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Hi Gents

 

ive got a 2009 Elddis Crusader Super Sorocco and it has a standard fit Truma Ultrastore Rapid (not sure if it’s the 10l or 14l

 

Anyway, I’m thinking of upgrading it to a bigger Heater / storage unit as I’ve got the space for it under the seating area. I’m guess it’s fairly easy to swap over - anyone else done his and if so any recommendations on a new unit and also where I can order it from 

 

As always - thanks guys, I’m always appreciative 

 

Alan

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50 minutes ago, Aij615 said:

I’m guess it’s fairly easy to swap ove

You are wrong there !!

You are best advised to stick with what you have.

 

How much water do you actually need?

 

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I agree with Brecon - not worth the bother.

Graham

 

Unless otherwise stated all posts are my personal opinion 

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Oh really, thought it would be quite straight forward. You know what women are like for washing their hair, it is ok but sometimes another few mins would be great

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Or the cost.

 

Truma only do a 10 litre gas/electric Ultrastore and that's what's often fitted in caravans.

 

They also do an electric only boiler that heats 14 litres, but according to their website it takes 70 minutes to warm it's contents from 15C to 70C. The 10 litre gas/electric one only takes 31 minutes to heat it's contents through the same range on gas only and 29 minutes on electric. If you run gas and electric together it's just 16 minutes.  The 14 litre costs £419 or so for just 4 litres more and takes more than four times as long to reach usable temperature. And if you switch the 10 litre to gas and electric as you shower there'll be more than enough hot water for a whole family to shower.

 

And, of course, if you swap to electric only you'll have no hot water if you end up on a pitch without a hook up at some time in the future.

I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon

but to settle down and write you a line.

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2 hours ago, Aij615 said:

Oh really, thought it would be quite straight forward. You know what women are like for washing their hair, it is ok but sometimes another few mins would be great

No, its not straightforward at all.

There are the considerations of re routing the water pipes, gas pipes, flue, electrics.

As the flue will certainly need to be relocated what would you do with the hole left in the side of the van. ..........it would make  the van worthless for resale or trade in.

 

Remind your wife that you are in a CARAVAN, not a hotel or your own bathroom and water is limited.

If she wants a long shower, use the site facilities, that's what they are there for.

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Instead of removing the Truma, why don’t you just plumb in an additional storage tank, just electric to connect and a simple plumbing job, then once it’s all heated up you’d have 20 or more litres of hot water. Something like this type of tank http://www. watertankswarehouse. co. uk/ourshop/cat_964898-WATER-HEATING. html 

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But with the mains and gas switched on the existing boiler should be able to manage, providing you're reasonable in turning the supply off when soaping etc. In any case, unless you're on a full service pitch you need to be conservative with water as you'll run out of fresh and overtop the waste container. 

I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon

but to settle down and write you a line.

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20 hours ago, Aij615 said:

Hi Gents

 

ive got a 2009 Elddis Crusader Super Sorocco and it has a standard fit Truma Ultrastore Rapid (not sure if it’s the 10l or 14l

 

Anyway, I’m thinking of upgrading it to a bigger Heater / storage unit as I’ve got the space for it under the seating area. I’m guess it’s fairly easy to swap over - anyone else done his and if so any recommendations on a new unit and also where I can order it from 

 

As always - thanks guys, I’m always appreciative 

 

Alan

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There is an easier and cheaper way to do this.

obtain a suitable tank 2, 5, 10 litre whatever you want to use. Instal a pipe fitting at the base of one side and the top of the opposite side.

on the water outgoing side of your heater feed it to the bottom port of the new tank. The pipe that was connected there connect to the top fitting on the new tank with a T piece in the line.

fit another T piece in the incoming cold supply with a non return valve in the line if there isn’t one already.

Obtain a 12v pump from eBay that can stand 80 deg C.

insulate the tank (I used a wooden box and expanding foam).

when you want extra water run the pump, water circulates through the tank and heater and you end up with more hot water.

ive just realised I’ve told you slightly wrong above, the new tank is on the ongoing side to the heater so you don’t have to have hot water in there if you don’t want it. Total cost including a stainless tank was about £80. I did and extra 10 litres on mine, worked like a dream.

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  • 2 years later...

We have just bought a Trigano Silver 420DD Caravan 2013. it does not have any hot water.  Any recommendations as to what water heater to fit and whether to just have an electric one.  Also how easy would it be to fit or should we go to a specialist fitter.  Many thanks

 

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