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Hi all currently have a Mondeo 2.0 D, Thinking of changing in new year to a BMW 318D estate. I love the look and most are automatic which is what I want. Anyone on here tow with one? Which model and year? 

 

Ive looked at a few and they get great reviews.

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I have had a 318d it was 65 plate it was very economical and easy to tow with. I did however change it to a 335d xdrive this was a totally different beast you couldn’t tell the caravan was on the back and the performance was amazing.

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Which model/year 318 are you looking at?

G21 current model

F31 previous model phased out last year 

E91 previous model to that phased out 2013

 

Which Mondeo do you have and what weight are you towing?

 

The Mondeo is very space efficient. Something that cannot be said for the E91. It has a small boot that is narrow and not very tall. The transmission tunnel in the back makes having 5 people on board not a good proposition for any length of time. Don't get near the cars towing limit as it is actually quite a light car and the van will be heavier than the car. Later (LCI) models ride and handle better than early ones. Very last ones easily identified by having low profile roof rails. 

The F31 is a lot more spacious inside than the E91 although the transmission tunnel is still intrusive. The F31 rides better. In both models, the SE seats aren't as supportive as the Sport and can get uncomfortable over distances. No service books on these cars - it's all on the iDrive, but needs software to get it on there,  so most in dependant garages can't do it. Most BMW specialists will have the kit.  

I've no experience with the G21, just that the front grilles are ugly!

I think all the 318d's are a detuned 2 litre. Some reports say that the performance is dreadful compared to the 320d - I don't know.

Some E91 2 litre engines were prone to timing chain failure - it's well documented and BMW did a lot of free replacements, even out of warranty. The chains are at the back of the engine and need special tools to replace. It's not an expensive job, it's a very, very expensive job.

F31 2 litre engines have EGR cooler issues which in the worst case scenario causes the car to catch fire. BMW are recalling several million cars to be checked and modified.

Hope I've not put you off. There are millions of trouble free BMW's on the road! I would try and stretch to the 320d as there are lots more available, although no doubt more costly to insure. 

Mondeo? I towed a 1300kg caravan a few times with a 2006 2 litre. Dreadful. Saggy and soggy at the back, even with spring assistors. Reaching 60mph was an achievement!, although it was the base 115bhp model.

 

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On 10/12/2019 at 21:02, Damienbrown84 said:

I have had a 318d it was 65 plate it was very economical and easy to tow with. I did however change it to a 335d xdrive this was a totally different beast you couldn’t tell the caravan was on the back and the performance was amazing.

What van did you tow with the 318?

 

Wow 335 is that the 3.5 litre?

 

I can't afford to own and run that one.

11 hours ago, AlwynMike said:

Which model/year 318 are you looking at?

G21 current model

F31 previous model phased out last year 

E91 previous model to that phased out 2013

 

Which Mondeo do you have and what weight are you towing?

 

The Mondeo is very space efficient. Something that cannot be said for the E91. It has a small boot that is narrow and not very tall. The transmission tunnel in the back makes having 5 people on board not a good proposition for any length of time. Don't get near the cars towing limit as it is actually quite a light car and the van will be heavier than the car. Later (LCI) models ride and handle better than early ones. Very last ones easily identified by having low profile roof rails. 

The F31 is a lot more spacious inside than the E91 although the transmission tunnel is still intrusive. The F31 rides better. In both models, the SE seats aren't as supportive as the Sport and can get uncomfortable over distances. No service books on these cars - it's all on the iDrive, but needs software to get it on there,  so most in dependant garages can't do it. Most BMW specialists will have the kit.  

I've no experience with the G21, just that the front grilles are ugly!

I think all the 318d's are a detuned 2 litre. Some reports say that the performance is dreadful compared to the 320d - I don't know.

Some E91 2 litre engines were prone to timing chain failure - it's well documented and BMW did a lot of free replacements, even out of warranty. The chains are at the back of the engine and need special tools to replace. It's not an expensive job, it's a very, very expensive job.

F31 2 litre engines have EGR cooler issues which in the worst case scenario causes the car to catch fire. BMW are recalling several million cars to be checked and modified.

Hope I've not put you off. There are millions of trouble free BMW's on the road! I would try and stretch to the 320d as there are lots more available, although no doubt more costly to insure. 

Mondeo? I towed a 1300kg caravan a few times with a 2006 2 litre. Dreadful. Saggy and soggy at the back, even with spring assistors. Reaching 60mph was an achievement!, although it was the base 115bhp model.

 

A lot of info to take in!!

 

I would be going for a 2011 to 2013 model.

 

I have the 138 bhp model and tow around 1400 kgs it tows great with 4 in car plus 2 dogs. Upgrading to a fresh van next year. I find the Mondeo too big it's great in the summer when towing but winter it's a drag and it's our only car.

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As others have said, have a good look at the rear seat, especially with growing kids! A few people at my previous place had 2010 onwards 3 series BMW's as company cars and rear seating wasn't great. My last company car there was a 2016 520D which was much bigger than the 3 series but I did suffer with EGR valve problems. It was a great towcar though, pulling a 1620kg caravan with ease.

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11 hours ago, ged600 said:

Wow 335 is that the 3.5 litre?


3.0 twin turbo (the 330d is the same basic engine with a single turbo)

 

The 316d, 318d and 320d are a 2.0 4 cylinder with varying states of tune, the 325d has been 2.5, then 3.0 then 2.0 over the years!

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Just a thought but take a look at the F11 520d or 530d touring as prices are similar if not cheaper than the 3 series for the years you are considering. As others have said a great Tow car and plenty of room compared to the 3 series. The 520d has good economy but the 530 or 535d has amazing torque for towing. I believe all are 8 speed automatic and come with self levelling rear suspension.

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Five series is probably a similar size to the Mondeo and the OP wants something smaller! 

 

Me? I would go for the 5 series every time, but  everything in life is a compromise of course and it’s not my money that’s going to be spent.

 

Andy

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My E91 335d Touring was good for towing as long as you didn't exercise the performance with a weighty van behind. The towbar to ball fixing is way off centre to accommodate other models. The ball itself is central.

Doing an enthusiastic overtake from 40 or 50mph upwards I'm sure put a twist into the body. If you just lifted straight off the throttle after the overtake, the van would become unstable. Alarmingly so. A smooth lift off the throttle would make the manoeuvre drama free but then you would be prone to exceeding the speed limit. And we wouldn't want that,  would we?

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