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Hi.

Just wondering if anyone here tows with the above vehicle.

I'm thinking of changing my Santa fe for the Volvo.

Must be the 2 wd version around 2015/17.

Caravan is 1495 MTPLM so should be well within the towing limit.(approx.78% I believe).

I've read lots of reviews on Google etc.. but would be nice to hear from an actual"real" owner/caravanner.

Many thanks.

 

 

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I had one d4 fwd 2lt 65 plate lux sat nav great towcar very comfortable drive plenty of space in the boot life time map updates only changed due to someone written off on me 

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I have the same D4 engine in my 2018 V90. It bowls along very nicely pulling a twin axle Sprite. Fuel consumption towing is around 28mpg. The 8 speed Aisin gearbox is okay but nowhere near as quick/slick as the one in my previous car (BMW520D). 

2018 Volvo V90 and 2018 Swift Sprite Quattro EB

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Thanks Colin &Gary.

Yes its the 2ltr.2 wd I'm interested in.

 

Don't really need the 4wd especially with the rising fuel costs.

 

Santa fe's a fantastic tow car but its got me thinking that with approx.3 holidays a year,I'm still having to run it for 359 days a year and being an auto as well,its drinking the fuel around town.

 

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I had a D3 2015  - great car all round and excellent towcar- but problems with the emissions - the years you are looking at will have had the EGR cooler mods and still soot up. Mine had a new EGR valve and EMAP sensor pipe fitted at 5 years old.

 

After 2017 I believe they started using Adblue to solve the problem

 

Get one with a full Volvo Service history if you can 

 

Loved the car and would have another if I could afford one now

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Are you saying you are changing your car simply to reduce fuel consumption?! And will the Volvo be new or used? 

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Yes,fuel consumption is playing a big part in my decisions.

My daily commute to work is about 5 miles leaving at 5.30 am.

By the time I get to work its just about up to working temperature and mpg shows about 21-24.

I have a sneaky suspicion the dpf may need a good clean out by a specialist(I may be wrong).

Also the "stop/start" isn't working anymore. 

After a good "blast"on the motorway of about 40 miles,fuel consumption does improve but after a few days,it returns to lower figures.

I realise the Volvo will not give me the figures the manufacturer claims,but I would expect a return of about 30ish around town.

Santa fe is a great towcar,but I feel its time for a change.

If I do decide to change,Volvo would be around 2015-2017.

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Just a thought - perhaps do double check the exact preferred model / CO2 & Euro emissions class & therefore the VED rates - will pay off in the years to come with ULEZ & others to be introduced.

fwiw ... Had a previous tow car with sooting up & sensor issues & struggling to pass MOT - resolved by using Shell V Power after which ran very clean & also improved the mpg. 

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Given your usage and caravan I'd be giving serious thought to a used Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (assuming you have somewhere to charge it). You'd get to work without the engine switching on. The performance towing isn't amazing but if your towing milage is that low then relax and enjoy the journey 😂

 

Or if you are feeling brave...an electric bike?

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I can't  see their being much difference between a 2.2 Santa Fe and a 2.0 Volvo suv.

I also don't see the point in  2wd SUVs, especially for towing, but that's just my view.

For short trips of 5 miles  dpf clogging up could be an issue unless adblue helps prevent it.

A petrol would be better for short trips but not as good mpg towing. A scooter or motorbike for work? You can drive a small one on a car license.:blink:

A hybrid could be a possibility but they are pricey.

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2 hours ago, George&Ade said:

Yes,fuel consumption is playing a big part in my decisions.

My daily commute to work is about 5 miles leaving at 5.30 am.

By the time I get to work its just about up to working temperature and mpg shows about 21-24.

I have a sneaky suspicion the dpf may need a good clean out by a specialist(I may be wrong).

Also the "stop/start" isn't working anymore. 

After a good "blast"on the motorway of about 40 miles,fuel consumption does improve but after a few days,it returns to lower figures.

I realise the Volvo will not give me the figures the manufacturer claims,but I would expect a return of about 30ish around town.

Santa fe is a great towcar,but I feel its time for a change.

If I do decide to change,Volvo would be around 2015-2017.

I only do short journeys most of the time and it was one of the reasons I opted for a petrol car.

 

You say that fuel consumption is a big part in your decision but a petrol car also suffers from lower mpg when cold and on short trips. So you will be in high fuel consumption running anyway….it’s inescapable with short trips.
 

 Compared to diesel, mpg  drops like a stone with petrol, making the fuel tank reduced range an irritation when towing, not to mention the cost of more frequent refilling.

