problem (the motors drive the front pair of wheels).  You can virtually turn the van on its own axis by moving backwards a bit on one lock then forwards on opposite lock, repeating as required. ..this works well notwithstanding the 'pulse' action.   Was impressed with standard of fitting & care taken with placement of electrics, routing of cables etc.   Made hitching up a doddle.   Good job all round I'd say.   Have fitted a 110ah battery to be on the safe side.   Looking forward to using it now. ..

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Thanks - you convinced me - order placed !! :D

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Well I saw the Reich Twin-axle mover, yesterday, at the NEC and was pretty impressed.

 

It uses 4 driving motors, one for each wheel, and these are cleverly controlled by a fancy electronic control box. To see a couple of pictures go to this thread.

 

Note that the motors are well in-board of the chassis and the electronics controls the drive motors in such a way as to allow very sharp 90 degree turns, with just a minimum of tyre scrub. No shuffling or pulse driving of the motors is required.

 

Weight is 62kgs, and cost is £1870 fitted. Will drive 2000kg up a 20% slope. All usual Reich features apply, as it's basically two single axle units fore and aft of the 'vans two axles.

 

This isn't the mover that I'd been led to believe would be at the show; that one is 18months to 2yrs away.

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Powrtouch is by far the best mover. If you have a twin axle van and want to turn it on an incline get it fitted to the back of the rear set of wheels this way you can raise the front of the van up to reduce friction on the front wheels.

I fit 3 or 4 movers a week, Powrtouch IS the best one.

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Mike,

 

As a fitter of said devices, what are your opinions as to the ease of theft removal of the system (at least the chassis mounted components?). Everyone harps on about how simple they are to swap from one chassis to another - in my line of work (vehicle security specialist), easy to swap in service means easy to pinch. I think I would use shear-bolts to fit one if I ever took the plunge on my Carolina.

 

Si.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I ordered a Powrtouch mover at the NEC in February. It's due to be fitted at the end of April.

I asked about security. They said the remote is keyed to the receiver. They recommend never to leave the remote with the 'van.

If the van, or mover is stolen, the receiver's serial has to be quoted to Powrtouch in order to purchase a replacement remote. They will also ask some security questions to verify the purchaser.

It seem the mover is hardly worth taking if you can't buy a remote.

Yours

Dave

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They told me similar and that before sending out replacement remote. if to a different address to mine, they would first check that I had not sold caravan

So if stolen you could possibly find out where it was

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reich movers are easy to swop and adapt to more different chassis than the others. reich also have longer rollers which adapt to more different tyre widths.

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one downside to the powrtouch is that a lot less dealers fit them than the reich and truma

 

i know powrtouch say they will send their own engineers

And they do

I think Mr_ Sheens is touting for business again

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im getting really fed up off being quoted as touting for business! i give my own personal opinion, nothing to do with the company i work for,after having had experience of these movers. i dont need to tout for business when im already busy enough. this is why i won dealership of the north of england. i look after my customers and this is why they come back and why im so busy.

 

also any postings on here are my own personal, NOT my company`s views or opinions.

 

i only offer advice so wigelywoo can stick that comment where the sun dont shine! :angry:

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I bought my Bailey Pageant Provence Series 5 from Mr_Sheens dealership last October.

 

Although I went caravanning with my parents as a youngster, this was my first purchase of a new caravan. I found the salesman answered all of my queries, with no sales pitch. I found the ladies in the shop very informative, and even recently have been given a discount on the bits I needed to buy.

 

Since receiving the caravan, the dealership has:

1. Sent a replacement pump within 1 day of the original failing

2. Ordered and fitted a replacement roof-blind, trusting my judgement that the blind wasn't quite right.

 

Two days ago, I rang to book the caravan in to have a reich motor mover fitted and they gave me a really good price.

 

When you have personal Sales and Service like this, it is no wonder that Mr_Sheens doesn't need to tout for business - indeed we travelled 1. 5 hours to visit them on a personal recommendation!

 

The Hodkys

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i only offer advice so wigelywoo can stick that comment where the sun dont shine!  :angry:

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