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Mayors and crime comisioners  definitely. Parish council does not do much 

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40 minutes ago, Odd days said:

It would be nice if you’re right but I still think it will all kick off at some point. We don’t even agree on here so how do you expect so many others to get on with different opinions and beliefs and all thinking they are right.

As long as we keep our nuclear deterrent nobody is going to have a go, not even Putin but if JC gets in and gets rid of them we’re doomed our conventional forces are now tiny and our EU partners military are a joke, especially Germany’s.  

That would be Putins dream scenario, we go nuclear free and Trump pulls out of NATO.

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1 hour ago, Black Grouse said:

 

NATO only outmatches Russia until Trump throws a tantrum and withdraws from NATO - he's the loose cannon who's actions could have a dire effect on all Europeans.

 

France Germany and the UK easily outgun Russia without any help from Trump and Putin knows it they spent $170 billion approx on killing people as compared to Putins $66 billion in 2017.

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8 minutes ago, ancell said:

 

France Germany and the UK easily outgun Russia without any help from Trump and Putin knows it they spent $170 billion approx on killing people as compared to Putins $66 billion in 2017.

 

This article https://www. businessinsider. com/how-russian-and-nato-forces-in-europe-compare-2017-8?IR=T  doesn't support that, predicting that countries behind the former Iron Curtain would be over-run in 2-3 days leaving NATO with few options - that's with the US still involved - without the US it would all be over quickly. .

 

 

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18 minutes ago, ancell said:

 

France Germany and the UK easily outgun Russia without any help from Trump and Putin knows it they spent $170 billion approx on killing people as compared to Putins $66 billion in 2017.

Really? Non of Germany’s military kit works, nearly all their Euro Fighters are unairworthy, their rifles don’t work and their general under investment is shocking, Captain Mainwarings lads would do a better job, the French have a tendency to surrender or switch sides within a fortnight and Britain’s Army is about the size of 1 Russian division. If Trump pulls the plug on NATO, we’re doomed.

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4 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

 

This article https://www. businessinsider. com/how-russian-and-nato-forces-in-europe-compare-2017-8?IR=T  doesn't support that, predicting that countries behind the former Iron Curtain would be over-run in 2-3 days leaving NATO with few options - that's with the US still involved - without the US it would all be over quickly. .

 

 

 

Its my good fortune to know one of our military attaches operating within our embassy in Berlin during the height of the Cold War.

He was in East Germany heading ever eastwards before the Berlin Wall dust settled.

He and his fellow spies were amazed at the lack of quality in the Russian weaponry they found and the lack of functionality of the Russian war machine in general.

Our war enthusiasts tend to big up “the Russian Mennace” its good for growing their budgets.

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