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Well my wife Lizzie is not in the best of health, and manages much better in the caravan than at home.Hence we go away for months at a time!

Last Thursday night was very hot. She went to bed at about 9.00 pm.

at 10.25pm she wheezed to me that she could not breathe. Could I get an ambulance. Now she is not one to panic!

I settled her and hit 999. Instant answer! Explained the problem. Was told to stay on the line!  I explained we were on a campsite and needed to unlock a gate to let them in. Told to go and unlock the gate as they were approaching it. 12 minutes from original call to them approaching our site!

 Unlocked the gate and rapid response vehicle was there and followed me over to Lizzie and oxygen administered! Less than 5 mins later ambulance arrived!

Result, was Lizzie in hospital in Salisbury for 20 hours. All checked out!  They spoke to her specialist in Southmead, Bristol. Appropriate way to to move forward sorted. 
Back with me in the caravan the following evening!

Still here at Summerlands!

Absolutely stonking  service from the NHS!

Letters of thanks penned and sent on their way to the Ambulance service and the hospital!

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Good to hear she’s okay. So many folks criticise the NHS that it’s good to hear of good experiences from others.

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Over many years of attending crashes etc  I came to realise that in an emergency situation the NHS is simply brilliant. I have, on a good few occasions, driven ambulances on twos and blues while both of the ambulance crew work on the patient in the back. When they get to hospital if the patients life is at risk then everyone is ready and waiting literally opening the ambulance doors as it comes to rest, and mucks in, no thought is given to the cost of anything, it’s just used with the wrappers being literally thrown over shoulders. 

 

If a condition isnt life threatening, then things are a little different! 

 

I for one feel that front line paramedics are woefully underpaid and undervalued. The skills they possess, and use every day, to save people’s lives are simply awesome.

 

 I salute each and every one of them (and hope that I never need them to practice their skills on me or mine) 

 

 

Experience is something you acquire after you have an urgent need for it.

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:goodpost::Thankyou:

 

I totally agree, maybe I am slightly biased as my wife is a retired nurse with 40 years service to the NHS, after training and serving  in the RAF .

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12 hours ago, PR1 said:

Absolutely stonking  service from the NHS!

 

 

Makes you proud to be British where we have a service which is the envy of the world.

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Good to hear of excellent service and hope all goes well longer term.

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My wife was diagnosed with cancer and passed away 8 months later at just 33.  Although her battle was short I was so thankful for the NHS.   The support they gave me and my wife was exceptional.

 

I wish you and your wife all the best for the future.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, hstephen5 said:

My wife was diagnosed with cancer and passed away 8 months later at just 33.

 

How tragic for you.   You have my deepest sympathy for your loss.

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Absolutely brilliant and I agree entirely with Plodd re wages (for all NHS staff). The NHS is however severly underfunded and the pandemic has shown just how close to the edge we are. The last 10 years of "austerity" have made a huge difference to staff's working conditions and so many are deciding to leave an organisation where they are undervalued.

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The major two problems with the NHS are, in my view, too many chiefs (management) and not  enough Indians (nurses etc) Secondly healthcare is very expensive and someone has to pay for it (for example MIL had hip replacement last December privately. The cost was£13000) 

There is only a certain amount of tax revenue available and everyone thinks that their favourite recipient, whether it’s the NHS, benefit payments, foreign aid, defence, and all the other things the Govt has to pay for is underfunded. 

 

As for healthcare many people do little or nothing to care for themselves. My GP explained it thus to me. 

 

If you own a car from new and never carry out any maintenance on it for years, and something breaks or wears out as a result, then you take it to a garage to get it fixed. When you collect it you are presented with a hefty bill, one that’s much higher than the person who has looked after their car by investing in routine maintenance. So why should someone who has not looked after their body (overweight, alcohol or drug abuse etc) expect the healthcare system to repair them for free? 

 

Until people realise what things actually cost (like the hip replacement I mentioned above) they will always expect everything for free “I pay my taxes” being the usual riposte.

 

Healthcare costs a simply eye watering amount of money and, without doubt, there is a lot of waste/overpayment within the NHS. It needs a root and branch reform, but it’s too much of a political football for any Govt to get the secateurs out and do some effective pruning.

 

24 hours to save the NHS being just one cynical political statement employed by one Tony B Liar, once in power did things improve? Nah, course not! 

Experience is something you acquire after you have an urgent need for it.

