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The thread I started about what car we owned/drove at the age of 21 evoked many  happy/unhappy trips down memory lane. Things seem a bit quiet at the moment, so what's the worst car you've owned. Mine was without question a 1982 Morris Ital 1.7 HL Estate. Bought in 1986,I was attracted by its flame red paint and grey tweed seats in an era when beige and velour were by no means uncommon. From day one it had issues, no rear brakes, play in front suspension, worn propshaft to name a few. During the two and a half years of ownership it suffered burnt vaves, leaking gaskets, disintegrating differential, to name a few more issues. I finally gave up on it when the oil consumption increased to 30 miles per pint and significant corrosion took hold. Much of this could have been forgiven if it was a nice car. It wasn't much of an estate with a raised lip to load over and less space than the Avenger it replaced. Nor was it good to drive, with lots of understeer. O series engine wasn't too bad when it worked but poor on fuel. Only plus point was the fact it was easy and cheap to repair. Think the 1.3 models were nicer to drive. Replaced it with an older Peugeot 504  automatic family estate which was a far superior vehcle. 

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I'll include company cars as well as owned cars - the worst was a Morris Marina 1.8 as the handling was horrible, all over the road - my worst towcar was an '83 Cavalier mk2 1.6 bought cheap as a stop-gap during a period of redundancy -  I never really had a lemon, not sure if that was luck or buying skill.

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I have to say that the Marina was pretty dire - we had a few at work and the floors dropped out of most of them, gearboxes died and the Marina vans rapidly rotted away.

 

Dunno why the company went for them but we did our best to avoid driving them if we could

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Worst.

 

1991 Peugeot 405. 

 

Took me a lot of years to buy another french car.

 

2nd worst car.

 

2007 Citroen C5 Exlusive.

 

Will never have another French car.

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Working with an Austin Rover Main Dealer I had dozens of company cars ranging from a basic Mini 850 , several Allegros, Marinas/Ital’s  (including estate models) and latterly Metros’ there were only two which gave cause for concern.

Oddly enough they were both Allegros’, one a 1300 Estate (which I quite liked the style) but this one burnt oil at an alarming rate from day one.  The second which was probably the best looking car of all my company cars a 1500 Special in Russet Brown with velour trim and brown vinyl roof which was very stylish in the day but this car with the 1500  engine was so gutless I wore right through the clutch pedal rubber in 10,000 miles.  Shame as was such a nice looking car.

On my personal cars my worst was a Cavalier 1.6 GLS which was so poor in performance you literally had send the engine management a postcard when you wanted to overtake something.  We only kept the car for 14 months before trading it in for a 2.0 Vectra and what a difference.

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Mini metro 1300s, over 40 faults starting from day one until 2.5 years later when got rid.

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Worst reliability wise was a 1984 Opel Manta GTE hatchback. It broke cam followers, ecu died, injector died, fuel pump,  fuse board corroded away, swan necks on chassis needed extensive work, headlight lens fell off, fuel pressure regulator, air flow sensor, handbrake ratchet broke, front to rear wiring harness, rear wheel fell off as studs sheared. So much went wrong I used to carry a boot full of spares plus full tool kit, trolley jack, axle stands and overalls. All that was within a year!!!!

All that said it was one of the most enjoyable and comfy cars to drive and the most fun sideways, it was so controllable :D

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Worst car Ford Escort 1.4 H reg,  2nd worst Morris Marina 1.3 V reg.

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 I've never had a really bad car.

Even the £15 Morris 1100 was good for what it was.

Probably the one I was glad to sell was a Mondeo 2.5 V6 Ghia Estate.

Didn't break down and did nothing wrong but I was never happy with it. 

I had had a 2.5 Vectra before it, and even though it was an ex Police car, it was still better.

Mondeo was replaced by my first BMW - a 330d Touring which was in a different class to everything else I'd had before. 

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The Marina was certainly an absolute dog of a car. I never actually owned one but a mate of mine had one and I worked on it a few times for him. A long time ago so I'm happy that the memory has faded somewhat, but a classic combination of poor design, shoddy workmanship and dodgy materials combined in a perfect storm.  Thankfully he didn't have that one too long and I didn't have much to do with other models.  

 

As for myself, I had a couple of Citroen GS cars. In some ways clever designs, but in other ways not so good.  Inboard front brake discs were quite novel and in some ways more efficient that the usual location at the hubs, not too bad to change woads, but susceptible to the apparently inevitable oil leaks.   It's so long ago I can't remember if these were the Citroens where you had to remove the distributor to change the points?  Hydromatic suspension again good in theory and while it worked, but prone to leaks.  At least I bought them for next to nothing at auctions!

