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The club mag has just dropped through my door & I was amazed that no mention was made in it about the problems wreaked on our hobby/ lifestyle by the Coronavirus. The only mention I could find was on page 53 with a little piece tacked onto an article about touring in Europe, a bit xenophobic I thought . I know that these magazines are published well in front of current events but a little addendum could have been put in the packaging I would have thought.

When you read through the mag it makes you realise all the industries & rallies / exhibitions etc that are going to be affected by this virus , very sobering.

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7 minutes ago, stevew1 said:

The club mag has just dropped through my door & I was amazed that no mention was made in it about the problems wreaked on our hobby/ lifestyle by the Coronavirus. 

 Ours arrived on Saturday and we said the very same.  Some sort of stop-press or even a flyer to go with it, but nothing.  While I see many benefits of the CMHC, they really do seem to drag their heels on hot-topics.  I often joke that they are still stuck in the 50's but sometimes the joke seems to be a bit near to reality for me.

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what would you have expected them to say?. What could or should they have said

 

Most sites were probably still open when it went to press and the situation was still a bit flexible only a couple of weeks a ago, it didn't really fully kick off until a week or so ago

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What could a small scale specialist magazine usefully add to the current issues by including more, incomplete, information?

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1 minute ago, matelodave said:

what would you have expected them to say?. What could or should they have said

 

Most sites were probably still open when it went to press and the situation was still a bit flexible only a couple of weeks a ago, it didn't really fully kick off until a week or so ago

 

A statement in the editorial bit along the lines of "don't worry, we're monitoring the situation, see web site for updates" would have been good I.M.O.

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2 minutes ago, matelodave said:

what would you have expected them to say?. What could or should they have said

 

Most sites were probably still open when it went to press and the situation was still a bit flexible only a couple of weeks a ago, it didn't really fully kick off until a week or so ago

 

As I said , a bit of a flyer or as Gary said , stop press , if they can put a Coronavirus update next to an article on Spain , France  , Austria etc then the realisation that we were not immune either must have hit.

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15 minutes ago, GaryB1969 said:

 

A statement in the editorial bit along the lines of "don't worry, we're monitoring the situation, see web site for updates" would have been good I.M.O.

I'm sorry but do we really need to be taken by the hand and told what to most people should be obvious by now - I sometime do wonder :(

 

My English Heritage handbook and magazine also dropped through the door and they haven't mentioned it either but it hasn't caused me any problems or worry as I'm pretty well aware that their places are closed and I cant visit them - I didn't need reminding in the magazine

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16 minutes ago, matelodave said:

I'm sorry but do we really need to be taken by the hand and told what to most people should be obvious by now - I sometime do wonder :(

 

My English Heritage handbook and magazine also dropped through the door and they haven't mentioned it either but it hasn't caused me any problems or worry as I'm pretty well aware that their places are closed and I cant visit them - I didn't need reminding in the magazine

 

An organisation that is affected by the situation and its paying members likewise affected ought to mention it in my opinion.  Whether mine and your opinions match doesn't make either of us wrong (or right).

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39 minutes ago, matelodave said:

what would you have expected them to say?. What could or should they have said

 

Most sites were probably still open when it went to press and the situation was still a bit flexible only a couple of weeks a ago, it didn't really fully kick off until a week or so ago

 

Dont want to get into an argument over this issue Dave , I was severely affected by the lockdown over three weeks ago in Spain & I know that Italy was over a week before that  , when I was driving back from Spain last weekend I passed thousands of Motorhomers & caravanners on the motorways of Spain & France all severely affected by the crisis & a good many of them probably insured with Red Pennant or other caravan friendly insurers , I would have thought that a priority of the two caravan clubs would have been to get as much info out there as quickly as possible even if it meant delaying the publication of the magazines or putting a useful information pack in to help the many thousands of members already suffering from the effects of this epidemic.

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A monthly magazine is hardly the place for up-to-date news of a rapidly changing situation - the website is the obvious place to expect up-to-date news.

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27 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

A monthly magazine is hardly the place for up-to-date news of a rapidly changing situation - the website is the obvious place to expect up-to-date news.

I'd also suggest that most of those scuttling back (or forth) wouldn't have got their magazines out there anyway and I don't really see how delaying the publication (as suggested in a previous post) would have helped either getting the info this week would have been too late and another week or so really wouldn't have made the situation any better or clearer

 

I'd have thought that most people would have come straight home as soon as possible rather than waiting until the magazine was published to tell them.

 

I also suspect that a lot people stayed on as long as they could expecting that they could finish their holiday or that it was a storm in a teacup and would all blow over. but that's just my opinion you understand.

