Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
meadowsweet

Thoughts of France

Recommended Posts

Thoughts of France today as I received a new year greeting from a campsite in Ile D'Oleron.  Although, TBH I would not return as the pitches were tiny.  Also found the island to be quite busy and driving around slow (this was June).

 

I am wondering about the weather.  Last year, our first year of retirement, we had to leave the Dordogne in mid June due to the extremely high temperatures.  The dogs found it very uncomfortable as did we even though I could sit in the the river to cool down (or visit caves)!  We did not want to leave, it was so lovely there and wanted to stay longer.  We went to Brittany where it was still hot but had the advantage of the sea breezes.

 

I understand that 2018 also experienced high temperatures.  

 

Last year we left on 21st May, spent a couple of weeks in the Loire Valley > Ile D'Oleron > Dordogne.  I am wondering about leaving in early May this year (we want to go straight to the Dordogne with a couple of stopovers on the way as it was a bit chilly in the Loire last year.  That way we would have longer before moving on.  

 

To get to the point - are these high temperatures in June likely to be the norm?

 

Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At least here in Brittany it's anyone's guess.

 

Over the past 5 years we have had good and bad weather in every month between April and October

 

Some years we have had the central heating in June, other years the grass has been dead by June and full recovered by September.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Meteorologists say that 7 of the last ten years are the hottest on record.

Climate change.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Climate change and increasing temperatures is a fact.  I will be spending my usual month in France from mid June to mid July.  My wife and I handle warm weather pretty well and I lived in East Africa back in the 70’s.  However, if we are to get temperatures in the high 30’s regularly,  I will be considering taking my annual trip to France a little earlier in the year to avoid any discomfort.

    John.       🙂

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We have been to the Dordogne or further south several years lately in early May and returning mid June and in nearly every case we have had to come north earlier than we intended as it was too hot for us. I don't like heat and I don't like rain so I am very difficult to please weatherwise:D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I’ve noticed the n the summer months western and southern France can have some notable spikes and troughs; I. 2019 we basically went for the first two weeks of August, through mid July the Vendée has been hot, into August it cooled and shortly after we left the last two weeks and into September were hot, and this included further up the coast too - but other years it’s been reasonably warm then got hotter whilst we are there - it’s just the way it is.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This all seems a bit worrying as we’re booked for the Dordogne for late June into July with the dogs and while we like the sun and warmer temperatures we have to be realistic about what would be too hot for our dogs (Cockapoos). They are both fairly laid back and are quite happy to just laze around with us in the shade with walks in the early morning and late evening with occasional dips in a lake or river as we have done in the past. My question is what sort of temperatures are we looking at in June, high 30s?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, Tuningdrew said:

This all seems a bit worrying as we’re booked for the Dordogne for late June into July with the dogs and while we like the sun and warmer temperatures we have to be realistic about what would be too hot for our dogs (Cockapoos). They are both fairly laid back and are quite happy to just laze around with us in the shade with walks in the early morning and late evening with occasional dips in a lake or river as we have done in the past. My question is what sort of temperatures are we looking at in June, high 30s?

 

Well, it was 38 degrees when we left the Dordogne in mid June 2019.  We left when we saw the following week's forecast of 45 degrees.  We bought a gazebo when it started getting hot which helped.  We also, rather foolishly, had pitched in full sun rather than in the shade by the river (worried about midges), when in actual fact there weren't any....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
39 minutes ago, Tuningdrew said:

This all seems a bit worrying as we’re booked for the Dordogne for late June into July with the dogs and while we like the sun and warmer temperatures we have to be realistic about what would be too hot for our dogs (Cockapoos). They are both fairly laid back and are quite happy to just laze around with us in the shade with walks in the early morning and late evening with occasional dips in a lake or river as we have done in the past. My question is what sort of temperatures are we looking at in June, high 30s?

According to Google the average temperature is 24C with the record temperature being 36C.

I have noted that the temperature was 34C at Laon when we came back north in 2017 from Annecy as it was too hot for us.

 

Edited by LongTimeCaravaner

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Our several experiences of the Dordogne have been many days of fairly hot weather followed by downpours that turn the sites to mud. The highest temperatures we have experienced in France have been in Tonnerre, Burgundy, where was 35+ on both occasions we stayed there. So far inland with no breeze it was close on unbearable. Not even the Med has been so sticky.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Tuningdrew said:

This all seems a bit worrying as we’re booked for the Dordogne for late June into July with the dogs and while we like the sun and warmer temperatures we have to be realistic about what would be too hot for our dogs (Cockapoos). They are both fairly laid back and are quite happy to just laze around with us in the shade with walks in the early morning and late evening with occasional dips in a lake or river as we have done in the past. My question is what sort of temperatures are we looking at in June, high 30s?

