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2 minutes ago, Gordon said:

My personal view:

For the sake of everybody's health, I hope that travel restrictions remain the same on both sides of the border. If ever there was a time we needed a UNITED Kingdom, this is it!

NS does not think so, she will jump on every opportunity to undermine  the UK government for her political agenda 

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33 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

Restrictions relating to premises don't need to restrict movement - eg, certain businesses can restart in one region but not another.

But that's my point!  If certain businesses are open in Scotland but not in England, people will drive there from England.  They can't, legally, stop anyone crossing the border in either direction.

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2 minutes ago, kelper said:

But that's my point!  If certain businesses are open in Scotland but not in England, people will drive there from England.  They can't, legally, stop anyone crossing the border in either direction.

 

Not specifically the border but they can under current rules which amounts to the same thing surely?

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1 minute ago, SamD said:

 

Not specifically the border but they can under current rules which amounts to the same thing surely?

Yes indeed, but travel between the two country will have to be policed to make sure both side of the border is complying with the rules

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2 minutes ago, oldboy said:

Yes indeed, but travel between the two country will have to be policed to make sure both side of the border is complying with the rules

 

Indeed so but there's only two main roads, an I'll tak the low road;)

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  And how would the police cope?  There are hundreds dozens of roads between England and Scotland.   It's too much to ask of the police.  Would they stop and search trains?

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7 minutes ago, SamD said:

 

Indeed so but there's only two main roads, an I'll take the low road;)

Exactly, I travelled to Scotland  from England on many occasion without using the two main road.

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Given the SNP are making the announcements I suspect for political reasons they would like to differentiate themselves from England. At the end of the day though I cannot see any major differences being introduced, but more subtle changes just to show we are different.

Looking at the figures we are doing comparitivley well but I would not want this to go all wrong if we go too far too fast.

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14 minutes ago, oldboy said:

NS does not think so, she will jump on every opportunity to undermine  the UK government for her political agenda 

oldboy,

There are times when a political agenda must be superseded by a medical one - and this is one of those times in my opinion.

14 minutes ago, kelper said:

They can't, legally, stop anyone crossing the border in either direction.

kelper,

Everything is possible where there's a will, and laws can be changed. It may not be possible specifically to prevent the crossing of 'the border', any more than a 'county boundry' but certainly by limiting total mileage travelled. Some cars today can already be tracked, as can mobile phones, so it would only take a few high profile cases of people abusing the rules to be published for others to comply with a restriction.

1 minute ago, Wildwood said:

Given the SNP are making the announcements I suspect for political reasons they would like to differentiate themselves from England. At the end of the day though I cannot see any major differences being introduced, but more subtle changes just to show we are different.

Looking at the figures we are doing comparitivley well but I would not want this to go all wrong if we go too far too fast.

Such as already exist in other areas ?

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31 minutes ago, kelper said:

But that's my point!  If certain businesses are open in Scotland but not in England, people will drive there from England.  They can't, legally, stop anyone crossing the border in either direction.

 

Under present legislation the driver and passengers can be stopped and questioned as to whether they re making an "essential journey",  so yes they can!

 

 

20 minutes ago, kelper said:

Would they stop and search trains?

 

The same challenge exists for train passengers too!

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2 hours ago, oldboy said:

That is the question how are they going to stop people from England and vice versa crossing over the border? road block? I don't think they have thought of this, the way I see it it just one of NS political stupidity.

I really don't know where you got the idea that the wicked witch is considering easing the lock down. I haven't read that into anything she has said up til now.

What she has said is that she will be looking at the exit strategy, which is something entirely different.

 

I any case, even if we did ease restrictions earlier than England, why would we need to worry about English people coming North if they are still under lock down and not allowed to travel?

 

Ohh! Just a minute........!!

 

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"What she has said is that she will be looking at the exit strategy, which is something entirely different".

Unless you have another definition my understanding, exit strategy mean easing the lock down restriction by allowing peoples to go about their business such as opening school, opening other shop and other businesses that was closed due to the lock down. 

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10 minutes ago, oldboy said:

"What she has said is that she will be looking at the exit strategy, which is something entirely different".