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1 minute ago, matelodave said:

I also suspect that a lot people stayed on as long as they could expecting that they could finish their holiday or that it was a storm in a teacup and would all blow over. but that's just my opinion you understand.

 

I think that's what a lot of folks were hoping.  Only a few days ago I mentioned to my wife that our Easter trip out was looking unlikely but we decided to pack the caravan anyway.  Moving forward to today and it's back up on axle stands and completely empty.  

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I didn't even bother opening it this month.  Straight into recycling.   The magazine is such a waste of the planet's resources,  Reviews that suck up to the manufacturers.  Letters that suck up to the club.   And pointless drivel inbetween the adverts.

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19 minutes ago, Will deBeast said:

I didn't even bother opening it this month.  Straight into recycling.   The magazine is such a waste of the planet's resources,  Reviews that suck up to the manufacturers.  Letters that suck up to the club.   And pointless drivel inbetween the adverts.

So you don't find it informative or entertaining then? :rolleyes:

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31 minutes ago, Will deBeast said:

I didn't even bother opening it this month.  Straight into recycling.   The magazine is such a waste of the planet's resources,  Reviews that suck up to the manufacturers.  Letters that suck up to the club.   And pointless drivel inbetween the adverts.

 

Spot on.  You missed the enthralling article on archery!!  They must think we all regularly tuck in to a Friar-up!

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The magazine is very similar to the two commercial magazines in its content, so those who do not like it are not necessarily in the majority. Basically if you do not want it you can opt out and save them a few pence on the postage.

Frankly the present situation moves so fast that anything they sent would be out of date before you got it and therefore a further waste of resources. What are they going to add that you do not already know, or can get with a more up to date slant on the web site.

All the magazine contents are not going to suit everyone, but it is generally a well written magazine, written for people who are interested in the subject.

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( I'd have thought that most people would have come straight home as soon as possible rather than waiting until the magazine was published to tell them.)

 

Bit of a snide comment Dave ,most people , us included , did come back as soon as possible, but as we & I suspect loads of others had our return ferry bookings cancelled with no information from our ferry companies , it was up to us to re book on the available crossing providers as soon as we could & also drive the 1400 odd miles back to Calais . No one stayed on purposely to extend their ‘holiday’ , it wasn’t a holiday , it was a lockdown, no one was allowed out either on the beaches , boardwalks , streets etc , the restaurants , bars , cafes & non essential shops were closed , one person was allowed out at a time to visit the supermarket or pharmacy , one person allowed in a car .

all this happened in Spain on March 14th .

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1 hour ago, Wildwood said:

The magazine is very similar to the two commercial magazines in its content, so those who do not like it are not necessarily in the majority. Basically if you do not want it you can opt out and save them a few pence on the postage.

Frankly the present situation moves so fast that anything they sent would be out of date before you got it and therefore a further waste of resources. What are they going to add that you do not already know, or can get with a more up to date slant on the web site.

All the magazine contents are not going to suit everyone, but it is generally a well written magazine, written for people who are interested in the subject.

 

If you take out all the adverts, "advertorials" and self-promotion there isn't much in it.

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9 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

 

If you take out all the adverts, "advertorials" and self-promotion there isn't much in it.

 

The same applies to most magazines

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The online version of the current magazine has been edited including messages

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2 hours ago, SamD said:

 

Spot on.  You missed the enthralling article on archery!!  They must think we all regularly tuck in to a Friar-up!

Yep! Our copy goes in the bin too.:goodpost:

2 hours ago, Will deBeast said:

I didn't even bother opening it this month.  Straight into recycling.   The magazine is such a waste of the planet's resources,  Reviews that suck up to the manufacturers.  Letters that suck up to the club.   And pointless drivel inbetween the adverts.

Couldn't agree more.

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3 hours ago, Black Grouse said:

A monthly magazine is hardly the place for up-to-date news of a rapidly changing situation - the website is the obvious place to expect up-to-date news.

 

I agree completely, it is, but was it 'up to date' news on the website ??

CMC Club together 'Overseas Touring' section on Website.

First information advice posted 15/3 & 16/3. Next update was then 26/3  - woeful to members abroad. 

Sorry boring old record from me again.

 

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We had the on line membership until  Mrs Ex saw the mag at the dentist and said we should get it, so I changed the membership to paper  and we yet the mag. But they are all the same and we don't read it now.

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There is a long lead time on a magazine-it will have been finalised and put into production well before any of this really affected us. We love the mag-they certainly aren't all the same any way imo  sorry. 

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Bring back En Route! :D

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