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:( ,  We just purchased a Swift Challenger 585 SR sport private sale,  I did lots of research before hand etc,  and spoke to friends who have caravans. I checked for wall paper issues etc water marks and any unusual smells, nothing all seemed fine.

It all looked very good inside, and last service was fine (18 months ago), so we went ahead with the purchase. 

We had it serviced yesterday which showed really bad damp under the passenger side windows (70%) , and some around the front windows (50%) . The roof , floor bathroom kitchen side are all fine at 6%. 

Totally gutted, what has turned out to be the start of our caravan dream has turned very sour.

As a private sale, I don't think we have any comeback, unless as good will gesture they will go half on the repairs.  which after speaking to a few specialists will be around £1200 to £1700, depending on what they find when its taken apart.   and I cannot get it booked in until February next year.

Do caravans dry out if the leaks are repaired ?? 

Is it safe to use ? 

I feel like I have been swindled out of our hard earned savings :(

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6 minutes ago, mcgreen1966 said:

Do caravans dry out if the leaks are repaired ?? 

Is it safe to use ?

 

Sadly, you are not the first buyer to be caught out by being sold a damp caravan.   As for your questions - yes, the van will be safe to use - if the window dampness is all it is.   Do they dry out?   Yes!   but not until the wall board lining has been removed.   Then the timbers need inspecting and any that have started to rot need cutting out and replaced by new.   The wallboard which is a 3mm sheet of plywood will already have started to separate, so that will need replacing too.

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Sorry to hear about your issues, unless the van is stored indoors, I suggest you but a full cover to prevent more water getting in...then hire  a professional dehumidifier to dry it out....We bought a brand new caravan in 2011, still have it, and have paid out an additional £5 K for damp repairs ....but we like the van...

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We did get it for a very good price, given the current climate in a Sellers market.  I am trying to be optimistic, ! so even if we have to spend 2K,  I think we still got a bargain :blush:

Thanks for the advice on the cover, yes we plan to get one, although I wasn't sure if a cover would make it worse, I know it can with cars. ! ?

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Is there not a survey service for caravans like there is for boats .?

 

used the boat survey every time saved a lot as some boats I have pulled out of before paying the vender anything.

the down side is you may have pay and still not make a purchase.

1 hour ago, mcgreen1966 said:

:( ,  We just purchased a Swift Challenger 585 SR sport private sale,  I did lots of research before hand etc,  and spoke to friends who have caravans. I checked for wall paper issues etc water marks and any unusual smells, nothing all seemed fine.

It all looked very good inside, and last service was fine (18 months ago), so we went ahead with the purchase. 

We had it serviced yesterday which showed really bad damp under the passenger side windows (70%) , and some around the front windows (50%) . The roof , floor bathroom kitchen side are all fine at 6%. 

Totally gutted, what has turned out to be the start of our caravan dream has turned very sour.

As a private sale, I don't think we have any comeback, unless as good will gesture they will go half on the repairs.  which after speaking to a few specialists will be around £1200 to £1700, depending on what they find when its taken apart.   and I cannot get it booked in until February next year.

Do caravans dry out if the leaks are repaired ?? 

Is it safe to use ? 

I feel like I have been swindled out of our hard earned savings :(

Is there some time limit  that if your not happy with it 

or was not as advertised. Or items knowingly undisclosed 

that you can return it for a full refund..

 

I do not think the seller has to pay anything towards remedial works unless they want to and in that case that have I think admitted liability.

 

legal advise I would have thought as the first port of call… 

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I don't think you have much comeback but if sorted properly you'll have no issues going forward-we bought a lovely Avondale that had damp in the rear corner, from a dealer who then repaired it-absolutely perfect from there on-and a great caravan for us. 

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oh dear, stable door and horse come to mind. My advice is to do what you can to stop things getting worse, Talk to the people who will be seeing to it in February and ask their advice. If you can use it for a couple of months all well and good, but I would move forward as it may cost more in money and stress to go back to the sellers. Saying that I don't really know the law on private sales, if you are a member of CMC they have a legal advice service that you can use, or perhaps your house insurance may have a legal side to it.

https://www.saga.co.uk/magazine/money/spending/consumer-rights/what-are-your-rights-when-buying-second-hand-goods

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There is no comeback on a private sale, that's one of the benefits of buying from a dealer where you have CRA cover and where the dealer normally charges more because they have that liability.

I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon

but to settle down and write you a line.

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Buying anything 2nd hand is a risk, the normal assumption having found a problem is that it was only sold ''to get rid of it'' but having inspected a purchase to the best of your ability and spotted nothing prior then it could be the seller never knew the problem was there either.

