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On 10/06/2020 at 17:29, reluctant said:

IMHO they should all open with full facilities perhaps with extra cleaning regime in place (twice per day instead of once per day)

 

It would be for individuals to decide if they wanted to use the facilities.

 

Yes, apparently you can catch it from virus left on solid surfaces...but if you use basic hand hygene you can reduce the risk to almost nil.

 

I don't think you can catch it from the toilet seat (just like certain other disieases!) just by sitting on it. and again basic hand hygene reduces any risk.

 

Showers - you are washing and using soap (not favoured by viruses) and if you finish with basic hand hygene before leaving again the risk is minimal.

 

A lot of the risks can be greatly reduced by simple common sense.

Totally agree with all of this, and well put.  I certainly do not need a lilly livered career politician telling me how and when to wash my hands.

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Oh dear, how tragic - A Victorian school sounds quite good. I really do find it difficult to have a great deal of sympathy when there are thousands out there with significantly more onerous and stress

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Ah yes, common sense I remember it well, although I do seem to recall reading it’s obituary a few years ago :(

 

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I had to make a forty mile round trip today, to Worcester and back,  i counted seven motorhomes on the road!going for a service?  Coming out of storage?

or do they know something i don’t?

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10 minutes ago, Pheasant said:

I had to make a forty mile round trip today, to Worcester and back,  i counted seven motorhomes on the road!going for a service?  Coming out of storage?

or do they know something i don’t?

The CL in our village been having Motorhomes on site for the last few weeks, they must have a mobile engineer servicing them on site :D

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1 hour ago, Signature said:

Totally agree with all of this, and well put.  I certainly do not need a lilly livered career politician telling me how and when to wash my hands.

 

The sad thing about all this is that folk are constantly having to be told to wash their hands, something that should be automatic after all the publicity.

 

It is also indicative of the ability of some to retain information !

 

More likely the same folk who never wash their hands after going to the toilet and there are plenty  enough of them about !

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Common sense isn't a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.  :rolleyes:

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9 minutes ago, Silversurf said:

 

The sad thing about all this is that folk are constantly having to be told to wash their hands, something that should be automatic after all the publicity.

 

It is also indicative of the ability of some to retain information !

 

More likely the same folk who never wash their hands after going to the toilet and there are plenty  enough of them about !

These will be the same folk who leave the ablutions on club sites in a disgusting state, and no doubt will continue to do so after they re-open.

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Looking at the C&CC list of sites, I have been at ones in all categories, opening facilities, not opening facilities and not opening this year. I cannot remember much difference in the facilities, may be there is something else not mentioned such as number of staff to keep things clean.

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The sites in Ireland are opening up on the 29th June but with no facility blocks.

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14 minutes ago, Paul1957 said:

Looking at the C&CC list of sites, I have been at ones in all categories, opening facilities, not opening facilities and not opening this year. I cannot remember much difference in the facilities, may be there is something else not mentioned such as number of staff to keep things clean.

CMC has stated that they have been unable to train sufficient numbers of wardens/assistans to handle everything. They have some wardens/assistants who are unable to work. I suspect that there is more to it than simply that though. If you were a warden would you want to deep clean toilets all day? I can imagine both clubs having a variety of problems with staff, just like a lot of employers.

CMC and C&CC have chosen different ways to handle the issue of toilets/showers and some people from both clubs as well as no clubs are moaning about it.  There are many people who have been fortunate enough not to have been ill with the virus, and now they want to complain because the clubs cant give them 100% normality or a discount. If we get through this year with our lives we will celebrate and remember the poor ***** who didnt. 

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Spot on Ern!! 

 

These days it seems to be all about “Me, me, me” all the time with no thought for “you, you, you”  I for one would baulk at having to constantly clean a campsite toilet block! 

 

Covid 19 has, so far, killed well over forty THOUSAND souls, yet there are so many screaming for all the restrictions in place because THEY want to do something, and the restrictions errr, restrict them :unsure:

 

If you don’t like the idea of sites not having all the facilities open there is a very simple answer! It’s a bit like people who complain about TV programmes, don’t know about you but my set has a brilliant device, it’s called an off switch! 

 

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There are many people who have been fortunate enough not to have been ill with the virus, and now they want to complain because the clubs cant give them 100% normality or a discount. If we get through this year with our lives we will celebrate and remember the poor folk who didn't

 

That's the reality check we all needed 

Well said Ern

Covid 19 has, so far, killed well over forty THOUSAND souls

Sadly Andy its 10 times that amount 

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14 minutes ago, stephendutton63 said:

There are many people who have been fortunate enough not to have been ill with the virus, and now they want to complain because the clubs cant give them 100% normality or a discount. If we get through this year with our lives we will celebrate and remember the poor ***** who didnt

 

That's the reality check we all needed 

Well said Ern

Covid 19 has, so far, killed well over forty THOUSAND souls

Sadly Andy its 10 times that amount 

 

I think Andy is referring to UK deaths.

Common sense isn't a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.  :rolleyes:

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You are correct Silversurf 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Silversurf said:

 

I think Andy is referring to UK deaths.

I am well aware of what he was referring to

Just a gentle reminder its worldwide problem lest we forget 

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We are hopefully going to CMC Black Knowl July 11th, we cancelled the first week to allow other to iron out the teething problems and for things to calm down, we also decided to use our own facilities.

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caravanning/camping should-is about freedom and relaxation, we’re in to support the network of campsites of all types in making a bob or two this summer and autumn. 
 

Fortunately for us we live less than 5 miles to great beaches and walks in and around west Dorset inc Weymouth bay. To that extent please remember to use your local CL,CMHC, CCC and independent sites. They need you! We regularly do. 
 

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8 hours ago, Oscarmax said:

The CL in our village been having Motorhomes on site for the last few weeks, they must have a mobile engineer servicing them on site :D

 

If they had six caravans on, someone would be wanting to report them

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The toilet issue needs to be taken in the context that at the moment 1 in 1700 people are infected and reducing by a third every week. So in a months time when we go caravanning maybe 1 in 3000? On a site with maybe 250 people, half of whom are the other sex so don't use the same toilets. 

On top of that say cleaning twice a day, just what are the odds of infection if you wash your hands properly after a visit? 

Way past my maths capability but must be very slim? 

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When you read of the horrific deaths of some virus victims, it is a risk that is not worth taking. Especially when you have the option of using your own facilities. 

 

It's a no brainer IMO. 

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The point been is it any more likely than dying an awful death in a car accident? 

Plus by you and others using your own facilities the odds reduce even more, after all you may be the infected one

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Have 41,000 people died in car accidents in the last six months? 

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1 minute ago, fredsautos said:

The point been is it any more likely than dying an awful death in a car accident? 

 

Probably not but you have added another way in which an awful death could happen.

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5 minutes ago, WispMan said:

When you read of the horrific deaths of some virus victims, it is a risk that is not worth taking. Especially when you have the option of using your own facilities. 

 

It's a no brainer IMO. 

If the toilet block is empty at the time, is subject to a good cleaning routine and as said you  practice typical good hygiene the risk is very low and I would use them. I wouldn't use them if they were packed and I had to queue. 

 

Very conditional and there's no right or wrong answer. 

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1 hour ago, WispMan said:

Have 41,000 people died in car accidents in the last six months? 

 car accident deaths are about 1700 per year, BUT, heart disease is another matter, that's 170, 000 per year, caused mostly by being overweight, smoking, bad diet and lack of exercise 

 

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What a cheerful lot you are this morning!:D

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