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I used to know a guy with a small moped that he had ridden for years. One day a copper on a m/bike stopped him and asked my friend the number of the bike. "YKP 929 " "Go round the back

I think your memory is letting you down Alan. Triumph didn't do a 250 Twin and didn't do scooters. Scooters were normally between 100 and 200cc two stroke, mainly Vespa 150  or Lambretta 200.

How us kids of those days ever survived is a mystery!

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Our first caravan was a Sprite 5 berth which weighed in at 750Kg. Double bunk at each end and a canvas stretcher across the rear. We enjoyed years of happy family outings in this.

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Where can I buy one?

 

The scooter (which is unlikely to have been bigger than 150cc) must have been on its knees towing that lot. I notice it only showed it on totally flat gradients!

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That was our first caravan sprite Alpine 5 berth 1967 after trying tents and a small trailer tent which I think was called a Concraft 

I can’t see a door so I think you unclip the back panel and climb in never seen one in real life.

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That's funny!  I can remember that my Grandma's best friend and her husband used to arrive in a little Beetle struggling to tow a relatively small caravan ..... But the route to North Wales from Manchester took them eight hours and they always had flasks of tea and loads of sandwiches wrapped in soggy wax paper.   First thing my Grandpa would do was to get Uncle Ted a large whiskey .....

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I remember our trips down to Cornwall with mother dad and auntie and myself we had Morris version of the Austin seven as it had four gears although some hills still had to be tackled in reverse if that failed we would walk and meet at the top, 

 Dad had his two favourite spanner’s and screwdriver at hand in his top pocket which seemed to fix everything. 
    The trip took two or three days depending how many brew ups and adjustments were needed on the way that was from Sussex.

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Love that rig.  But only because at 16 I had the same sidecar on my scooter.  It was called a "bambi or something similar,  GRP with a canvas hood, mine was posh as it had a custom luggage rack on the back.  A triumph 250 Twin.  Fond memories through rose tinted specs.  It would not pull the skin of a rice pudding and was about as stable as a jelly on a wet plate.  Flat out on a level road was about 45 mph  if the speedo was to be believed, which I doubt.   But it was transport until I got my car license at 17 and a bit.

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My Mum & Dad had one of these, which was an Sprite Alpine 5 berth. The 2 windows on the A frame side, the small one was for the toilet with an internal bi fold door, the larger one gave light to a bench seat that pulled out to make a double and a wooden brace which was fitted by the window to take the pole for the orange hammock type bunk bed above. The sink on the nearside by the door. The wardrobe was opposite, hiding the wheel arch. The rear dinette transformed into a double bed, using the table as a bed base. No running water, no heating, only heat source was from the gas lighting. The toilet was a bucket & chuck it! No 12v or AC. That's why they were so light!

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57 minutes ago, Alan Stanley said:

Love that rig.  But only because at 16 I had the same sidecar on my scooter.  It was called a "bambi or something similar,  GRP with a canvas hood, mine was posh as it had a custom luggage rack on the back.  A triumph 250 Twin.  Fond memories through rose tinted specs.  It would not pull the skin of a rice pudding and was about as stable as a jelly on a wet plate.  Flat out on a level road was about 45 mph  if the speedo was to be believed, which I doubt.   But it was transport until I got my car license at 17 and a bit.

I think your memory is letting you down Alan. Triumph didn't do a 250 Twin and didn't do scooters. Scooters were normally between 100 and 200cc two stroke, mainly Vespa 150  or Lambretta 200.

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45 minutes ago, David P said:

My Mum & Dad had one of these, which was an Sprite Alpine 5 berth. The 2 windows on the A frame side, the small one was for the toilet with an internal bi fold door, the larger one gave light to a bench seat that pulled out to make a double and a wooden brace which was fitted by the window to take the pole for the orange hammock type bunk bed above. The sink on the nearside by the door. The wardrobe was opposite, hiding the wheel arch. The rear dinette transformed into a double bed, using the table as a bed base. No running water, no heating, only heat source was from the gas lighting. The toilet was a bucket & chuck it! No 12v or AC. That's why they were so light!

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They are still very sought after today. Ours was a much later version but still no equipment when new. I added a fridge and a gas heater (open flame) whats all this about health and safety? We had a small battery and a light too! 

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45 minutes ago, Ern said:

I think your memory is letting you down Alan. Triumph didn't do a 250 Twin and didn't do scooters. Scooters were normally between 100 and 200cc two stroke, mainly Vespa 150  or Lambretta 200.

