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Hello guys I was just wondering if any of you have a kampa air awning and experienced excessive water ingress.

We had our awning new Sept 18 and have just used it for the fourth time and the first time in real rain. We was shocked to see how much water it was leaking in from roof panels the sides are fine it's almost as if the roof panels are not water proofed everything we left in awning was soaking wet including poor dogs bed. I have contacted the supplying dealer via email but have had no response. I don't want to add sealer to fabric incase they say I have invalidated the warranty by doing so. What would your plan of action  be considering this is a thousand pound awning replys much appreciated paul 

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We had the same issue with our Air Ace and quickly sold it on after about 14 nights in Scotland even though it was still under warranty.  A big issue was water pooling on the roof.  Kampa insisted that the joins should get wet to help them seal however water was still coming in 14 days later.  The other issue on the few days that we did have sunshine with no rain, the awning inside was as if it had been raining inside the awning.  We have now got an Isabella porch awning which was bought at the same price as the Air Ace and is just as quick to erect.  No more leaks etc.  :D

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Leaks were one of many issues we had with our Kampa and we  quickly sold it on and went back to an Isabella. There's a Facebook page called  ' My Kampa Awning Leaks'. They have over 300 members and were trying to get some kind of reaction from Kampa.

There's also a Kampa Tent and Awning group. Might be worth joining them, they have over 2000 members so will have a wealth of info in getting your inflatable watertight.

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About 3 years ago I had a very leaky Kampa 390 Air Pro, it leaked badly. My deLer & Kampa both 'sealed' it, still leaked. I got my money back via my MasterCard as dealer/Kampa wouldn't do a refund. I've now got the same as you, Kampa Ace Air 400, love it & it's dry. You could go down the road of asking them to reseal it but it looks to me as if it's not been made properly I've sealant missing/wrong sewing thread. 

Good luck in getting it sorted, I'd ask for a replacement. 

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21 hours ago, Durbanite said:

We had the same issue with our Air Ace and quickly sold it on after about 14 nights in Scotland even though it was still under warranty.  A big issue was water pooling on the roof.  Kampa insisted that the joins should get wet to help them seal however water was still coming in 14 days later.  The other issue on the few days that we did have sunshine with no rain, the awning inside was as if it had been raining inside the awning.  We have now got an Isabella porch awning which was bought at the same price as the Air Ace and is just as quick to erect.  No more leaks etc.  :D

 

August 2016 exactly the same but we were at the New Forest, our dealer Salop Leisure took it back without hesitation and asked do we want a refund, we brought another Isabella.

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As i have posted before mine also leaked. I went to last years national and went to the kampa stand told them my awning leaked they gave me a spray can of their sealent. Now appears to be ok.

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There's a theme running here. Our Kampa Ace Air also leaked like a colander from new, so much so that we dumped it in France and bought a Cabanon Awning from a French dealership, who reluctantly took the soggy Kampa in part exchange.

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Hi, our Kampa 390 pro leaked and blew up in France a few years back . to be fair Kampa sent out replacement air beams but they broke too...... swapped it for a Isabella after dealer took it back .. it’s quite a common theme here .. 

 

Kampa are not great at dealing with returns via dealers, the won’t refund the dealer. My local dealer was looking at getting rid of them as a brand .. 

 

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4 hours ago, Tuningdrew said:

There's a Facebook page called  ' My Kampa Awning Leaks'. They have over 300 members and were trying to get some kind of reaction from Kampa.

 

 

I'm one of the members on there, I've mentioned our story before but I'll re-cap:

 

I purchased a Kampa Rally 390 Plus in August 2017 from an online store as they were around £150 cheaper than our local place (Tamworth Camping).  We used it for the first time in October 2017 and were concerned at the amount of condensation forming on the inside of the roof, we didn't really have much rain, just the odd very light shower, so I decided to buy their inner roof liner which was advertised as helping minimise condensation.