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39 minutes ago, Mr Plodd said:

The major two problems with the NHS are, in my view, too many chiefs (management) and not  enough Indians (nurses etc) Secondly healthcare is very expensive and someone has to pay for it (for example MIL had hip replacement last December privately. The cost was£13000) 

There is only a certain amount of tax revenue available and everyone thinks that their favourite recipient, whether it’s the NHS, benefit payments, foreign aid, defence, and all the other things the Govt has to pay for is underfunded. 

 

As for healthcare many people do little or nothing to care for themselves. My GP explained it thus to me. 

 

If you own a car from new and never carry out any maintenance on it for years, and something breaks or wears out as a result, then you take it to a garage to get it fixed. When you collect it you are presented with a hefty bill, one that’s much higher than the person who has looked after their car by investing in routine maintenance. So why should someone who has not looked after their body (overweight, alcohol or drug abuse etc) expect the healthcare system to repair them for free? 

 

Until people realise what things actually cost (like the hip replacement I mentioned above) they will always expect everything for free “I pay my taxes” being the usual riposte.

 

Healthcare costs a simply eye watering amount of money and, without doubt, there is a lot of waste/overpayment within the NHS. It needs a root and branch reform, but it’s too much of a political football for any Govt to get the secateurs out and do some effective pruning.

 

24 hours to save the NHS being just one cynical political statement employed by one Tony B Liar, once in power did things improve? Nah, course not! 

Agree totally!

 

2 hours ago, Jaydug said:

 

How tragic for you.   You have my deepest sympathy for your loss.

Thank you.  I'm 2 years in now and my life has started to get back on track........my kids think I'm a superhero so that's good enough for me 😁

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2 hours ago, Mr Plodd said:

If you own a car from new and never carry out any maintenance on it for years, and something breaks or wears out as a result, then you take it to a garage to get it fixed. When you collect it you are presented with a hefty bill, one that’s much higher than the person who has looked after their car by investing in routine maintenance. So why should someone who has not looked after their body (overweight, alcohol or drug abuse etc) expect the healthcare system to repair them for free? 

 

I disagree with that opinion.

 

A bloke I work with is huge, massively overweight. He discussed it with me once, turned out years ago his daughter died before she reached the age of double digits. He has never got over it, and has massive bouts of depression. When he's low he has little thought about himself, and little respect for his own life, and part of this make him turn to food. As a result he's huge. That alone makes him even more depressed, knowing he's huge, and still grieving for his child. It's a cycle he says he can't get out of, despite trying, and I believe him. He lives his life grieving for his daughter, and being embarrassed about his appearance. But the cycle continues, despite getting all the help possible. He says nothing am make him feel better and he will live the rest of his life with this immense pain.

 

In the 20+ years I've known him, I have ever once seen him eat anything, and nobody else has either. He says he's too embarrassed to let anyone see him eat. So he obviously binges in private. 

 

So when you see an overweight person, it might not be down to pure greed, there maybe other factors present. Not everyone has a normal happy life.

 

 

 

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Its very easy to be judgemental.  Many people have complex issues that cause them to comfort eat or eat unhealthily.

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1 hour ago, meadowsweet said:

Its very easy to be judgemental.  Many people have complex issues that cause them to comfort eat or eat unhealthily.

 

 True, and being overweight doesn't necessarily mean you're a  lazy useless sloth either.

 

I'm nearly 6ft 4 with 50 inch chest and weigh 24 stone so I definitely fall into the 'overweight' category, yet I beat most slim folk at work when doing the fitness test, I'm also the first person my employers ask for when there's something physical to do, and i'm always giving up my days off helping friends to lay patios and shed bases etc.

 

Maybe I'm one  of those people who folk look at and assume I'm wasting the NHS's time, yet I've never had to go to hospital or use the NHS for anything serious.

 

 

 

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Another one here hugely grateful, both for my own health & my wife's, to the vastly overstretched and underfunded NHS. We're  hitting serious politics here, but the current move to sell ever more of it of it into private companies, who  pay their bosses & shareholders huge bonuses while still cutting costs from the people doing the real work, and whose prime motivation is those huge pay-outs rather than the actual patient care, seems to this household a thoroughly bad idea.  (Ref.  Centene, the US company currently aiming to buy GP surgeries in London, and who have numerous times been sued in the States for malpractice & profiteering.)
But the people at the sharp end are, time and again, utterly wonderful. They're just increasingly hard hit by being told they're wonderful and still not given the funds to do their jobs properly.
And despite this, as has been said earlier, the envy of the world. What's remarkable is that the NHS tends to have so much better outcomes for patients than the countries with more private healthcare.

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I'm just v thankful that 8 years ago a cardiology consultant didn't give up on trying to find the cause of my high blood pressure and spotted something odd on the edge of an Echo scan. Turned out to be a tumour on the top of one of my kidneys. Within a week I was having the kidney removed by keyhole surgery and I'm still here to tell the tale. 

