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hey all,

 

new here - so go easy ;)

 

anyhow just got my new buccaneer barracuda from dealer and gave it a good wash etc.  I really like the Sonax BSD on my cars so gave it a go on the van - it came up lovely! sorry pics are so dark!

 

my issue is that the windows look to be scratched - any ideas to remove scratches?

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T Cut, in straight lines followed by AutoGlym Fast Glass or Vuplex

 

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IF you used a car wash type brush on the windows while washing the van it will cause fine scratches ( I found that out!) I now only use a very soft cloth to clean the windows carefully.

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I think I read that toothpaste is a very fine abrasive, but I have never tried it 

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Ta for replies

 

I suspect that someone used a car wash type brush to clean it - but I only use a sponge which gets regularly changed.

 

T cut is a good shout - will try that on a small area - have got glass cleaner products to go over it once done!

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On 12/04/2021 at 09:44, oligoon said:

Ta for replies

 

I suspect that someone used a car wash type brush to clean it - but I only use a sponge which gets regularly changed.

 

T cut is a good shout - will try that on a small area - have got glass cleaner products to go over it once done!

 

Do yourself a favour and don't use T-cut.  It has several ingredients including Ammonia in this product and this damages acrylic, but not instantly, it takes several months, but you will start to see tiny fractures appearing.  

 

Windows need very delicate and specialist products because the acrylic/perspex is prone to damage extremely easy.  We've seen all sorts of mistakes, but the best advice I can give anyone, is to leave T-cut back in 1990 where it belongs. 

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yeah - i've ordered some meguiars plast RX and also some fenwicks.

 

modern water based car paints are very soft but plastic windows even softer - will be very careful!

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2 hours ago, oligoon said:

yeah - i've ordered some meguiars plast RX and also some fenwicks.

 

modern water based car paints are very soft but plastic windows even softer - will be very careful!

Please share the results after you've used the Meguiars. I was about to use a small amount of T cut on one but Google had other ideas! 

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Will do - the Meguiars car range is probably the best "normal" range of products for car care before you go silly money. 

 

Will do a compare and contrast with the Fenwicks. Hopefully will get some pics - although my phone is a bit *****!

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I've had good results from Fenwick's Windowize.

hawkaye :beardy:

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7 hours ago, Tourershine said:

 

Do yourself a favour and don't use T-cut.  It has several ingredients including Ammonia in this product and this damages acrylic, but not instantly, it takes several months, but you will start to see tiny fractures appearing.  

 

Windows need very delicate and specialist products because the acrylic/perspex is prone to damage extremely easy.  We've seen all sorts of mistakes, but the best advice I can give anyone, is to leave T-cut back in 1990 where it belongs. 

Thanks for that, take your advice on board, what would you suggest please?

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Autoglyn polish does the trick on our windows.

 

John.

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Yep autoglym every time, super resin polish on a damp micro fibre cloth👍 Let it dry and buff off, you’ll be amazed at the results😎

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19 hours ago, Tuningdrew said:

Thanks for that, take your advice on board, what would you suggest please?

 

If you are asking about windows, then Autoglym Fast glass is acrylic and perspex safe.  

 

Unfortunately the above suggestions of Autoglym Super Resin are also incorrect products and I hope people just take what I say as helpful advice and not me trying to be a smart ass.   

 

The new formula of Super Resin has a small percentage of petroleum within the ingredients, and this is also harmful to acrylic windows.  Caravan and Motorhome windows really are quite a difficult material for an owner to maintain correctly, on the basis that so many products can cause damage and the window suppliers will reject most claims of certain issues because you won't be able to prove you have or haven't used these products.   The issue is the damage takes months and often longer to appear, but it will eventually, and incorrect product use often shows up as tiny fractures in the plastics that then get far worse over time.  We've also seen static stickers do exactly the same damage eventually.  Not every window and not every time, but we've seen it so many times and it's the same products used over and over again, when we ask the owners.

 

The best advice I can give anyone with scratched windows is to get a pro to sort them, and the best advice I can give anyone that just wants to clean their windows is to use a product that states it's Acrylic and Perspex safe.  Fast Glass is just one of many. 

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White spirit is a definite No ---- it causes crazing,  I accidentally used it on a Remi roof light that had de-natured black rubber on it after the sealing strips had perished - got the black gunge off but ruined the acrylic. As these are c.£500 to replace - beware.