 

March 2018 and we used it again, this time we had rain and I noticed the inner roof lining was soaked, to the point that it was soaking through the roof lining and dripping onto everything below.  To improve the roof liner I decided to waterproof it and soaked it in some waterproofing solution.

 

May 2018 at Cheddar, the weather was brilliant and our next door neighbour had the exact same awning.  We had torrential rain one day and the rain poured through the roof of our awning, onto the liner, which now being waterproofed it, allowed the water to run down it and off the ends.  The rain also leaked through the end panels.  These leaks weren't through any stitching/seams, it was coming through the actual material.  Our neighbours with the same awning had ZERO leaks and couldn't believe how ours was totally different to theirs.

 

July and August 2018 saw the same thing happening on other trips when it rained.  I decided enough was enough and contacted the original supplier, it turned out they'd folded.  Someone on here kindly supplied me with a phone number for the owner but it just rang out.  I contacted Kampa direct who told me I had to go through my dealer.  But my dealer had folded, what should I do?  Contact your dealer was Kampa's reply.  It went on like this for a few days until I bit the bullet, purchased 2.5 litres of Fabsil Gold and on a warm day, waterproofed the entire awning with it.

 

October 2018 and we were away and typically, the only rain was a few light showers so not really a full test, BUT the early morning condensation seemed less.  Seeing as the Fabsil soaked through the material I concluded that it perhaps helped the condensation run off the surface.

 

March 2019 and once again we were away and it didn't rain!  We've just returned from a few days away at Carsington Water and it DID rain.  But we used our other (smaller) awning!  This other awning was a cheap-ish Dorema Starcamp, new at £250 I was concerned that the material felt thin and cheap, but despite some real downpours, not a drop of water came through.

 

I love the design of the Kampa, I don't like the weight and the problems I had.  

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On 30/05/2019 at 11:06, Durbanite said:

We had the same issue with our Air Ace and quickly sold it on after about 14 nights in Scotland even though it was still under warranty.  A big issue was water pooling on the roof.  Kampa insisted that the joins should get wet to help them seal however water was still coming in 14 days later.  The other issue on the few days that we did have sunshine with no rain, the awning inside was as if it had been raining inside the awning.  We have now got an Isabella porch awning which was bought at the same price as the Air Ace and is just as quick to erect.  No more leaks etc.  :D

Thank you for your reply very interesting like you I have had previous pole awnings of various makes which never leaked when raining. We decided on a kampa air like most of you I guess because of the ease of putting it up and the reassurance of no poles to damage our pride and joys and to be honest the space is amazing with the reassurance of our supplying dealer accessories staff whom recommended the kampa we handed over around a £1000 and left happy end of Sept 18. Now it leaks so badly it's pointless having it, all our belongings were soaked including our poor dogs bed he had a very wet night as he sleeps in awning main reason we have an awning. supplying dealer said he's going to contact kampa but as yet nothing! Just as our season begins looks like a 20K plus caravan won't be being used why does it seem like dealers just don't care ? will update and let you know the outcome fingers crossed.

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The wife wants us to buy the Kampa Air Break Pro 5 windbreak, but I am very reluctant to invest in it even though it will be beneficial to us when erecting the windbreak to keep the dogs contained.  The last thing we need is the windbreak deflating and then having to contain the dogs by tying them up.

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 We bought our air ace 400 in 2015 and it leaked a bit through the seems the first time it got wet but has been fine since, a couple of the middle sleeves have burst but replaced FOC by Kampa.

 

It has started to fade to a grey colour and when the Kampa rep saw it at the Scottish National he said I needed to reproof it as the fabric gets fragile as it fades,  he appeared the next day with two large cans of proofer.

 

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12 hours ago, Jennifer Crawford Allen said:

Kampa awning porch ace. 3rd year in use.

Just up and alot of rain all day. 

Alot of leaks all over the place.  Any ideas of what I can do.  

Dripping everywhere...


We have a 2017 Kampa Rally 390 Plus which leaked through the material (not the seams), I gave it two coats of Fabsil Gold and it’s now fine. However for £1,000 I expected better and won’t buy another.