 

I wouldn't have had those last 8 years and whatever's to come, without that NHS Cardiologist.

I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon

but to settle down and write you a line.

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On 15/06/2021 at 09:02, Mr Plodd said:

I for one feel that front line paramedics are woefully underpaid and undervalued. The skills they possess, and use every day, to save people’s lives are simply awesome.


 

I totally agree with this but then I would 😊

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The NHS has now reached a new low, several friends have been forced to pay for private treatment as the NHS has deserted us.  No other country has a system like ours and most do it much better. The NHS "envy of the world" is 50 years out of date. Also most countries pay more for health care than we do.  If it carries on like this we will become like the US most people will get insurance and the NHS will be more of a second class service than it is now. God help us oldies who will not be able to get insurance at a price we can afford.

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20 minutes ago, Ex-Gasman said:

The NHS has now reached a new low, several friends have been forced to pay for private treatment as the NHS has deserted us.  

 

I don’t think deserted is quite the right word to use here. Clearly your friends, and many others, have had their non life threatening treatment postponed in order to concentrate resources on keeping those afflicted with serious Covid alive. 

There is simply only so much money, resources and most importantly staff available and difficult decisions have had to be made. Just imagine you are in charge of a hospital and you have one single bed available and you have two patients who could make use of it. One needs a hip replaced and the other needs a ventilator to keep them alive due to them having Covid. Who are you going to give that bed to?? 

 

Healthcare is terrifyingly expensive these days, and we, the taxpaying public, simply don’t pay enough, per capita, for it. It’s a very brave politician who hikes taxes to direct more to the NHS. Everyone is in favour of paying more until they see the effect on their take home pay, that’s when the squealing starts! 

 

And THEN we come onto care for the elderly and the funds required for that. Nursing home or dementia  care can easily run into £1000’s per week. Then there’s  the cost of benefits for those unable (rather than just unwilling) to work, add in the huge drop in tax revenue due to Covid impacting production AND the cost of the furlough scheme !! It’s a piggin nightmare and I am glad it’s not my job to sort it all out as no matter what tge politicians do, it will, for some, be wrong. 

Experience is something you acquire after you have an urgent need for it.

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39 minutes ago, Mr Plodd said:

 

I don’t think deserted is quite the right word to use here. Clearly your friends, and many others, have had their non life threatening treatment postponed in order to concentrate resources on keeping those afflicted with serious Covid alive. 

There is simply only so much money, resources and most importantly staff available and difficult decisions have had to be made. Just imagine you are in charge of a hospital and you have one single bed available and you have two patients who could make use of it. One needs a hip replaced and the other needs a ventilator to keep them alive due to them having Covid. Who are you going to give that bed to?? 

 

Healthcare is terrifyingly expensive these days, and we, the taxpaying public, simply don’t pay enough, per capita, for it. It’s a very brave politician who hikes taxes to direct more to the NHS. Everyone is in favour of paying more until they see the effect on their take home pay, that’s when the squealing starts! 

 

And THEN we come onto care for the elderly and the funds required for that. Nursing home or dementia  care can easily run into £1000’s per week. Then there’s  the cost of benefits for those unable (rather than just unwilling) to work, add in the huge drop in tax revenue due to Covid impacting production AND the cost of the furlough scheme !! It’s a piggin nightmare and I am glad it’s not my job to sort it all out as no matter what tge politicians do, it will, for some, be wrong. 

I agree with all of what you said, my point is if it isn't sorted then insurance will become the default for those who can afford it, and the rest of us will be left behind. Money is the big problem but also the total waste culture that is the norm in any government funded organisation. Like yourself I don't want to be the one to try and sort it out I expect nobody will and we will slip into an insurance based system by default.

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On 18/06/2021 at 11:27, iansoady said:

Absolutely brilliant and I agree entirely with Plodd re wages (for all NHS staff). The NHS is however severly underfunded and the pandemic has shown just how close to the edge we are. The last 10 years of "austerity" have made a huge difference to staff's working conditions and so many are deciding to leave an organisation where they are undervalued.

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On 18/06/2021 at 11:27, iansoady said:

Absolutely brilliant and I agree entirely with Plodd re wages (for all NHS staff). The NHS is however severly underfunded and the pandemic has shown just how close to the edge we are. The last 10 years of "austerity" have made a huge difference to staff's working conditions and so many are deciding to leave an organisation where they are undervalued.

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Lots of money going into the NHS but lots going into the pockets of share holders of private companies .

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