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In these modern times, we are urged to recycle, recycle, recycle.

 

Fair enough - and I do try to recycle my waste, at home and on site.

 

The last two sites I stayed at had a number of different receptacles, all nicely labelled for different types of waste for recycling.

 

But neither had anything for kitchen waste, and it seems counter intuitive to put potato peelings, mushroom ends etc in the "non-recyclable" bin! Where is the good, old fashioned compost heap??

 

I know different Councils have different ideas of what you can and cannot put in your "Green" bin, but surely, a labelled bin for organics should be essential?

 

Or does nobody else cook whilst on site?

 

 

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In these modern times, we are urged to recycle, recycle, recycle.

 

Fair enough - and I do try to recycle my waste, at home and on site.

 

The last two sites I stayed at had a number of different receptacles, all nicely labelled for different types of waste for recycling.

 

But neither had anything for kitchen waste, and it seems counter intuitive to put potato peelings, mushroom ends etc in the "non-recyclable" bin! Where is the good, old fashioned compost heap??

 

I know different Councils have different ideas of what you can and cannot put in your "Green" bin, but surely, a labelled bin for organics should be essential?

 

Or does nobody else cook whilst on site?

 

 

The problem is that every local authority in the UK has different arrangements about what can be recycled and how - don't blame sites for working within their authorities arrangements.

 

Many places simply don't recycle many of the things that better areas take for granted.

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Commercial properties have to pay for bin collections, can use local authority or any private company they like. Lots of sites I've been to recycle but pay to have the waste separated which is nice

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While local authorities offer recycling in various forms, I suspect site owners have to pay for commercial waste removal. Some will opt to pay for multiple recycling collections, some will opt for the cheapest. And some will pay to have the waste collectors separate and recycle their waste at a central depot. I've seen them as part of my job, deeply unpleasant places, stinking to high heaven and alive with rodents. Not a job I'd want to do.

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At a CMC clubsite recently I noticed that, despite all the helpful labels, people were still putting whatever they liked into whatever receptacle they wanted !

 

I don't know if these people do the same at home, but I know if I did in my area I'd soon get told about it. Or do they get in the holiday mood where it doesn't matter as they think there's no comeback?

 

For instance there was a blue wheely-bin clearly marked "Bottles" and "Glass Only" - it nearly always had someone's ordinary rubbish in it.

 

The warden was dealing with it one time I was at the tap, and he told me that they've given up, and everything goes in one big dump bin because they don't have the time to sort it all out, and if they did they're not allowed to because of the potential hazards.

 

Shame people are so lazy, isn't it?

 

John

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Some sites we have used instruct visitors just to chuck everything in a bag and the Council/ Waste Operator sorts it out, so different councils have different systems. A site that we stayed at last week was one that had this system the last time we stayed there but this time they different bins fir different waste. As far as kitchen waste is concerned there was no bin available so we put ours in the bin marked "other"

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In these modern times, we are urged to recycle, recycle, recycle.

 

Fair enough - and I do try to recycle my waste, at home and on site.

 

The last two sites I stayed at had a number of different receptacles, all nicely labelled for different types of waste for recycling.

 

But neither had anything for kitchen waste, and it seems counter intuitive to put potato peelings, mushroom ends etc in the "non-recyclable" bin! Where is the good, old fashioned compost heap??

 

I know different Councils have different ideas of what you can and cannot put in your "Green" bin, but surely, a labelled bin for organics should be essential?

 

Or does nobody else cook whilst on site?

 

 

I regularly cook from raw ingredients whilst on site. So just the me and thee. :rolleyes: Some caravanners want to get away from cooking and eat out. Many regularly use a BBQ, Cadac or similar or reheat ready meals.

 

I sometimes, depending on length of stay, I take the odd frozen pre-cooked meal to my caravan for re-heating. I do not have a micro wave in the caravan and only occasionally use the microwave at home.

However I try avoid accumulating kitchen waste and sometimes take a small kitchen waste caddy to the caravan as few sites seem to have separate food waste collections for reasons given above. After use in the caravan I take it home with me and put the waste into food waste bin which is emptied weekly by local authority's contractors.

 

The Cooks Corner of the Forum does not seem to have frequent contributions, though that may be because it is a sub forum of the Social Club.

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Some sites we have used instruct visitors just to chuck everything in a bag and the Council/ Waste Operator sorts it out, so different councils have different systems. A site that we stayed at last week was one that had this system the last time we stayed there but this time they different bins fir different waste. As far as kitchen waste is concerned there was no bin available so we put ours in the bin marked "other"

Some sites handle the recycling themselves, separating it themselves, and taking it to a Local Recycling Centre (local tip) as the amount charged by the council to businesses isn't insignificant.

 

Domestic recycling, as we all have at home, is different to businesses which all sites are, even 5-van CL/CS sites.

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Recycling is a mine field. Apparently 80 percent (or something similar) of folk don't know what to recycle at their own home and as recycling systems and protocols change from council to counsel when wehen we are away we stand no chance! Many seemingly recyclable items are unsuitable because they are contaminated or have traces of a non recyclable product in them. Having worked on 2 campsites both of which paid to have their waste sorted after collection it seems to me that if we are really serious about recycling it has to be done, IMHO, centrally.