 

I will be considering a hybrid next time, even though people say they will be obsolete sooner. My belief is there will be lots of people in the future,  like me, just needing / wanting to do daily trips of up 40miles that a hybrid (charged over night at home) would fit the bill. 
 

The stop start on my vehicle doesn’t work when the battery level drops below an acceptable level. Doing lots of short local daily trips compounds the battery drain. I periodically (and conveniently) plug my battery charger in through the tow bar socket, to top up the battery using one of these Ctek plugs…

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If we were to change, a plug in or self charging hybrid would be an option as there isn't  the worries of reduced range towing and finding a charger that comes with with full electric.

You can still get a diesel Sorento, Land  Cruiser and Land Rovers ! Others probably available? 

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22 minutes ago, 664DaveS said:

If we were to change, a plug in or self charging hybrid would be an option as there isn't  the worries of reduced range towing and finding a charger that comes with with full electric.

You can still get a diesel Sorento, Land  Cruiser and Land Rovers ! Others probably available? 

I’ve been driving a Discovery Sport Diesel /MHEV  (courtesy car) for the last 10 days. Have to say that the mpg on same short trips has been little better than my petrol car. I don’t really think their energy harvesting makes that much difference when the engine is cold. On the basis of this ‘test’ I would only consider a PHEV, where I can use pure electric on a daily basis. 

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I have a 2019 XC60 D4 AWD. Towing I get 29+ MPG (1800kg van). Solo it’s low 40’s. 
But, short journeys return under 15MPG. You have to do over 5 miles before the consumption falls. 

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5 hours ago, ericfield said:

I’ve been driving a Discovery Sport Diesel /MHEV  (courtesy car) for the last 10 days. Have to say that the mpg on same short trips has been little better than my petrol car. I don’t really think their energy harvesting makes that much difference when the engine is cold. On the basis of this ‘test’ I would only consider a PHEV, where I can use pure electric on a daily basis. 

Mild hybrids are almost pointless. To get any gain it needs to be plug-in or full hybrid. 

If it is time for a change that is one thing but to change to save a few mpg is dead money. However I never use anything other than Vpower or equivalent fuel and never had DPF, injector or EGR problems. Currently we are using my wife’s car that used to get unbranded cheapo fuel from the supermarket. I now fill it up with Vpower and the car is running much smoother, quieter, pulls better and better throttle response. 

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Thats good to know Lost in the wilderness.

Solo,mine does around 26-30 on a good day.

(Quite a difference).

As for Vpower fuel,I tried it a few months ago(2 tankfulls) and it didn't make any difference to consumption(just the extra expense).

The Santa fe has always pulled well,great throttle response,hardly ever noisy but just thirsty.

I know its 4 wheel drive,I know its a heavy car but although it may sound like "dead money" to change,I don't want to be faced with a rather large bill if there is an underlying problem that rears its ugly head in the future.

Stop/Start problem???....Had battery tested 2 weeks ago and was told it was fine and didn't need replacing.

For the past 20 odd years of towing,I've always had 2 wd vehicles and to be honest,had no problems with them so going back to one wouldn't be a problem.

My main reason for choosing the Santa fe was the "sls",7 seats and a huge boot(especially with 2nd and 3rd row of seats down).

A truly excellent towcar overall.

But......🤔

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, George&Ade said:

 

Stop/Start problem???....Had battery tested 2 weeks ago and was told it was fine and didn't need replacing.

 

 

 

 

My battery is fine when checked and doesn’t need replacing either.
But with repeated short runs the available supply could be sub optimal and maybe (like mine) the stop/start needs more than that. It takes a 10mile run for mine to function again.

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Two tankfuls is unlikely to be sufficient and I didn’t say anything about improved economy (although IMO it does).  However stop- start systems generally operate less in cold weather when there is greater demand on the alternator for heating, heated window, lights and so on.  I would trade SLS for 4wd. Had a 2wd Audi with SLS and as good as it was it didn’t help when stuck in snow or on a grass pitch when wet…..

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23 hours ago, George&Ade said:

If I do decide to change,Volvo would be around 2015-2017.

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=221555

Just for reference for your model year -  still a great car but I would go for a later model if you can with adblue

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Just a bit of info, the AWD version is mainly 90% FWD and10% RWD until its required to change due to wheel slipage So I wouldn't rule out the AWD version. My stop/start will not function if battery is below a certain power level. A long run brings it back to life. Mine is a 2018 R Design AWD

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