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Hi all

 

We bought a 2nd hand caravan in June this year a 2004 Swift Charisma and it was immaculate inside and out, however after during our 2nd trip out with her we opened the caravan door to an awful what I can only describe like cat wee smell! Having traced it back to the bathroom it appears to be coming from the carpet around the Thetford toilet although it isn't wet. I got down on my hands and knees to have a sniff and nearly passed out with the smell!

 

The only other thing I am worried about is that we we entered the caravan I realised I had left roof vent open in the bathroom from our last trip ( we pitch and store on site) and there had been a lot of rain during visits, but there was tarp on the bathroom floor as I store the waste master in there so I can't see how any damp got on the carpet and how the roof vent is designed I can't see how water would get in anyway but maybe the damp air activated the carpet smell?

 

The carpet is not a removable one so my question is how to clean it?

 

the van is now in winter storage so I am dreading opening her up in the Spring with that smell!!

 

 

Any advice appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Sarah

 

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Hi Sarah.

I don't like carpets in loos anyway, so I would remove it somehow and replace with something that can be cleaned. You will never be able to live with that smell and it is unlikely that you can successfully eliminate the smell.

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Graham

 

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Hello Sarah,

We have a local firm who sell an abundance of cleaning products and a bio carpet cleaner is one of them, I've not used their carpet cleaner but everything else I've used has been very good.

 

I can't see it on their ebay shop but their website is here http://www. specialised-aerosols. co. uk/Product-1189/

 

here's an extract

Bio Carpet Cleaner is completely biodegradable, safe to use and is harmless to humans, animals, and the environment. Bio Carpet Cleaner is a specially formulated microbial product designed to remove stains from carpets and to eliminate odours. Bio Carpet Cleaner is a liquid product which contains stabilised microbial cultures, a blend of biodegradable surfactants and special natural extracts. This helps to penetrate the stain and dissolve the organic material thus permitting its complete removal from carpet fibres. Natural extracts and other ingredients neutralise odours such as those associated with urine vomit and faeces. Bio Carpet cleaner can be used as a spot cleaner or diluted for use in carpet extraction

 

 

 

Paul B

. .......Mondeo Estate & Elddis Avanté 505 (Tobago)

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Get rid of the carpet, it is probably impregnated with unwanted bodily fluids !!

It may even be due to a past leak from the toilet and may have affected the flooring as well.

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In a van that has been produced with fitted carpet in the washroom, they probably installed the toilet over the top of the carpet. If that is the case you need to take the toilet out and remove the carpet. When re-fitting the toilet you will probably have to insert some packers under the toilet to permit the alignment of the toilet where it is bolted through the wall (the screws are behind the fresh water filler door). It's not such an enormous economic job as it probably sounds. The floor is very likely covered with a vinyl covering which is all you really want where the toilet is located. If not, it can easily be covered with a bit of nice Cussionfloor or similar.

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Ern

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I should just give that Ten minutes! Sorry

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Ern

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Why on earth manufacturers/people put carpets under toilet bowls is beyond me.

 

It is bad enough putting a carpet around a bowl, and a job I detested in having to remove when I was plumbing.

Marigolds and holding of breath springs to mind

I agree with WispMan and Brecon; rip it out.

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I should just give that Ten minutes! Sorry

Or light a match :D

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In a van that has been produced with fitted carpet in the washroom, they probably installed the toilet over the top of the carpet. If that is the case you need to take the toilet out and remove the carpet. When re-fitting the toilet you will probably have to insert some packers under the toilet to permit the alignment of the toilet where it is bolted through the wall (the screws are behind the fresh water filler door). It's not such an enormous economic job as it probably sounds. The floor is very likely covered with a vinyl covering which is all you really want where the toilet is located. If not, it can easily be covered with a bit of nice Cussionfloor or similar.

In the installation instructions published by Thetford they advise to push the toilet hard down to the floor so that any carpet is compressed as much as possible, and the aperture in the caravan wall is then determined using the paper template. This means that when you remove the carpet you will have to make up the height difference. One of the padded vinyls will probably just about do this. I mean Cushionfloor or similar.

Ern

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My van had removable carpet there. Found its way into the loft before our first outing!

Ours has removable toilets there. However we also use a pedestal mat in case. However I geberally sit to avoid accidents. :blush:

 

I know . ...... too much info

Alan

 

2005 Nissan X-trail 4WD diesel and Swift Charisma 540 2012 Lunar Clubman ES  2018 Lunar Clubman ES

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i would say by putting the tarp over the carpet you have made the carpet sweat, kept the moisture under the tarp, try carpet & upholstery cleaner

 

mindy

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Ours has removable toilets there. However we also use a pedestal mat in case. However I geberally sit to avoid accidents. :blush:

 

I know . ...... too much info

I thought "removable toilets" were last used in the 80s!

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If the cassette has not been fully pushed home the seal between the toilet bowl and the cassette does not work properly. This can lead to fluids from the toilet bowl leaking into the cassette chamber and you will get an awful smell permeating up into the bathroom. You may wish to take the cassette out and give the cassette chamber a very thorough clean. Worth trying before you start tearing up carpets.

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I had an Elddis caravan a few years back which had the toilet fitted over the carpet just as you describe. After one winter, I foolishly managed to flood the bathroom by filling up the flush tank without re-inserting the drain bung. Elddis had made a poor attempt to seal around the toilet base and it just overflowed into the bathroom. After two weeks, we got fed up with the smell and I removed the toilet and lifted the carpet (just stapled down) and found that the sponge backing was still soaking wet. I refitted the toilet with a thin ply packing piece and relaid the carpet after it had dried but with a cut-out around the toilet base. My subsequent letter to Elddis about the poor sealing and the questionable fitting of the toilet over the carpet was ignored. Nothing new there of course. Removing the toilet was a fairly easy job once I'd identified where the screws were. I suspect that you'll not easily get rid of the smell without doing the same.

 

John M

2017 Skoda Superb Estate 2. 0 Tdi 190; 2014 Swift Challenger 530SE + Powrtouch Evolution

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First thing seems to be to check out the base of the toilet for leaks as suggested, it also has to make sense to make the carpet removable.

 

The carpet can be cleaned, sanitised and deodorised by a professional carpet cleaner. Why not have the rest done at the same time so it's all stick and span and get them protected against spills at the same time.

 

Use an NCCA accredited member - seems to be a few in your area http://www. ncca. co. uk/membershipdirectory. php?gsearch=Search+Now

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Ours has removable toilets there. However we also use a pedestal mat in case. However I geberally sit to avoid accidents. :blush:

 

I know . ...... too much info

 

I thought "removable toilets" were last used in the 80s!

Oops I meant removable carpet.

Alan

 

2005 Nissan X-trail 4WD diesel and Swift Charisma 540 2012 Lunar Clubman ES  2018 Lunar Clubman ES

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First thing seems to be to check out the base of the toilet for leaks as suggested, it also has to make sense to make the carpet removable.

The carpet can be cleaned, sanitised and deodorised by a professional carpet cleaner. Why not have the rest done at the same time so it's all stick and span and get them protected against spills at the same time.

Use an NCCA accredited member - seems to be a few in your area http://www. ncca. co. uk/membershipdirectory. php?gsearch=Search+Now

As a former member of the NCCA I feel you should remove the carpet and replace it.
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With Axminster maybe? Not a believer in urine contamination treatment I take it

Yes I am but my personal view is with a small area like a caravan toilet & shower area I would remove it, saying that Chemspec urine contamination treatment is fantastic & may be the only way to go if you are going to treat the area.

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