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HI lunar people

 

we were happy with layout and caravan brand when OH discovered lunar - its a 2015 hes looking at 

 

I understand that Lunar are no more therefore to get repairs and spares in future may be a challenge

 

thoughts welcome

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Got a Lunar, never had a problem getting anything done on it

Lunar Solaris 1 Limited Edition Hopefully Behind A

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Lunar aren't, but Lunar Automotive are. 

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Lunar Solaris 1 Limited Edition Hopefully Behind A

BMW 520D MSport Touring. ...

 

***** Jack of all Trades. ... Master of None *****

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Tis full moon tonight - just saying! 

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Graham

 

Unless otherwise stated all posts are my personal opinion 

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3 minutes ago, ReggiePerrin said:

In name only currently it seems.

Ashington Caravans have just take delivery of a few Lunar Alaria vans. 2021 models

 

Lunar Solaris 1 Limited Edition Hopefully Behind A

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7 minutes ago, JanandJay said:

Ashington Caravans have just take delivery of a few Lunar Alaria vans. 2021 models

 

It would be interesting to know whether these are truly products of the new Lunar, or merely products of the old lunar, recently finished by the new Lunar.

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4 minutes ago, JanandJay said:

Ashington Caravans have just take delivery of a few Lunar Alaria vans. 2021 models

 

Discussed elsewhere on Caravan Talk...  In the thread,  ‘Lunar staff furloughed until the end of October'

 

https://www.caravantalk.co.uk/community/topic/147079-lunar-staff-furloughed-until-end-of-october/?do=findComment&comment=1808722

 

 

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Just now, Stevan said:

It would be interesting to know whether these are truly products of the new Lunar, or merely products of the old lunar, recently finished by the new Lunar.

 

am really confused now , but to be fair that does not take much. So if someone buys a Lunar will it have the lunar warranty and spares etc or if its not then ........

 

lunar old and lunar new confusing me 

 

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As I understand it, when Lunar went out of business, they were taken over and renamed Lunar automotive.

 

If you're looking at a 2015 caravan, there'll be little or no warranty left on it, so whether the new owners honour the old warranty or not is a bit immaterial. Personally, I doubt they would.

 

But any Lunar specific parts that may be needed in future are likely to be difficult or impossible to get hold of. You shouldn't have any issues with a lot of the equipment, such as heating, power, fridge etc, the companies that supply them are still going strong.

 

Again, personal opinion only, I wouldn't touch a Lunar or Lunar automotive product, there are plenty of other brands which are less likely to cause ongoing headaches.

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21 minutes ago, angie2020 said:

 

am really confused now , but to be fair that does not take much. So if someone buys a Lunar will it have the lunar warranty and spares etc or if its not then ........

 

lunar old and lunar new confusing me 

 

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Give Lunar Automotive a call, see what they say. 

https://www.lunarcaravans.com/

 

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13 minutes ago, angie2020 said:

 

am really confused now , but to be fair that does not take much. So if someone buys a Lunar will it have the lunar warranty and spares etc or if its not then ........

 

lunar old and lunar new confusing me 

 

from the confused

 

The 2015 Lunar Caravans Ltd (LCL) 'van you are looking at will definitely not be covered by the balance of any manufacture warranty.

 

Lunar Automotive Ltd (LAL) who bought the Lunar brand from the adminstrators said it would honour warranties on LCL caravans up to three years old (I think it was) but even there, the conditions to be met for an LCL caravan to qualify make it unlikely that an LCL 'van of any would ever benefit from the LAL warranty undertaking.

 

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18 minutes ago, angie2020 said:

 

am really confused now , but to be fair that does not take much. So if someone buys a Lunar will it have the lunar warranty and spares etc or if its not then ........

 

lunar old and lunar new confusing me 

 

from the confused

Sorry for confusing.

The old Lunar, called Lunar Caravans, went bust and was liquidated. It no longer exists.

A completely new company called Lunar Automotive bought the equipment, stock (including completed vans, part completed vans and parts) and the right to use the name and designs.

No warranty obligations carry over, the reputation does not carry over, it is a new company.

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Press Release from Lunar Automotive Ltd...  originally posted by @pondskater292on 14th October 2019 as per the link above.

 

I have highlighted in bold text the criteria to be applied before Lunar Automotive Ltd will ‘endeaver to support’ owners of Lunar Caravans Ltd caravans.

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Dear Customer,
In August 2019, Lunar Automotive was formed to continue the manufacture of Lunar products to ensure that a brand that has been in existence for 50 years remains in the touring caravan market. The new owners are fully committed to ensuring our brand and products remain a strong choice for the caravanning public.

 

We are also very aware of the discomfort that many existing Lunar owners may be experiencing, specifically regarding any warranty provision.