 

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Sorry for your experience but it is the risk you take with a private sale and you have no comeback. Unless you are experienced it would usually be worth getting an independent inspection carried out by a certified engineer - not much consolation for you now. As you can't get the problem rectified until February (have you tried several companies?) the important thing is to minimise any further deterioration. Dry the van out as much as possible and make sure it is covered when stored to prevent any further water ingress.

Life is not a rehearsal . . .:)

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3 hours ago, mcgreen1966 said:

:( ,  We just purchased a Swift Challenger 585 SR sport private sale,  I did lots of research before hand etc,  and spoke to friends who have caravans. I checked for wall paper issues etc water marks and any unusual smells, nothing all seemed fine.

It all looked very good inside, and last service was fine (18 months ago), so we went ahead with the purchase. 

We had it serviced yesterday which showed really bad damp under the passenger side windows (70%) , and some around the front windows (50%) . The roof , floor bathroom kitchen side are all fine at 6%. 

Totally gutted, what has turned out to be the start of our caravan dream has turned very sour.

As a private sale, I don't think we have any comeback, unless as good will gesture they will go half on the repairs.  which after speaking to a few specialists will be around £1200 to £1700, depending on what they find when its taken apart.   and I cannot get it booked in until February next year.

Do caravans dry out if the leaks are repaired ?? 

Is it safe to use ? 

I feel like I have been swindled out of our hard earned savings :(

2nd opinion.

 

is there another dealer that can do the same tests for you.

piece of mind just to make sure.

 

 

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Hi I spoke to the Sellar , who is going to pay 80% of the repair bill, I have it in writing, he was pretty mortified  . I don't think he even realised.  so result !

I am happy with that, it just a question of finding someone who can actually fit it in this year, all the  repair places seem chock a block !

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so there are decent people still around.  We had a brand new sport back in 2013 and had damp around the windows on the first service  and talking to others on site we found that they also had damp so I would say the van has done very well if , IF this is the first time it has had damp around the window. 

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1 hour ago, joanie said:

so there are decent people still around.  We had a brand new sport back in 2013 and had damp around the windows on the first service  and talking to others on site we found that they also had damp so I would say the van has done very well if , IF this is the first time it has had damp around the window. 


It was well documented that a faulty/incorrect sealant had been used on the windows of some 2013 Swift’s and leaking front windows has affected a fair few. Someone posted photos of one stripped down for repair on Swift Talk, the damage was incredible.

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Well its sold !! with the issues it was causing us stress and I wanted to see the back of it.

I got £3K back from the seller, and sold it as is with all issues highlighted for £6k.

So we lost £1K. we had 5 holidays all in all, so ill say we are even, we would normally do B&B, and at todays prices you would easily eat into this,  we are going to get another one next year now, from a dealer, I know even from dealers you can have issues, but a least your have some come back and warranty.

 

Looking forward to next year ! thanks for everyones comments,

 

Cheers

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At least you are more experienced now so will be better equipped when you come to buy again. Good luck and it's good you haven't been put off.

Life is not a rehearsal . . .:)

Porsche Cayenne S Diesel & Knaus StarClass 695. Previously Audi S4 Avant & Elddis Super Sirocco

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1 hour ago, mcgreen1966 said:

Well its sold !! with the issues it was causing us stress and I wanted to see the back of it.

I got £3K back from the seller, and sold it as is with all issues highlighted for £6k.

So we lost £1K. we had 5 holidays all in all, so ill say we are even, we would normally do B&B, and at todays prices you would easily eat into this,  we are going to get another one next year now, from a dealer, I know even from dealers you can have issues, but a least your have some come back and warranty.

 

Looking forward to next year ! thanks for everyones comments,

 

Cheers

Would you please let me have this week's Lottery numbers?

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16 minutes ago, Ern said:

Would you please let me have this week's Lottery numbers?

I don't call loosing a grand winning the lottery :rolleyes: :blink::ph34r:

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14 hours ago, mcgreen1966 said:

I don't call loosing a grand winning the lottery :rolleyes: :blink::ph34r:

3K refund from the seller was though!

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On 02/09/2021 at 19:07, mcgreen1966 said:

Well its sold !! with the issues it was causing us stress and I wanted to see the back of it.

I got £3K back from the seller, and sold it as is with all issues highlighted for £6k.

So we lost £1K. we had 5 holidays all in all, so ill say we are even, we would normally do B&B, and at todays prices you would easily eat into this,  we are going to get another one next year now, from a dealer, I know even from dealers you can have issues, but a least your have some come back and warranty.

 

Looking forward to next year ! thanks for everyones comments,

 

Cheers

 

Buying from a dealer is no cast iron guarantee it wont have damp,  or other issues, if its several years old, and the price you pay will probably be £3000 more than private. With the experience you gained, you may still be better off buying privately, provided you check that the history and annual servicing are in place, and when you find one that fits that description, pay for a survey as a double check (£150?), and if you want even more security, buy an independent 12 month warranty as well (£500?)

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