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I had two Marinas, a 1.3 and a 1.8. Bought from my dads company at the end of their reps use. 28.000 miles. Both great cars and sold at a profit!

One Marina my dad had went wrong and was taken to the main dealers! He asked for it back in two days! They laughed at him, pointing to a yard full of almost new Marina’s, all awaiting repair! He just stated that he had an order for over200 Marinas on his desk, and he would like it fixed!
He got it back two days later!

The company then switched to Fords and Vauxhall’s!

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I can't say any of the cars I've owned were bad.

 

They all (except the last two) taught me car maintenance and repair, in one way or another, which in turn saved me a fortune over the years.

 

The 1958 CA Bedford Workobus, taught me to do full engine repairs and clutch changing.

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The 1963 Ford Consul Classic 109E, also needed the engine rebuilding, although it had recently been done by the previous owner.  If only they had put the pistons in the right way round, they would not have tried to go up and down the bores with the wrong bias and prematurely wear out the piston rings.  A new set of pistons , bearing shells and ends set me back £20 but, dismantled it all in situ on a Wednesday evening, reassembled on the Thursday, drove it to work on the Friday and went on my hols on the Saturday.  Loved that car!

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The 1963 Princess Vanden Plas 3.0 litre, brought a bit of luxury into my motoring life.  OK it did have its own garden growing in the back, as the leaking rear window seal made the fabric lining a bit damp, but it performed well and the Delaney Gallay 3 speed auto box spoiled me into relaxed driving.

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The 1969 Wolesley 1300

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also required a new engine and gearbox when I got it, but with all my previous experience, I was not phased by this.  A lovely little car, but a drive shaft bearing cage broke up on the BMC Gold Seal  gearbox and although still under warranty, I'd had enough, so traded it in for an 18 moth old 1973 Morris Marina 1.3

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I had that car for 10 years.  I had to replace the rear springs, so used those off the van version, and it used to eat rear exhaust boxes until I put kitchen foil around one and then a plaster cast over that.  That lasted for years until the pipe to it rusted through, but the box was pristine, with the QH label on it, still as good as the day it was made, when I removed the cast.  It was my first tow car!

 

The 1982 Landrover 88" County Station Wagon, was my pride and joy for years.  Oh the adventures we had over 28 years!

 

Re-buiding the chassis sections on a Morris Minor taught me to weld.

 

The Volvo 740 Turbo was the car with the most go power, but was an awful tow car. It stayed with me until it had clocked up 250,000 miles.

 

The Citroen Xsara Picasso 1.6 was a trouble free car for 10 years and 149,000 miles.

 

The current car, 2015 C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 Blue Hdi, seems to be behaving itself at last!

 

Oh yes, the worst was 1.3 Austin Maestro  It was back and forth to the dealer for it's first 9 months.

 

 

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It’s a tie, but both cars for the same reason.

 

Having owned an Audi A2 1.4TDi for 5 very happy years we decided to buy a second one - sadly this was the 1.6FSi which was (and they still are) a reliability joke and everything  that goes wrong requires hideously expensive OEM parts as the engine is unique to this car (not to be confused with other FSi models, it’s lean burn and Fuel Stratified Injection) sharing only some small parts with the Polo 1.4FSi from the same era. It cost about £1,400 in 14 months before we cut our loses; the only saving grace was that I bought it cheap from a dealer who didn’t realise it had £6k of options fitted and I managed to sell it private for what I bought it (only losing the money I put into it). When it worked it was a superb car but the reliability let it down. I still own the 1.4TDi which is still an excellent car and one I will keep forever.

 

Second is the DS4 2.0HDi blue 150 we bought to pull Percy. Having owned a 1.6HDi 115 for 3 years and been thoroughly delighted with it be decided getting a more powerful one would be the obvious choice; more of the same. Sadly not, for a start it didn’t really feel much quicker (over-geared), it had a repetitive issue where the cruise would ‘drop out’ at wide throttle openings at about 2000rpm, towing a caravan up a gradient in 4th on one occasion! I would put up with this but in the end it sealed its fate by boiling its head-gasket; for a 6-month period the manual versions had an ECU settings fault which meant it ran over temperature and didn’t warn you until it was far too late - by the time the warning light came on the engine was goosed. Citroen replaced the head gasket and head under warranty (a recall was issued a few months later once they obviously realised a few were coming in with the same problem) but I’d lost faith by then, and a lot of money cutting our losses this time.

