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17 minutes ago, joanie said:

surely the folk that are moving pitch in the morning are the same ones who arrived at the designated time the day before who only had the poorer pitches available to them. 

 

Yes, but the point being caravans are less able to relocate to another pitch.

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10 hours ago, LeadFarmer said:

 

Yes, but the point being caravans are less able to relocate to another pitch.


If moving to a different pitch is such a big deal to you, what’s stopping you moving your caravan? 
 

40 seconds to wind up the steadies, 10 to disconnect water and waste, maybe 30 to disconnect the electric. Another minute, tops, to hook on to the tow car and you too could be part of the morning shuffle in under 3 minutes. Maybe 4 if you’ve a wheel and hitch lock to remove too. It’s not like you’d be packing everything away to leave. 

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Just returned from Hawes CMC site and at one point, 80% of service pitches were occupied my Mohos that didn't use any of the facilities other than EHU (at the most!) True if you prefer to pay top dollar for a large pitch then it is your choice but I think its time 'the club' got a grip and escorted outfits to an appropriate pitch and charged a non-returnable deposit. This would stop selfish individuals booking everything in sight knowing full well that they can cancel up to 72 hours before arrival with impunity!

 

Right I'm off the soap box! :rolleyes:

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14 minutes ago, Fireman Iain said:


If moving to a different pitch is such a big deal to you, what’s stopping you moving your caravan? 
 

40 seconds to wind up the steadies, 10 to disconnect water and waste, maybe 30 to disconnect the electric. Another minute, tops, to hook on to the tow car and you too could be part of the morning shuffle in under 3 minutes. Maybe 4 if you’ve a wheel and hitch lock to remove too. It’s not like you’d be packing everything away to leave. 

 

Not sure why your saying all of that? I’ve never wanted to move from a pitch :blink:

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10 hours ago, LeadFarmer said:

 

Yes, but the point being caravans are less able to relocate to another pitch.

if you saw the caravan owner on site last week, he raced around the site, cut in between 2 rows of caravans before setting  down on another pitch. We moved pitch once using the motor  mover, okay it was only to the pitch in the next row

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10 minutes ago, LeadFarmer said:

 

Not sure why your saying all of that? I’ve never wanted to move from a pitch :blink:


So you start a thread about Motorhomes moving pitch, saying it ‘doesn’t seem very fair’ and ‘doesn’t seem right’

 

But you’ve never wanted to move from a pitch. Ok. Fine. Nor have I. 
 

All I was pointing out is that it’s no big deal to move a caravan either. But since it doesn’t bother you, happy days. 

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I do think the very flexible booking/no deposit system creates unintended consequences. It would be interesting to know how much of a problem the over-bookings cause to the sites.

 

i guess they are not having many cancellations otherwise the sites would be empty.

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On 15/09/2020 at 21:11, joanie said:

surely the folk that are moving pitch in the morning are the same ones who arrived at the designated time the day before who only had the poorer pitches available to them. 

 

Probably, but in my opinion the pitches I see them move from are good pitches, but they go to the hassle of moving to one that appears only marginally better. There aren't usually any really bad pitches on CMC sites, other than being next to the toilets, or bins.

 

One camper van we saw move dedicated their whole morning to relocating just three pitches away from where they were, watching for signs of the occupier packing away, packing away themselves, more waiting & watching, walking over to have a sly look to check progress of them vacating etc etc, then relocating and setting up again. They then left the following morning!.

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On 16/09/2020 at 08:14, yorkyguy said:

Just returned from Hawes CMC site and at one point, 80% of service pitches were occupied my Mohos that didn't use any of the facilities other than EHU (at the most!) True if you prefer to pay top dollar for a large pitch then it is your choice but I think its time 'the club' got a grip and escorted outfits to an appropriate pitch and charged a non-returnable deposit. This would stop selfish individuals booking everything in sight knowing full well that they can cancel up to 72 hours before arrival with impunity!

 

Right I'm off the soap box! :rolleyes:

Absolutely spot on.

 

I've had to join this group for next year!

 

Wonder if it's possible to lobby for a vote across all members regards deposits?

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On 16/09/2020 at 08:14, yorkyguy said:

I think its time 'the club' got a grip and escorted outfits to an appropriate pitch and charged a non-returnable deposit. This would stop selfish individuals booking everything in sight knowing full well that they can cancel up to 72 hours before arrival with impunity!

 

 

I'm not convinced deposits would work, instead of cancelling and making th pith available for someone else,  folk might just no show. If they aren't getting their deposit back theres no incentive for some to bother letting the site know they won't be turning up. 

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All this is putting me off joining the clubs even more. My experience of sites so far has generally been, either all pitches are the same size wise, serviced etc. so just choose a vacant one on arrival, or, enter your van size, awning requirements etc. when booking, then you are allocated a suitable specific pitch. We prefer that.