Oh yes they did. It was called a tigress. 250 cc twin four stroke. 

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21749/lot/107/

like most twins of that age the pistons were both in the same plane. More grunt than the two strokes but it shook the fillings out of my teeth.  

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19 minutes ago, Ern said:

 I added a fridge and a gas heater (open flame) whats all this about health and safety?

 

In the early days it was common-place to use open flame gas heaters in caravans.   This Harper model was very popular.

 

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For around 18 months, the Alpine model by Sprite was fitted with a drop-down bed.   Cant remember now whether it was the front or back window which was obscured by it.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Alan Stanley said:

Oh yes they did. It was called a tigress. 250 cc twin four stroke. 

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21749/lot/107/

like most twins of that age the pistons were both in the same plane. More grunt than the two strokes but it shook the fillings out of my teeth.  

The motorbike in the video is a Lambretta and the largest they ever made was a 200cc, and I think that size only came out after this video was made.

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36 minutes ago, Alan Stanley said:

Oh yes they did. It was called a tigress. 250 cc twin four stroke. 

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21749/lot/107/

like most twins of that age the pistons were both in the same plane. More grunt than the two strokes but it shook the fillings out of my teeth.  

Yes I see you are right, and I apologise. They weren't made for long and were certainly not within the ethos of either BSA or Trumph at the time. I dont know how succesfull they were but around the Midlands where both makes were produced I never saw one.  

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Triumph also did the Tina 100cc scooter, mid 60s.

My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it.;)

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Oh yes they did. It was called a tigress. 250 cc twin four stroke. 

Also badged 'BSA Sunbeam'!

 

My first motorised 2 wheeler, when I was 16, reg no. SFR 49. Without the sidecar Alan Stanley had to lug around it was good for 63mph:D

 

My Dad worked at a Jaguar dealer and had it resprayed in Jag metallic BRG and the saddle re-upholstered.

 

Looked really smart until the first time I fell off......

 

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The side car I obtained from the film studios at Walton on Thames. It had been modified for some film or other but nothing a bit of resin and mat couldn’t cure.  We owned lots of vehicles with our own workshops so I sprayed it the same early metallic blue as the bike.  

 

As side cars went went it was quite stable but if you cornered too hard the tyre would come of the rear wheel.  Fuel consumption was poor but nobody missed what I siphoned out the lorries.  Traded it for a Renault Dauphine when I passed my car test.  Another heap but good times. 

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My first bike was registered as a BSA C11 - a side valve 250, a common starter bike around Brum at the time. I started the build when I was only just 15 and had it on the road soon after my 16th birthday. Skimmed head and polished ports gave me a decent bike made from mainly scrap which cost £4 and an apple pie. Happy days indeed.

Sorry weekender, for the thread drift.

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Don’t be sorry I did say those were the days , include what you like does peg our age though.
By the way back to caravaning  when we had our Sprite Alpine we had a pollard awning and every pole was threaded separately took ages and a good test for our marriage .

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What I remember was that caravan loos back then were a small bucket inside for during the night .... And a huge "dustbin" that was the main loo and you could see ALL the contents floating around.  When it needed changing, once a week, my Grandpa would put his fishing waders on to carry the massive bucket over the field.  Some things really have improved!!  

 

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13 hours ago, Jaydug said:

 

In the early days it was common-place to use open flame gas heaters in caravans.   This Harper model was very popular.

 

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For around 18 months, the Alpine model by Sprite was fitted with a drop-down bed.   Cant remember now whether it was the front or back window which was obscured by it.

 

 

Quite terrifying really! Does anybody else remember the gas pokers that were supplied with prefabs?  A poker that plugged into the gas main, turned on, lit and then put into the unlit fire in order to start it! As a young kid it was my great desire to be trusted with this lethal thing in order to light the fire. Health and safety?

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6 minutes ago, Townie said:

Quite terrifying really! Does anybody else remember the gas pokers that were supplied with prefabs?  A poker that plugged into the gas main, turned on, lit and then put into the unlit fire in order to start it! As a young kid it was my great desire to be trusted with this lethal thing in order to light the fire. Health and safety?

The past is a foreign country, they do things differently over there, and the border is closed!

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9 minutes ago, Townie said:

Does anybody else remember the gas pokers......

 

I do, remember my early gas experiments with it when my parents were out. :o

Stay safe - Griff.  :ph34r:

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Just now, Griff said:

 

I do, remember my early gas experiments with it when my parents were out. :o

How us kids of those days ever survived is a mystery!:blink:

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