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33 minutes ago, GaryB1969 said:


One of the most common Swift complaints! I always wrap duct tape round them to help hold them in place. I shouldn’t have to but you only need a drawer full of dishwater once.....

 

I know what you mean. In my case they had assembled the pipe connectors the wrong way around and one of the connectors was kinked, causing water to gush out .

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49 minutes ago, GaryB1969 said:


One of the most common Swift complaints! I always wrap duct tape round them to help hold them in place. I shouldn’t have to but you only need a drawer full of dishwater once.....

Just to illustrate the complacency, our previous Swift was a 2009 Sterling Europa and that caravan had the sink waste problem described by Lead Farmer. The subject was flogged to death on Swift Talk then - 10 years ago. 

Ern

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I had my toilet installation corrected "while I waited", so I spent a long time at the dealer, so I decided to look closely at new Swift/Bailey/Coachman caravans to observe build quality in some detail. Yes - I was that bored.

My conclusion was that of the small sample I saw, Bailey were worst, then Swift and Coachman came out best.

BUT, the difference was marginal and I wouldn't be surprised if a different sample would have given different results.  I have looked at Elddis before and they were again of similar quality.

I suppose the high end Swifts have one advantage in that if they do leak, there is no wood in the main structure to be damaged.

I have looked at German vans, but never found one with a layout that works for us.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Ukzero said:

I had my toilet installation corrected "while I waited", so I spent a long time at the dealer, so I decided to look closely at new Swift/Bailey/Coachman caravans to observe build quality in some detail. Yes - I was that bored.

My conclusion was that of the small sample I saw, Bailey were worst, then Swift and Coachman came out best.

BUT, the difference was marginal and I wouldn't be surprised if a different sample would have given different results.  I have looked at Elddis before and they were again of similar quality.

I suppose the high end Swifts have one advantage in that if they do leak, there is no wood in the main structure to be damaged.

I have looked at German vans, but never found one with a layout that works for us.

 

 

I absolutely agree. In our disgust of the Swift we went to see some other makes and boy oh boy, what a load of rubbish we saw. We really would like a Hymer/Eriba 470 of the later spec's with Alde and know it would be a costly purchase but they are really well made. I friend has one ( a left hander) and it is a real quality caravan. Not to everyone's taste as they dont have some of the gizmo's of the UK caravans.  

Ern

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