 

Talking of not using the facilities on a f.s. pitch, I'm reminded of our stay at a small (non club) site in Staffordshire immediately post lockdown. All fully serviced pitches. A middle aged couple in a very new looking little caravan a set up on the neighbouring pitch, aquaroll and wastemaster connected. Then looked around, nipped out in their car and returned with lengths of fresh and wastewater piping, plus a float for the aquaroll. For to make their post lockdown break all the more relaxing. Good call.

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11 hours ago, LeadFarmer said:

 

Probably, but in my opinion the pitches I see them move from are good pitches, but they go to the hassle of moving to one that appears only marginally better. There aren't usually any really bad pitches on CMC sites, other than being next to the toilets, or bins.

 

One camper van we saw move dedicated their whole morning to relocating just three pitches away from where they were, watching for signs of the occupier packing away, packing away themselves, more waiting & watching, walking over to have a sly look to check progress of them vacating etc etc, then relocating and setting up again. They then left the following morning!.

like they say, there's always one.  When we first started caravanning  we moved to a pitch just behind us as the one we were on was like loose cement 

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In over 25 years, have only wanted to move pitch twice. 
The first time was many years ago, the second only a few weeks ago. 
Both occasions were down to loud / noisy and inconsiderate neighbours. 
First time was on a CCC site, second time a CMC site. On both occasions the wardens were brilliant, and fully understood why we wanted to move

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1 hour ago, Lost in the wilderness said:

In over 25 years, have only wanted to move pitch twice. 
The first time was many years ago, the second only a few weeks ago. 
Both occasions were down to loud / noisy and inconsiderate neighbours. 
First time was on a CCC site, second time a CMC site. On both occasions the wardens were brilliant, and fully understood why we wanted to move

 Twice in my ongoing caravan career as well. Once due to being pitched adjacent to a path leading to the Toilet/ Shower block and another time due to the dreaded midge being pitched up the back of a hedge line at North Ledaig ? ( spelling) . Met a chap  who told me he was for the off early next morning and nabbed the shoreline pitch first thing. All above board with a rather slightly OTT  Warden who frowningly agreed another reason for leaving " The Happy Club".....

 

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Life is too short to worry about little motorhomes using huge serviced pitches, but swmbo does get a bit irate if they dont then use the facilities and she couldn't book one. However we did find it annoying that North York's site was fully booked after lockdown ended yet there were empty sites. We wanted to extend but couldn't as some hadn't cancelled ,we then packed up to come home and one became available. Grrr!

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3 hours ago, Jezzerb said:

Life is too short to worry about little motorhomes using huge serviced pitches, but swmbo does get a bit irate if they dont then use the facilities and she couldn't book one. 

 

I guess there always the chance that they wanted a normal pitch, but only serviced pitches were available at the time of booking?

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5 hours ago, LeadFarmer said:

 

I guess there always the chance that they wanted a normal pitch, but only serviced pitches were available at the time of booking?

Really? CMC serviced pitches are like hen's teeth

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This question might be better in a different thread. 
 

I’m not a member of the CMC, but I assume it is not possible to book 2 sites for the same dates?

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14 minutes ago, BryanH said:

 

I’m not a member of the CMC, but I assume it is not possible to book 2 sites for the same dates?


Correct. If you have a booking but want to change sites online you have to cancel the original before you can book the new site. I did this recently.

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21 hours ago, LeadFarmer said:

I guess there always the chance that they wanted a normal pitch, but only serviced pitches were available at the time of booking?

Or simply wanted a guaranteed hardstanding pitch?  Did that once not realising all the grass pitches at the site we wanted were closed. 

 

15 hours ago, Cyrus said:

Really? CMC serviced pitches are like hen's teeth

Not true. They keep adding them during site refurbs.  I'll let you count the exact numbers https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/types-of-pitch/

 

13 minutes ago, BryanH said:

I assume it is not possible to book 2 sites for the same dates?

Correct. 

You have to cancel the first site before you can book the alternative (with the, perhaps small, risk someone may nab the vacancy while doing so).

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2 hours ago, Rodders53 said:

Not true. They keep adding them during site refurbs.  I'll let you count the exact numbers https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/types-of-pitch/

I guess maybe the analogy wasn't the best.

 

Imo there isn't a high enough ratio of serviced to non-serviced pitches. Even refurbed sites like Black Knowl don't have enough.

 

That shows in the booking system which always sells out of serviced pitches before non-serviced.

 

We're on a CCC site presently and the majority of the pitches are serviced and being utilised. This and deposits (lack of) are driving us away from the CMC which is a shames as apart from those issues, we like the CMC sites...

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13 minutes ago, Cyrus said:

That shows in the booking system which always sells out 

Weekend availability is just as rare (on many popular sites) for any pitch type.

 

Go to other non CMC caravan sites for the serviced/super pitches?  Some CLs have water to the pitch and waste either to a nearby drain or hedges and trees?  I will use serviced pitches but generally feel the CMC per night premium doesn't warrant the convenience to me.  Some commercial sites don't charge extra for the facility either.

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