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Chris Nutt

Avante 860 Purchase, export to NZ

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Hi, we are keen caravaners living in NZ and up until recently have had a succession of three large very heavy Australian caravans, the last of which has been our home for the last three years.  We now have a permanent home base near Napier (and family) and are keen to purchase a smaller lighter and better insulated van suitable for touring up to three months at a time.  It is a little frustrating as the New Zealand dealers are way over the top price wise. This van   https://www.robinsonscaravans.co.uk/caravans-in-stock/elddis/avante-sherwood-860/6907.htm which I can privately import will cost NZ$48500 landed in NZ all customs duty, GST and shipping included.  Recently a Compass Casita 860 sold here for NZ$84,000 which included about NZ$2000 worth of extras to make it NZ compliant.  We have friends who have dealt with Preston Caravans but at this time Robinsons Caravans are offering a much sharper price including delivering to shipping port and invoicing excluding VAT

We do like Swift vans, but the 8' Sprite range does not have a suitable layout, and the Elegance 8' is about 12,000 pounds over our budget !!

I am pretty handy and will be doing a few mods myself including a 200 AH LiFePO4 battery and 800 watts solar  (4 x 200 w) I will also be installing (chassis mounted) fresh and grey water tanks under the van.  There will be no warranty with the purchase, but a $NZ35500 saving on local pricing should more than cover any small niggles.

It is a little disconcerting committing to a purchase of this magnitude from the other side of the globe without being able to view. 

I am interested to hear if there are any particular issues I should be looking out for with this model.

 

Cheers

Chris

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With all the extras you are planning, you will need to keep a careful eye on the weight so as not to overload the chassis.

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52 minutes ago, Vanning Man said:

With all the extras you are planning, you will need to keep a careful eye on the weight so as not to overload the chassis.

That Avante with the MTPLM has a payload of 309kgs.  I am fairly sure that it is a dealer special so may have some extras fitted anyway.  Also as the caravan is being bought in Britain it would still be covered by the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and may still covered even if it is exported.  Elddis do export caravans to Australia so a similar arrangement could happen with NZ. 

However either way it may be better to buy direct from the factory and avoid paying any VAT etc.  See here to contact Elddis direct regarding exporting the caravan   http://www.elddis.co.uk/contact-us   The Robinsons price includes VAT at 20%. 

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But he says Robinsons price is excluding VAT.

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Both Robinsons and Preston will supply excluding VAT.  Elddis will not supply direct to protect their NZ Retailers.  Both have connections and a good rapport with our preferred shipping agent.   The shipping cost  has increased markedly afer my first estimate  as this van will not fit in a container and must be shipped on a roll on roll off vehicle ship.  Price is still pretty sharp at  $NZ52500 compared to this one we found for sale in Christchurch.

https://uk-caravans.co.nz/product/special-edition-elddis-chatsworth-860-side-island-bed/

 

It was brilliant that we were able to have a thorough look inside and out to confirm our buying decision, rather than work exclusively from photos on the computer.

 

Cheers

Chris

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7 hours ago, Chris Nutt said:

Both Robinsons and Preston will supply excluding VAT.  Elddis will not supply direct to protect their NZ Retailers.  Both have connections and a good rapport with our preferred shipping agent.   The shipping cost  has increased markedly afer my first estimate  as this van will not fit in a container and must be shipped on a roll on roll off vehicle ship.  Price is still pretty sharp at  $NZ52500 compared to this one we found for sale in Christchurch.

https://uk-caravans.co.nz/product/special-edition-elddis-chatsworth-860-side-island-bed/

 

It was brilliant that we were able to have a thorough look inside and out to confirm our buying decision, rather than work exclusively from photos on the computer.

 

Cheers

Chris

Wow!!!! That is a good markup.

The price from Robinsons looks a fair deal in comparison.

One thing to look out for is the roof stargazer surround to fall off (thread on here about it), but if yours is a 2019 model I think they have gone to a vac form plastic surround so should be OK.

Also keep an eye out for corner plastic cracking on the front and back panels. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Chris Nutt said:

The shipping cost  has increased markedly afer my first estimate  as this van will not fit in a container and must be shipped on a roll on roll off vehicle ship.  Price is still pretty sharp at  $NZ52500 compared to this one we found for sale in Christchurch.

https://uk-caravans.co.nz/product/special-edition-elddis-chatsworth-860-side-island-bed/

Cheers

Chris

When we come to sell our 2018 Buccaneer Cruiser with air con, AWD motor mover and satellite system, I think I will advertise it in NZ first!  :D

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Have just completed the deal with Prestons on a Supreme 860.  Will be ready for delivery in early May.  They threw in a bike rack and a special price of GBP 23760.00    or   GBP  19800 Excluding VAT  The Supreme has a silver GRP body shell, upgraded upholstery, special front strip roof vent, an extra outside locker access, and a number of other minor additions.  Now the wait.