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One farm site we were on, when asked, said they didn't have a compost heap. But they did have a "green bin" at their attached holiday cottage - but nothing for the site. Maybe given them food for thought. No pun intended.

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Recycling is a mine field. Apparently 80 percent (or something similar) of folk don't know what to recycle at their own home and as recycling systems and protocols change from council to counsel when wehen we are away we stand no chance! Many seemingly recyclable items are unsuitable because they are contaminated or have traces of a non recyclable product in them. Having worked on 2 campsites both of which paid to have their waste sorted after collection it seems to me that if we are really serious about recycling it has to be done, IMHO, centrally.

Plastics are a nightmare - so many different types, often in mixed combinations, which prevents their effective recycling.

 

Cardboard and paper are major issues in some areas - so much is recycled that the bottom has dropped out of the financial return that recycling gives them, and many authorities no longer recycle it.

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Apparently the most lucrative items that are recycled are aluminium cans.

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Apparently the most lucrative items that are recycled are aluminium cans.

Yep!

 

We don't put mine in the council recycling bin - we store them in the garage and once/year take a car-load to the local "scrap merchant" who pays 25p / kilo - the restrictions on cash payments are a pain but it works.

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Yep!

 

We don't put mine in the council recycling bin - we store them in the garage and once/year take a car-load to the local "scrap merchant" who pays 25p / kilo - the restrictions on cash payments are a pain but it works.

Do you use a can crusher? I made one once for a bit of fun. If the cans are crushed they become worthwhile as scrap value.

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Do you use a can crusher? I made one once for a bit of fun. If the cans are crushed they become worthwhile as scrap value.

My right foot! Crush across the middle, then flatten each end in turn.

 

I wouldn't want to store the volume otherwise!

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Locally our recyclable waste is sorted,apart from bottles/jars which are dealt with as a separate entity. Our bins are pre-checked visually,obviously top layer only, before being 'binned'....I have a neighbour who insists in putting his black plastic in with recyclable so his bin doesn't get moved. ...

 

Aluminium cans,rarity so they go in. ...no point in saving them as would take rest of my life to get a kilo!

 

France. ...yes red hot on right bottles in proper bins. ...we were on the Municipal in St. Quentin and we were supervised on putting them out. ..following morning the lorry comes and all the bottle went into same container!

 

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On topic but slightly away from caravaning, I quizzed our local bin guys not too long ago about recycling and their reply stunned me. We're all told to do it, and the bin police come round now again for a spot check to make sure we are, but it all ends up at the same place. The whole lot. Recycled plastic. Bottles. Tins. General waste. One big hole that is then mechanically sorted.

 

Makes you wonder why we bother.

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On the site I am on we separate into different bins, I watched the people who empty the bins and they tipped most of the recycled smaller bins into the large one, so much for taking care.

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As said above there's no consistency. We are lucky that it's one bin for all recyclables and another for general waste (platsic bags, food etc) Both my daughters are in places where they've got 5 different bins and it's a flipping nightmare to try and decide what is what and when it's going to be collecetd.

 

The worst places are where there are terraced houses and each of them has four or five bins outside as there's no where else to store them, it's a real eyesore to see rows of multicoloured bins ranging down the street.

 

The last couple of CMC sites we've been on seem to have rationalised it down to 2 or three bins, general waste, recycling and sometimes an extra one for glass. I'm sure that people would embrace it more if they knew what was going on and it wasn't so complicated.

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On topic but slightly away from caravaning, I quizzed our local bin guys not too long ago about recycling and their reply stunned me. We're all told to do it, and the bin police come round now again for a spot check to make sure we are, but it all ends up at the same place. The whole lot. Recycled plastic. Bottles. Tins. General waste. One big hole that is then mechanically sorted.

 

Makes you wonder why we bother.

 

This reminds me of the stories going around when the councils began all this recycling business . .. despite everyone sorting their rubbish it apparently all ended up in the hold of some massive ship which took it to China and dumped it all in an enormous hole in the ground, and charged us for doing it!

 

John

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I know the company who handles our local waste and they reckon only 30% of household stuff goes to landfill around here,however, a large incinerator has been built about 15 miles away so some of that will be into energy conversion. The contents of the bins here are hand sorted following magnetic separation.

 

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I have a client who is a waste recycler.

 

Other than paper/cardboard and specialist bins for metal waste from engineering companies, they take all their waste as mixed and sort it at their facility.

 

The rationale is that when they were using separate bins, the sorting done by the customers was so dire - they had to sort it anyway when it came in!

 

 

Cheers

Keith

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Most of us till need to be educated at recycling.

 

In the last 2 weeks we have been to two CMC sites and at both sites people would insist in putting plastic containers in a plastic carrier bag even though film is not recyclable plastic.

Talking about recycling to the wardens and they said every day people put glass into recycling bins labelled NO GLASS. And then general waste into bins marked Recycled.

Graham

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Would you credit it!

 

Walking up our road yesterday - bin day.

Our (Non-recyclable) grey bins now sport a brand new sticker - saying, quite obviously, No Recyclable material. Fair enough.

 

Stopped and spoke to our neighbour, who was in the process of bringing in his bin. He removed the sticker, saying "Why do we need these things".

 

And then proceeded to weed his drive and put the weeds into the grey bin.

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