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To Fix Or Not To Fix... Mondeo Mk3 Dmf Failing


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Dear All,

 

We have got an 06 Mondeo Mk3 2. 0TDCi 130 Hatch that we use to tow our 05 Bailey Ranger 500/5, MTPLM 1295kg.

 

Recently, the Mondeo has been getting rather clattery and agricultural sounding, and having just had it serviced by the local Ford dealer, they have diagnosed that the Dual Mass Flywheel is starting to fail. This is a big job, involving clutch replacement also, and they quoted in the region of £1200 for this job.

 

Now the car is in good condition otherwise, has done just over 80,000 miles and makes a great tug for our van. We had a nice Witter detachable bar fitted when we got it with the full electrics, and I've fitted parking sensors and a reversing camera which is great for hitching up.

 

The debate we are having is whether it is worth spending the cash to fix up this car, or if we are better to cut our losses and seek a replacement. The TDCi's of this vintage are renowned for DMF's to go around this mileage, but also to have injectors go too which would be another £1k job.

 

I'd love to switch up to a Mk4, but to get a sensible step down in age at a sensible mileage would cost me in the region of £10k for a nice one.

 

I'm also thinking about whether there is a better alternative? I don't have B+E, so am limited to about 2100kg GVW with this caravan, and need around 1500kg kerbweight for a sensible match. I use the car as a commuter solo for about 35 miles daily, so need reasonable economy and I want to stick with a decent size diesel (odd as I am, I like them).

 

I saw a Nissan Qashqai 2. 0dCi advertised as 'great towcar' which I thought looked good, but have read things to suggest that might not be such a good option.

 

Any suggestions out there?

 

Thanks for reading

Chris.

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If it was me Id fix it. Parts can be got for 4-500 pounds. then 4-5 hours labour. Id go to a non dealer backstreet garage to get it done and Im sure would spend maybe 7-800 pounds rather than 1200 and possibly even less. In fact Ive seen your clutch on ebay for 279.

 

http://www. ebay. co. uk/itm/FORD-MONDEO-2-0-TDI-5SPEED-LUK-DUAL-MASS-DMF-FLYWHEEL-CLUTCH-CSC-/250944977856?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6d7c7bc0

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Fix it. Don't go to that garage though. Sounds way to expensive to me for a ford!

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You can get it fixed at a much better price then decide whether to keep the car or not, at your convenience without the pressure.

 

John.

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That does sound a lot. We were vaguely quoted £1000 on our Alfa 159 (clutch and DMF) which had done about 110k. Vaguely as we never got a formal quote.

 

We traded it in as we wanted to try AWD to make extracting the 'van in winter easier. With your mileage, fairly exacting KW vs GVW requirements and the fact that you are happy with it, I'd keep and repair.

 

The great thing with cars over 4 years or so is that I feel no need to use dealers and can search out an independent instead.

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I'd guess that if it doesn't sound too good then it won't command much or a price on the s/h or p/x market.

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I'd guess that if it doesn't sound too good then it won't command much or a price on the s/h or p/x market.

 

True, but if you are trading in a lot of places don't care. They go on the book price and it's up to you whether or not it's fair or not. The dealer didn't even see ours until the day we picked up the new car as the day we made the deal we took the other car.

 

That said, they have now gone bust!

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If you're happy with the car then you'd be best to just get it fixed. However a Ford dealer isn't the place to have it done. Try a few local independent garages to get a more sensible quote for the work.

If it's not smoking excessively, and runs well, then I wouldn't be worrying about the injectors

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Definitely an independent, not a main dealer, around £800.

I asked in the main dealer workshop if the fitters could

recommend an independent and they did . .... half a mile from me!

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I had a Mk 3 before my present car, never had the problems but was wary of it just over a year ago when the mileage got into the problem region. So I costed having everything changed. A local garage, very very highly recommended with a superb reputation for doing things properly, quoted me £625 to replace the clutch and DMF with a sollid flywheel and clutch. Had I not been seduced by my present car that is what I would have done.

With a B licence the mk3 is a better car to have than the mk4 you can tow anything with it up to a MTPLM of 1475kg, with the mk4 that drops to 1275kg.

Bill

 

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Thanks for the replies everyone, especially Bill Lord, that's a very good point.

 

Don't suppose anyone knows a decent independent garage in or around Chichester, West Sussex?

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Thanks for the replies everyone, especially Bill Lord, that's a very good point.

 

Don't suppose anyone knows a decent independent garage in or around Chichester, West Sussex?

Try the good garage scheme

http://www. goodgaragescheme. com/pages/map. aspx?loc=chichester

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Fix it, it's a good car, I had a mk3 Mondeo for a while and was quoted around £700 for a new DPF which is complete with clutch at a number of clutch specialists, injectors, look for a specialist, only rich people would ave these jobs done by Ford.

Don't be tempted by a solid flywheel, I have read many articles where people have one to save a few quid and everyone regretted it as it was nowhere near as good to drive.

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I had a Mk 3 before my present car, never had the problems but was wary of it just over a year ago when the mileage got into the problem region. So I costed having everything changed. A local garage, very very highly recommended with a superb reputation for doing things properly, quoted me £625 to replace the clutch and DMF with a sollid flywheel and clutch. Had I not been seduced by my present car that is what I would have done.

With a B licence the mk3 is a better car to have than the mk4 you can tow anything with it up to a MTPLM of 1475kg, with the mk4 that drops to 1275kg.

Very bad move changing to solid flywheel, the dmf is there to take shocks out of the system, by replacing the dmf with a solid flywheel, the transmission and drive train takes the shocks instead leading to gearbox and driveshaft issues.
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