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13 hours ago, Jennifer Crawford Allen said:

Kampa awning porch ace. 3rd year in use.

Just up and alot of rain all day. 

Alot of leaks all over the place.  Any ideas of what I can do.  

Dripping everywhere...

We gave up with ours and bought a secondhand Isabella Magnum. 

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We have a Rally Ace 400 with standard aluminium poles for about 5-6 years (one of the first when they came out).

 

We have the Monsoon Poles to stop water gathering, and about 3 years ago we were at Black Knowle in the New Forest and the roof got covered in bird poo.

 

When we got home I bought Fenwicks Awning Cleaner and scrubbed the roof clean and then treated the roof and all the material with Fenwicks Awning Reproofer, and it's still good today.

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When the first air awning came out I thought what a great idea not having to put poles up and no more shouting from the wife or dinting the side of the van but, they seem to throw up a fair few problems....think I'll stick with my isabella magnum and poles and the wife shouting. 

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All I can say is Isabella plus I am quite the wife is very good with the awning :D

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Having done a fair bit of research a while back I opted for a Sunncamp Air awning. It has not let a drop of rain in despite being “tested”  by what I can best describe as a monsoon last year in Holland.

 

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We have been using a Vango kalari 420 since 2017 other than a beam failing, which was replaced without hesitation has been excellent, during the night I always leave a couple of panels unzipped along the top to aid with the condensation which really helps. 

We have however just treated ourselves to an Isabella  Air Cirrus North Awning, the quality is second to none as you’d expect at that price point. I was contemplating getting their full sized Capri north with carbon poles but when is see the Cirrus set up it was a no brainier for us. Hopefully we will get to try it out next weekend 

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We have a Kampa Grande Air Pro 390.

 

We have used it about 10 times, sometimes in really bad wind and rain and it has been nothing but perfect.

 

No air leaks, no water leaks, no problem with the wind etc.

 

Sounds like it's a bit of a gamble / luck of the draw?

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I have had an externally poled Kampa porch awning in the past and, to be fair, it never leaked (bout did suffer badly from condensation)  

Having said that there was a period when a fair few people on here complained of their Kampa awnings leaking. The issue seemed to revolve around the stitching on the zips not being sealed. I wonder if Kampa changed production method and, when it appeared there was an issue, reverted back to  the previous method? 

 

 

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When I owned a Kampa Air, I went over it with the Isabella proofer, needles to say it never leaked again.

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3 hours ago, Hort2074 said:

We have a Kampa Grande Air Pro 390.

 

We have used it about 10 times, sometimes in really bad wind and rain and it has been nothing but perfect.

 

No air leaks, no water leaks, no problem with the wind etc.

 

Sounds like it's a bit of a gamble / luck of the draw?

 

It seemed to affect batches of them from 2017 rather than all.  I had a video of ours in hard rain and you could see it actually coming through the material, the seams were fine.  There is even a Facebook Group called "my Kampa awning leaks".  Unfortunately the dealer I purchased mine from went bust so I approached Kampa but got nowhere, hence using Fabsil which seemed to work.

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12 minutes ago, GaryB1969 said:

It seemed to affect batches of them from 2017 rather than all.  I had a video of ours in hard rain and you could see it actually coming through the material, the seams were fine.  There is even a Facebook Group called "my Kampa awning leaks".  Unfortunately the dealer I purchased mine from went bust so I approached Kampa but got nowhere, hence using Fabsil which seemed to work.

 

Understood Gary, we bought ours at the NEC show last year so believe it to be the 2019 version.

 

That said, we also have a 2018 Kampa Rally 260 poled awning, and that has been fine too. 

 

Maybe it is just the 2017 select few that leak.

 

Thinking about it, I really need to sell some awnings as I have realised we have three. We also have a Sunncamp AirVolution Swift 390 Air awning. That is a great awning and we only replaced it with the Grande as we wanted a deeper awning.

 

 

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