Following extensive discussions and review of terms and conditions, Lunar Automotive Ltd have made the decision that, as a gesture of goodwill, they will endeavor to support claims for caravans sold by the previous company, Lunar Caravans Ltd. Please note this cover commences as from the original date of purchase and extends to models manufactured within the 2017, 2018 and 2019 seasons only. The caravans must be register with a full-service history to enjoy this warranty. Full Terms and Conditions will follow shortly.

For a claim to be submitted, your caravan will need to be assessed by your supplying dealer who will have to be a continuing Lunar Automotive dealer. Please speak to your dealer to check their current status.


We are aiming to restart production of caravans and parts as soon as possible but there will be a short term impact on deliveries following orders being submitted, meaning parts may not be readily available to dispatch straight away, further updates will be provided to the dealer network as soon as possible.

 

The new owners of Lunar Automotive would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your patience during this period, we do recognise that this has been a distressing time for all involved, but we can all now move forwards to a bright and successful future together.

 

Best Regards

 

Lunar Automotive Ltd

 

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This is the key phrase:

 

" caravan will need to be assessed by your supplying dealer who will have to be a continuing Lunar Automotive dealer."

 

The question is how many such dealers still exist and what is the percentage of previously purchased vans still get warranty  under this criteria? Surely goodwill should cover all sales within previously declared time limits. It is difficult not to be cynical.

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34 minutes ago, Fenester said:

This is the key phrase:

 

" caravan will need to be assessed by your supplying dealer who will have to be a continuing Lunar Automotive dealer."

 

The question is how many such dealers still exist and what is the percentage of previously purchased vans still get warranty  under this criteria? Surely goodwill should cover all sales within previously declared time limits. It is difficult not to be cynical.

https://www.lunarcaravans.com/help/warranty-for-caravans.html

Bearing in mind Lunar Automotive have no obligation to give any warranty to anything other than their own vans
 

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Every part that might go wrong is standard fit on any caravan-heat, oven fridge etc we had an Avondale we loved-no issues with parts-your only issue is panels and furnishings but that is pretty easy to sort in general via 2nd hand or specialists-go  for it!

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As it stands all the working parts, chassis and more are simply things common to other makes and will be available for some time. The danger is probably body panels which are no longer there although Caravan Panels Ltd will still supply the front and back ones. There is a risk therefore and this should be reflected in the price.

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:goodpost: If the price is advantageous enough you might risk it. Just understand exactly what you are taking on and the limited support that might be available if you end up needing it. Only a small percentage of the van will actually be unique to Lunar and those parts are probably the least likely to need attention - probably only if suffering accident damage. Most stuff that is likely to go wrong are common parts or appliances form other manufacturers.

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We have a Lunar Delta, brilliant caravan.

We exported it to Spain where we live in 2016 and never had expectations of any repairs under warranty.

We had it serviced for the first 3 years by a UK qualified engineer to keep up the warranty, but with the demise of Lunar we abandoned any thoughts of warranty and I serviced it myself this year.

I'm quite hands on and have carried out various repair/modification jobs.

As has been said nearly all parts will be obtainable from the individual manufacturers.  The only thing that worries me without Lunar is that I may not be able to obtain any replacement body panels in the event of a severe shunt.

If the price is good and I'd be looking for 30% less than other comparable makes, I'd certainly buy a Lunar.

 

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Me too loved our Avondale and as already posted had no problem sourcing parts.

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We had an Avondale too. It was a bit hit and miss in some areas and seemed to have little compromise on quality, with a few minor exceptions where inadequate screws were used. We did however have a accident and needed a new rear panel. The dealer sourced everything apart from the awning raise and the rear decal. They managed to clean up the old rail and we lived without the decal. When we traded it in the sale staff never noticed the missing decal. Not sure that panel would be available now though.

We did also have the front centre window drop out when it was opened once. There were doubts as to if the pars to fix it would be available if it needed any as we were told the firm who made the bits had gone out of business. Luckily it did not need any parts but we never opened that window again.

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That's funny ours did exactly the same, shoved it back in and it never did it again and we did open it! Wife had been opening it and I assumed she was too rough, no pun intended!!!!! 

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On 31/10/2020 at 21:38, JanandJay said:

Ashington Caravans have just take delivery of a few Lunar Alaria vans. 2021 models

 

There is no such thing as a lunar 2021 model. All lunar automotive have is a handful of 2020 demo vans which were built by lunar caravans in 2019. Lunar Automotive have never seen a single van go into production. They have no design team, no sales team, only a handful of production and office staff who currently haven't been payed anything for 2 months.

The Strand road factory is without power as the owner switched it off due to none payment of bills and are currently taking Lunar Automotive to court for none payment of rent which now amounts to a few 100 thousand pounds. Also the owners of the old Lunar site are taking Lunar Automotive to court for various things.

 

It's absolutely scandalous.

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