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2 minutes ago, Durbanite said:

Would there be any difference if the vehicle had air suspension as they make the Jeeps with and without air suspension.  We have a very comfortable tow with nose weight at about 145kg taking into consideration the state of many British roads.

 

There is a difference because the method whereby the max. towload is determined and under what conditions is different in North America to what we use here. I'm not sure of the exact details of North American test procedure, but as far as I know, for one thing they take altitude into account and use Pikes Peak (14000ft) as a criterion, but there are also other differences, such as allowing for their typical electric braking systems on trailers, for example. North American towload limits are therefore generally lower than for the same vehicle over here.

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3 hours ago, Lutz said:

 

There is a difference because the method whereby the max. towload is determined and under what conditions is different in North America to what we use here. I'm not sure of the exact details of North American test procedure, but as far as I know, for one thing they take altitude into account and use Pikes Peak (14000ft) as a criterion, but there are also other differences, such as allowing for their typical electric braking systems on trailers, for example. North American towload limits are therefore generally lower than for the same vehicle over here.

They are referring to the load in the trailer when referring to the 60% so that is not an issue.  Gas bottle plus weight of heavy duty steadies we have most of our stuff over the axle or to the rear of the rear axle.  Maybe they never took into consideration twin axles being towed with a 3.0L CRD?  ;)

Anyway the point I was trying to make is that if the maximum tongue weight is 175kg why are towbars being fitted which can only handle a tongue weight of 140kg?

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22 hours ago, Dexterdobe said:

I have just bought a Buccaneer Commodore.  Buccaneers have very high nose weights.  I had a real struggle to get it down on my previous van, a Schooner, to the maximum allowed by my Jeep Commander (140kg).

 

Your post and relies by Lutz came me some concern so went to check the maximum tongue weight on the towbar and it is 180kg.  Just realised that you have the Jeep CommanderCRD  however if it is the same as my 2005 Jeep the tongue weight is 150kg.

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8 hours ago, Stevan said:

In what way is it "like a bag of spanners"?

With a "sweet spot" as light as 60Kg and stability only up to 55mph I have to wonder whether the car's suspension is the limiting factor.

What is the towbar limit for the car supposed to be and how many miles has the car done?

I would suggest getting the suspension checked out.

The old P reg Peugeot 406 I had towed it really nicely and that thing had well baggy suspension, it was on about 270k when I scrapped it, I'm now on my 3rd Volvo V40 and have had similar results with all 3, the first car had bog standard comfort suspension, fitting fully adjustable aftermarket coilovers helped things slightly, the 2nd one, the t4 sport was on oem sports suspension, which has been subsequently changed out for aftermarket but highly regarded as OEM+ stiffer upgrades, with new gas filled Monroe shocks to match, not a lot of difference, and the third car, which is the stop gap car while the t4 waits for me to put the new engine in, that has standard suspension (these had either comfort, standard or sport from factory) and again, not great, I just don't think these like towing something so big, despite it being within limits, part of me wants to get something a bit smaller and just buy a Cortina, but her indoors would probably murder me if I did that, the T5 V70 / v70r does look rather tempting though, once my V40 stage finally passes.

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'Cortina' ????

 

The last left Ford's production line on 22nd July 1982, 37 years ago,  and we've had the Sierra and Mondeo since then.

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12 hours ago, Steamdrivenandy said:

'Cortina' ????

 

The last left Ford's production line on 22nd July 1982, 37 years ago,  and we've had the Sierra and Mondeo since then.

A 1960's Cortina probably costs now as much as a new car!

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5 hours ago, Durbanite said:

A 1960's Cortina probably costs now as much as a new car!

 

Depending on year/model/mileage there are a number starting at about £7000 up to £30,000!

geoff

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I always wanted either a MK1/2 escort or a MK3 cortina, a friend bought a MK2 rs2000 custom back when he was about 15, 1997, and he's still got it, I'd wager that's probably worth 10x what it was when he bought it, those cars are unobtainable now though money wise for me so I'd have to settle for a Mk5 if I ever get into a position where I can afford a good one, my dad has tried to explain to me that they were rubbish even when they were new and so would be even worse now, especially compared to modern standards, but i still want one, another mate has a MK1 Granada and currently a MK2 estate, he's had 2 other mk1s, about 3 mk2s and 2 or 3 MK2 limos before that, there's just something about the old fords that I really like.

Edited by clarkey1984

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I have to admit I still like the styling of many old Fords - just not the Cortina mk3!

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1 hour ago, Black Grouse said:

I have to admit I still like the styling of many old Fords - just not the Cortina mk3!

I had the Ford Corsair at one time and it seemed to be a bit more upmarket than the Cortina that is replaced however the gear lever was column shift.

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24 minutes ago, Durbanite said:

I had the Ford Corsair at one time and it seemed to be a bit more upmarket than the Cortina that is replaced however the gear lever was column shift.

 

I also had a Corsair, one of the rarer two door version, but it had 4 on the floor.

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5 hours ago, Durbanite said:

I had the Ford Corsair at one time and it seemed to be a bit more upmarket than the Cortina that is replaced however the gear lever was column shift.

The column shift was fitted in both Cortina and Corsair to go with the bench front seat. Also had the "umbrella" handbrake which was useless. I think the bench seat was in the base model with bucket seats in the next model up the range.

I took my driving test in my dad's 1200 Mk 1 Cortina and the handbrake would not hold for the hill start so I had to heel and toe the brake and accelerator together.

 

Fred Drift strikes again!

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