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8 minutes ago, Fenester said:

White spirit is a definite No ---- it causes crazing,  I accidentally used it on a Remi roof light that had de-natured black rubber on it after the sealing strips had perished - got the black gunge off but ruined the acrylic. As these are c.£500 to replace - beware.

 

 

It's not a product we use, but always good to know. 

Another product to defiantly not use on windows is any kind of tar/adhesive remover.  This literally melts the plastic in seconds. 

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3 minutes ago, Tourershine said:

 

 

It's not a product we use, but always good to know. 

Another product to defiantly not use on windows is any kind of tar/adhesive remover.  This literally melts the plastic in seconds. 

Particularly as white spirit is often used to clean off  none setting sealant after re setting components like awning rails or locker door frames, gas/electric points etc.- so keep it well away from any windows.

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2 hours ago, Tourershine said:

 

If you are asking about windows, then Autoglym Fast glass is acrylic and perspex safe.  

 

Unfortunately the above suggestions of Autoglym Super Resin are also incorrect products and I hope people just take what I say as helpful advice and not me trying to be a smart ass.   

 

The new formula of Super Resin has a small percentage of petroleum within the ingredients, and this is also harmful to acrylic windows.  Caravan and Motorhome windows really are quite a difficult material for an owner to maintain correctly, on the basis that so many products can cause damage and the window suppliers will reject most claims of certain issues because you won't be able to prove you have or haven't used these products.   The issue is the damage takes months and often longer to appear, but it will eventually, and incorrect product use often shows up as tiny fractures in the plastics that then get far worse over time.  We've also seen static stickers do exactly the same damage eventually.  Not every window and not every time, but we've seen it so many times and it's the same products used over and over again, when we ask the owners.

 

The best advice I can give anyone with scratched windows is to get a pro to sort them, and the best advice I can give anyone that just wants to clean their windows is to use a product that states it's Acrylic and Perspex safe.  Fast Glass is just one of many. 

Noted and thank you for pointing out my incorrect advice👍 Fast glass ordered 🙂 every day is a school day 👍 

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On 14/04/2021 at 19:30, V8Vmarkie said:

thank you for pointing out my incorrect advice

 

It is and it isn't.

 

How would anyone know what they are using is correct?  Most dealers don't really know or understand the potential dangers of certain products, nor should they because they are just selling you a product that their suppliers say is ok to use.  Most manufactures don't actually know either, judging by some of the aftercare advice they state on their paperwork, and again, why should they.  They just sell a product and go with what their supplier tells them is to be used to maintain.  

None of these people see what we see later on in life, by which time most things are out of warranty and there is no way of proving incorrect usage of chemicals.  

 

It's a total minefield of differing advice from every direction, so it's no wonder we cringe at some of the products used or advised on the internet.  Let's face it, no one would deliberately give the wrong advice if they knew it was wrong, but the internet is rife with it. 

 

Manufactures should look for experienced companies like ours, who have dealt with these issues for the last 16 years and use our experience on product exposure on different materials to narrow down a safe list of chemicals to clean and maintain all the different surfaces Caravans and Motorhomes incorporate, but would I personally want that responsibility?  Hmmm, maybe not. 

 

 

We recommend the following products to maintain Caravans and Motorhomes and these have been used for years with no adverse effects, including my own 6 year old full GRP Motorhome that still looks literally like brand new. 

 

Autoglym Shampoo/Conditioner for general washing.

Autoglym Caravan/Motorhome cleaner for streaks.

Autoglym Super Resin for stubborn stains or to protect (yes it has a protection ability) 

Autoglym Fast Glass for all acrylic. 

 

The only other product we say is fine is the Fenwicks range and this is only because so many Caravanners use Fenwicks and we've never seen any adverse effects from these products. 

This doesn't mean there aren't loads of products available that are perfectly safe, it's only the above because that's what we personally have experience with. 

 

Lastly, a new surface will react different to an older one with these products.  Don't expect any of the above to make a faded, dull Caravan look like new, or remove ingrained issues, because that's a different problem.  Like trying to make an old faded garage door shine by washing it.  It's not possible without much more in-depth work first.  So nothing is straight forward in this industry as it tends to be in the car industry, but I hope the general product list above helps people out. 

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Wash all the caravan apart from the windows then wash the windows with warm water & liquid hand soap with a sponge.  Works for me. 

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