 

Neither was a bad car as such and when they worked were fine, but I was glad to see the back of them.

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Only ever had one bad car, a Rover 216!

All the rest were good, 4 Vauxhall, 1Yugo, 9 FIAT.

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I had a wurst car - it was used for carrying sausages.

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Worst car I have ever owned and I am 72 years old so I have had a lot of cars,is the one I have now..a 2015 Land Rover Discovery D4 on 15,560 miles,broken down twice since I bought it new in 2015.

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Can I add my best car ever! A 300tdi  Land Rover Discovery I. 150,000 miles and never missed a beat in 14 or so years!

Funny isn’t it but I can list every one of my cars registration numbers, except the one I bought in 1997 when my wife died!

First was 99EHW, an Austin A 35 to the present one , A 2017 MY,  Land Rover Discovery Sport . Brilliant vehicle!

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I can remember my reg numbers up to the ill fated Ital which I got rid of in 1988 and the numbers of my dads cars up to when I left home in 1977.Had current car for 2 months and struggle to remember that. Can just about remember our other car which we've had for four years. 

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Worst car a Lada 1600, not very reliable and heavy steering. Pulled our Monza caravan ok though!

 

 

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Vauxhall Vectra Automatic followed by a Vauxhall Vectra Manual.

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The Morris Marina was a very advanced car for the 1950’s 

 

The trouble was they were selling them in the 1970’s  

 

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My first car was a 1.8 Marina, 1973 brand new.  I got pretty fed up with the squeaks, rattles and water leaks  and no joy from the chimps employed at my dealers. I finally flipped on my way home from night shift 06:15 on a Sunday morning, when I got home I put the car in my garage and removed completely the interior and the dashboard. I found all the sources of water ingress (poor design and even worse workmanship), over the next few days I put back together along with an 'Acoustikit' sound deadening  kit. The difference was amazing, no squeak, no rattle and sooooo quiet. When it was 2 years old (yes I kept it all that time) the 'B' series engine came out and a rover V8 went in. Of course, the rover V8 was a pathetic engine with regards to power, very lazy, nice sound and definately more go than a 'B' series 1.8. I did a lot of work with the rear suspension, axle tramp being a problem with cart springs and a live rear axle. I retired it as my daily runner when I  got my Dolomite Sprint, lovely car. The Marina did go on until I sold it at 10 years old, no rust, no squeaks, no rattles and the lovely sounding V8.

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Mk3 Renault Espace 2.2 TUrbo Diesel. Bought new to replace the fantastic and loved Bluebird ZX Turbo as the growing family and circumstances required a people carrier. It was a toss up between the Renault and the Ford Galaxy. The Renault was a nicer drive, better equipped and the versatility of the seating suited us better as we had a wheelchair and other medical equipment to deal with for my wife’s mother as well as 3 small children. An attractive fibreglass body shell was another plus point over the Ford. 
Unfortunately it was a complete dog reliability wise needing an engine rebuild at 60 k when the crank thrust bearings dropped out of it (common fault), it had several clutch release systems fail necessitating complete removal of THAT dashboard each time. Dashboard cluster failed twice. The central air vents fell apart, the window sun blinds broke, the sunroof blinds broke, door cards fell apart, radios (3) failed. Electric window motors (all 4), gearbox bearings got very whiny. Steering rack failed, central locking gave up on several occasions and you always set off on a journey wondering what else  would fail, break or fall off before you reached your destination. 

Replaced it with a Mercedes E320 Cdi estate which we enjoyed but the best car by far was the 2014 Kia Sorento KX2. 

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I had a 1.8 Marina estate in the early  80s  that I towed with for a few years and it far from a good tow car a bit of difference from the Granada est  3000 it replaced that I towed with for ten years but at about 12 mpg .

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have had a lot of brand new cars, when I was in the Army in Germany I used to get a new one discounted and tax free every 6 months.

By far the worst in terms of faults was a 2000 MG F, it spent more time at the dealership than on the road, it wasn’t great to drive either I was glad to trade it in for a much much better Toyota MR2.

Also had 2 brand new 1.7 Ford Kuga’s, fun to drive but both came with braking/traction control and lambda sensor problems.

Had range topping E Class Mercs too, they weren’t fault free either.

Out of all the cars I’ve owned (over 30, non of them French), the brand that has proved most reliable/fault free is Suzuki.

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