Unless you have another definition my understanding, exit strategy mean easing the lock down restriction by allowing peoples to go about their business such as opening school, opening other shop and other businesses that was closed due to the lock down. 

 

"looking at an exit strategy" means studying the possibilities and formulating a plan - not necessarily implementing it yet.

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11 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

 

"looking at an exit strategy" means studying the possibilities and formulating a plan - not necessarily implementing it yet.

 

11 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

 

"looking at an exit strategy" means studying the possibilities and formulating a plan - not necessarily implementing it yet.

:goodpost:

 

Many people think that the ' exit ' from CV will be just that, an exit simply like walking out of a door.

 

Lots fail to grasp it will be a gradual, staged, possibly quite prolonged process before everything is totally back to normal in all senses of the word.

 

Owing to the many uncertainties of CV, still not fully understood, there will be many checks and balances before we are finally through the door, some allowing more freedom but which may also require require at times, the new freedom to revert back to a restriction.

 

Not forgetting the nail biting time to come in approx. 6 months, when the flu season starts again, when the world and his dog will be nervously peering down their microscopes hoping not to see CV staring back at them 1

 

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10 hours ago, onewheelonmywagon said:

A lot more respect is given to scientists, engineers, and technicians in Germany, rather than those who study philosophy, politics, and domestic science, as in the UK.

That's why they make such good cars, but their sausages are poisonous. :D:rolleyes:

 

Ahh you have tasted the street sellers "salmonella" specials then.😀

I was told the street sellers just leave the unsold sausages overnight reheat and try to sell them again-and again--

5 hours ago, Borussia 1900 said:

No large gatherings here (including the Bundesliga) until 31st August 

 

Bavaria announced this morning no Octoberfest €1billion gone south.

Points to a long term strategy compared to our media s endless dirge of "when is the lock down ending?"

 

4 hours ago, DeeTee said:

Where in Scotland is Loch Down? :rolleyes: ;)

 

Alledgelly attributed to Diane Abbott.

 

Did she cost it?😀

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IKEA are opening their doors to the German public from tomorrow ...........

 

 

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So if Ikea are opening I am confident German and Dutch campsites will be open before the end of May

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28 minutes ago, ancell said:

 

Ahh you have tasted the street sellers "salmonella" specials then.😀

I was told the street sellers just leave the unsold sausages overnight reheat and try to sell them again-and again--

 

I only get a Bratty from vendors at Borussia Park, they’re only open for 5 hours once a fortnight (normally) so they’re always ok.

Just now, WispMan said:

Which is the Worst hell? Going to IKEA or getting COVID19? 

I’d like to avoid both

Although ancells sausages sound like the ‘wurst’ 😂😂😂

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13 minutes ago, WispMan said:

Which is the Worst hell? Going to IKEA or getting COVID19? 

 

If we had the same gun laws in the UK as the USA, then IKEA would definitely be a very dangerous place to be.

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23 minutes ago, Borussia 1900 said:

I only get a Bratty from vendors at Borussia Park, they’re only open for 5 hours once a fortnight (normally) so they’re always ok.

I’d like to avoid both

Although ancells sausages sound like the ‘wurst’ 😂😂😂

 

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2 hours ago, Silversurf said:

6 months, when the flu season starts again, when the world and his dog will be nervously peering down their microscopes hoping not to see CV staring back at them

By then this CVD19 will be an old friend and, I suspect, still present

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4 hours ago, Borussia 1900 said:

IKEA are opening their doors to the German public from tomorrow ...........

 

So if Ikea are opening I am confident German and Dutch campsites will be open before the end of May

Unfortunately IKEA never closed here. Campsites did not close either.

By end of May i think most campsites in Europe will be open but in Spain i expect them to open in June.

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Talking of crossing borders, the people of Scotland have been coming into England to take advantage of our cheap booze since they increased their tax on alcohol....

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29 minutes ago, Nick J said:

Talking of crossing borders, the people of Scotland have been coming into England to take advantage of our cheap booze since they increased their tax on alcohol....


Yes and some of them are English  Living up here !!!

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