Last summer we experienced temperatures of 35-40C end of June/early July.  This was in Chatellalon, then  Saumur, and then upper20's/ low 30's in south and north Brittany.  You can reasonably expect these temperatures or 10 degrees lower another year. Its impossible to predict. Your dogs could be "hot dogs" Sorry

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If anyone could answer the original question they would be in a position to make a huge fortune as currently no professional weather forecaster would be able to answer it.

 

Andy

  • +1 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well after spending late May and all of June at Le Barcarès, just north of Perpignan, we have called it a day as it was unbelievably hot in 2018 and 2019.

We are just going as far south as St Germanic Les Belles, Camping de Montreal, for a couple of weeks!. Then back to Normandy!

Whats the bet that the weather is cooler this summer!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And this is EXACTLY the  reason I like caravanning,  the ability to “up sticks” (if necessary) and move to where the weather is better, be that warmer, cooler or of course dryer!

 

A couple of years ago we were in the Dordogne and it was “orrible  so we moved south to Roses in Spain where it was MUCH nicer (just a **-*** long haul back to Cherbourg.) 

 

Andy

Edited by Mr Plodd

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We travel through France every year from Germany to Spain , normally mid July to mid August. We have air-con in our Tabbert and I certainly wouldn’t want to be in it with or without dogs without it. We’ve had up to 46 degrees in recent years during the day and up to 28 degrees at night.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If I had the payload I would definitely get aircon fitted, although the van is getting a bit long in the tooth to justify spending more money on it.

It's during the night when I find it difficult to sleep when it's hot and sticky, especially when I can hear the rattle and hum of neighbouring aircon units.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have read that weather patterns is something to do with El Nino and La Nina climatic cycle which has been happening for hundreds of years?  Apparently it works in 7 year cycles.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, Durbanite said:

I have read that weather patterns is something to do with El Nino and La Nina climatic cycle which has been happening for hundreds of years?  Apparently it works in 7 year cycles.

 

There's a difference between weather and climate, apparently.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, Lost in France said:

 

There's a difference between weather and climate, apparently.

I thought they were linked as when it rains, it is due to climate change.  If it does not rain it is due to climate change.  When it is a perfectly normal day in the middle of summer it is due to climate change.  :D 

Do I care about the climate change hogwash being peddled by extremists and the press?  Certainly not as climate change has been happening for thousands or millions of years when mankind was not even on the planet!  However we should take care not to pollute our planet and hopefully we do our bit!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Durbanite said:

I thought they were linked as when it rains, it is due to climate change.  If it does not rain it is due to climate change.  When it is a perfectly normal day in the middle of summer it is due to climate change.  :D 

Do I care about the climate change hogwash being peddled by extremists and the press?  Certainly not as climate change has been happening for thousands or millions of years when mankind was not even on the planet!  However we should take care not to pollute our planet and hopefully we do our bit!

 

Unlike you, I'm not an expert on this, so won't comment apart from to say that most of the people concerned seem to be highly educated specialists in the field, whereas the deniers, shall I say, are not.

  • Like 1
  • +1 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, Lost in France said:

 

Unlike you, I'm not an expert on this, so won't comment apart from to say that most of the people concerned seem to be highly educated specialists in the field, whereas the deniers, shall I say, are not.

How do we know there is a remote chance of them even being correct as on more that one occasion so called experts have got it wrong on numerous occasions?  I was an expert in my field and on the odd occasion even I got it wrong although it was never world changing event.  :D

BTW It would be a very foolish person to deny that climate change may be happening, but is it nature or mankind?

Edited by Durbanite
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Lost in France said:

 

There's a difference between weather and climate, apparently.

 

    I’m no expert, but I reckon that weather is something which happens in the short term, whereas climate is about what occurs in the long term.

 

            John.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Durbanite said:

How do we know there is a remote chance of them even being correct as on more that one occasion so called experts have got it wrong on numerous occasions? 

 

We don't but when many specialists in the field come to the same conclusion, I tend to think they might be onto something, unfortunately you and I probably won't be around to find out.

 

9 minutes ago, Durbanite said:

BTW It would be a very foolish person to deny that climate change may be happening, but is it nature or mankind?

 

Graphs I've seen with sea levels, average temperatures etc. show change going back thousands of years but also show an exponential change in the past 100 years, so I feel that it's a natural change that made worse by mankind.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We have been as far South as Biaritz where we had some cool and wet days but in general it was hot and dry.  We have had very hot and also very wet holidays in Brittany, the hottest was probably almost 40 years ago. Things are getting hotter but you can never be sure what you are getting. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No one is denying that the earths climate HAS changed in cycles going back millennia, the issue now is the SPEED of the change, which is totally unprecedented. 

 

Does the “Flat Earth” society still exist.?

 

Perhaps they could widen their membership base and call themselves “The Flat Earth AND climate change deniers” society ??

 

I do wonder how some people manage to continue to breathe when their heads are buried SO far in the sand.

 

Andy

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...