 

It will be a bit of a change from the 3500KG monster we have just sold.  It has a 4 metre slide out, 1200 watt solar, 600Ah Lithium battery, 250 Litre fresh and grey  water tanks.  2Kw diesel heater,  Samsung 255 lt fridge freezer.  True off grid living with 24 /7   inverter 230 volt power to all outlets.  This has been our permanent home for just on four years, but we now have a home base - Hence the desire to cash up and move to a nice new modern well insulated  light weight van for up to six months touring each year.

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I know a New Zealander who bought three caravans for export last year with the intention to use them as statics on his property back home. He bought one in Germany and the other two in the UK. When I contacted him a couple of weeks ago to ask how everything went he replied that it cost him an awful lot of nerves and he wouldn't do it again. He said that the whole process was much more involved than he bargained for, so I hope that you have done all your homework and you are aware of all that needs to be done.

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I often wonder how John Lee (a member from Christchurch) is going on, he imported his caravan from the UK.

 

 

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I know John Lee well, and he has gone on to own several caravans since his UK import.  He currently has a New Zealand made Oxford.

Our son and two other close friends have privately imported vans from the UK in the last 18 months - All from Preston Caravans as they specialise in export sales. They have excellent rapport with a specialty shipping agent which helps smooth the whole process.  Ask me again in June when we expect to see our van and I will report on the success or otherwise.

 

Cheers

Chris

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Hi All

we are another Kiwi couple who have just imported a new van from the UK.

we used Mathew sharpe from white arches, 

the shipping agent in UK, Dave Cox, is well used to sending vans, and he recommended several retailers, in the end we used                                www.white-arches.co.uk, as they had the van we wanted.

ours Is a single axle van,  but the savings were similar.

the process worked well, we had our VAT refund in our bank as soon as we supplied the shipping invoice to white arches.

shipping was through Unsworth global logistics,  the contact is Dave Cox 

davec@uglog.com.  They also trade through, ship from uk.com

the shipping cost was $5538 NZD  Aug 2018, as it fits in a container.

ours arrived at port Chalmers, Dunedin,  our choice, it could also be to Auckland,tauranga, or Wellington.

NZ certification, self containment certification, tv dish installation etc was all handled most efficiently by Brian from Dunedin Motorhomes.

Yes it is a little nerve wracking sending off large chunks of cash, but we were reassured that several others had used our chosen agent before with no problems.

the only warranty issue has been a USB charger in a light fitting failing.  I sent a photo to Mathew from white arches, and they posted a new one to me  at no charge.

So we say more Kiwis should do this and perhaps the outrageous markups on new and used caravans may come down.

cheers

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I’ve got an Elddis Avante 860, love it.

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I purchased a Elddis Avante 860 new in October 2018 (2019 reg). I like it but would like to point out the following problem I experienced.

 

As the caravan was not supplied with a jack and to cover the possibility of having a puncture or fitting two AL-KO Secure Wheel Locks, I purchased an AL-KO Sidelift Jacking system as recommended by Elddis and AL-KO, suitable for the twin axle caravan.

 

The kit comprises a 1000kg capacity sidelift jack and two pairs of jacking brackets (1 pair of brackets for each side) which are fitted opposite each other behind the wheels and mounted with two bolts through the chasis rail.

 

The near side fitting was a bit fiddly when attempted lying on the floor at the side of the van but was otherwise ok. The fitting of the brackets on the off-side of the caravan however, proved impossible as, during the manufacturing process, all manner of cables and pipes had been fitted close to the chsis rail and in effect were obstructing the fixing site of the inner jacking bracket.

 

Calls and emails to Elddis proved less than helpful and I am now reliant on my local dealer who has agreed to move cables and pipes to undertake fitting for me.

 

If you already have a similar caravan and may be considering using the AL-KO jacking system beware and check now.

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Update on our new van.  It is all taking some time !  However, Prestons now have our van ready for shipping -  Being 8' wide the shipping cost to NZ is more than double. Too wide to fit in a shipping container so has to come on a roll on roll off ship to Auckland.  We will still land our van with all costs covered for NZ$58,000.  There is a Glossop Caravans special Elddis Chatsworth 860 for sale in Christchurch NZ for NZ$83000  (Reduced from $89,995 !!!)

 

Dave Cox from Unsworth Global Logistics is handling the shipping, with the receiving agent in Auckland - Paul Stichbury, organising the NZ gas compliance certification.

 

Photos of our van ready for shipping.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

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