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Unicorn S4 - Yet More Problems, Worst Bailey Ever....

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Just collected our Valencia ready for our Easter holiday and noticed the rear lower panel coming away from main body. Whats more concerning is that there appears to be no securing mechanism or adhesive that may have come loose.

 

This Unicorn was supposed to be a special treat to me and my wife but is the worst Bailey we've ever owned.

 

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That's awful, got me worried now pick up my new Pamplona end of May

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I had same problem on my S4 Cadiz and was repaired by dealer over 12 months ago and been ok since

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Had the same problem ... Noticed after removing the winter cover. All sorted on its first service book in a day. Apparently they didn't prime the GRP again.  I'm ***** off with the front grab handles discolouring but other than that it's been ok and a very nice caravan.

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I see your problem, they haven't used masking tape to hold it in position like mine was here

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Ours has the gaps on the rear panel assumed that was normal!

next time I’m at a dealers I’ll check other Bailey s4.

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Having checked another S4 and our Valencia I think theres a more fundamental issue relating to the build. Theres a plastic strip under the grab handle and this has a groove along its length, the lighting panel is supposed to be held in place under the plastic strip. Either the plastic strip under the grab handles is too high or the lighting panel too low and neither meet in the middle, it is a significant gap. As a result I'm not happy to accept a quick adhesive fix and requested a proper solution.

 

Whats more concerning is the front panel has gaps of a 1/4" and other S4's are perfect. I'm wondering if there's a more fundamental issue with our caravan. Luckily I reported the front gaps when collecting the caravan but I'm now waiting for excuses that the overloading and axle issues are the cause and therefore no warranty cover.

 

On 13/04/2019 at 21:07, Silverback said:

Had the same problem ... Noticed after removing the winter cover. All sorted on its first service book in a day. Apparently they didn't prime the GRP again.  I'm ***** off with the front grab handles discolouring but other than that it's been ok and a very nice caravan.

Same with my front panel discolouring.

 

Is it just me, but there seems to be a lot more adhesive and tape being used in the S4?

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5 hours ago, a18041967 said:

Having checked another S4 and our Valencia I think theres a more fundamental issue relating to the build. Theres a plastic strip under the grab handle and this has a groove along its length, the lighting panel is supposed to be held in place under the plastic strip. Either the plastic strip under the grab handles is too high or the lighting panel too low and neither meet in the middle, it is a significant gap. As a result I'm not happy to accept a quick adhesive fix and requested a proper solution.

 

Whats more concerning is the front panel has gaps of a 1/4" and other S4's are perfect. I'm wondering if there's a more fundamental issue with our caravan. Luckily I reported the front gaps when collecting the caravan but I'm now waiting for excuses that the overloading and axle issues are the cause and therefore no warranty cover.

 

Same with my front panel discolouring.

 

Is it just me, but there seems to be a lot more adhesive and tape being used in the S4?

My front panel is totally fine ... I'm confused with your post ... Any photos ?

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The image below is how our front panel was when delivered.

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This image shows how it is on other S4’s

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And the final image is how the fix looks after 15 months and the reason for not wanting the rear fixed in a similar way.

 

Sorry for the multiple post image limits and posting from iPad.

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I remember a few owners having their joints filled and I remember the first show vans with some having mastic filled joints and others not...  Seems it's back to fitters on the production track and quality control or the lack of it again.

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On collection I had our front panel gaps sealed for aesthetics as I thought it looked poor and  unfinished . Also one gap was slightly more than the other and unsealed its more obvious . Have you noticed that the Phoenix has a nice trim to cover up the gap ! One of the downsides to buying a new model early owners are the product testers to see what fails and falls off ! The GT70 would of been a good one I recon last of the line with most production issues ironed out maybe . 

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1 hour ago, cb300 said:

On collection I had our front panel gaps sealed for aesthetics as I thought it looked poor and  unfinished . Also one gap was slightly more than the other and unsealed its more obvious . Have you noticed that the Phoenix has a nice trim to cover up the gap ! One of the downsides to buying a new model early owners are the product testers to see what fails and falls off ! The GT70 would of been a good one I recon last of the line with most production issues ironed out maybe . 

 

Yes I noticed a Phoenix had a nice cover over the gap, its funny you’ve also noticed this as well as me.

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Update : The rear panel is a known issue and adhesive is not the fix Bailey recomend. Front panel recognised as an issue and reference to the Phoenix covers made but not available for the S4 yet!

 

I'd suggest other S4 owners check their rear lighting panel as ours is good in comparison to others in the storage compound. Others were not only not fitted along the top edge but also down the sides.

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I realise this is an old topic but as my S4 Cartagena’s rear panel bonding has separated twice from the body and has been ‘fixed’ twice under warranty and now has just failed a third time (it’s just 2 years old), has anyone else had this repetitive issue and actually had an effective repair carried out? Perhaps someone has an answer as to why this is happening. Thanks.

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I find that amazing; the aluminium roof and side panels are bolted and glued I think though others may be better in formed. Do you mean the decorative panels over that have the silly gaskets ? In which case there is no seal needed there as they are simply that-decorative, or does the joint actually spring a leak on the joint? If so there's a serious issue with the caravan and it ought to go back to Bailey imo?

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I'd be sharpening my pencil and reviewing the Consumer Rights Act of 2015. Three failures of the same item suggests it isn't fit for purpose. My wife's car leaked 3 times (and took out some expensive piece of electronics on one of them) but was repaired under warranty each time. However, I deposited a letter with the dealer that should it happen again within 6 years (and the car is 5 years old now, so he's probably in the clear) the car would be rejected as unfit for purpose. It sharpened up their thinking and they did a lot of work - the idea of a potential £50,000 refund tends to do that.

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I totally agree-after giving the dealer chance after chance to repair obviously not satisfactorily I am quite sure you are within your rights to reject it and would do so personally. That is not good enough. 

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when the rear  panel separated on our van like the top photos  they glued it back and wedged a piece of wood the whole length of the rear handle which I took out as they forgot  and  its not moved since  

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I looked at a few of these in my storage compound. No 2 were the same.

 

I assume its just a cosmetic issue?

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Well I removed the specialised cover today to start checking and putting things back in the van for the possible weekend away soon and surprise surprise the van has self distrusted over the winter ! This U4 was already on borrowed time so once fixed its gone... I’ve had enough of Baileys shoddy workmanship .

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That is shocking 😮 

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36 minutes ago, V8Vmarkie said:

That is shocking 😮 

That’s Bailey !

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What has caused that?

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10 hours ago, Lord Sward said:

What has caused that?

Poor design basically ..Bailey just stick the front and rear bumpers on with mastic 🙄. The conversation probably went something like this . “We’ve designed the new bumpers but not sure how you are going to fix them yet “......” we’ll just stick em on that’ll do “ 🤠

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That's more than shocking I can understand not keeping the caravan you lose confidence. 

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