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  1. 36 minutes ago, Black Grouse said:

    I believe contributor Lutz used one for a while.


    Yes, I towed an 1800kg single axle with an RX400h for over 6 years. It was a nice car. The biggest disadvantage was its relative thirst when towing, but solo and particular in town traffic when running a lot on electric only, it returned very respectable fuel consumption figures for its size and weight. A couple of further negative comments I would make about the RX400h, but I'm told they were resolved for the later RX450h, were the much too small starter battery (there simply wasn't enough space under the bonnet for a larger one) and its torque sensitive steering, especially when pulling away from traffic lights with the caravan on the back. (The starter battery was identical to the one in the Nissan Micra). Apart from that it was a very refined car and to a certain extent I'm sorry I parted with it.

  2. The car I regret parting with the most was my Jensen Healey, ROK73M, bought new as a left hand drive export home delivery model for £1845 (VAT exempt). Had its first service done before leaving the the UK, the second service in Germany, and the last in the USA before I returned it to Germany and sold it there. And most of the time it remained on UK export plates (they had a red border at the time), so that was almost 2 years of motoring without ever paying any VAT or vehicle tax until I finally got round to registering it in Germany. I sold it for the same price that I paid for it new. As a result it was the cheapest bit of motoring I ever did.

  3. By the time I was 21 I was already on my second car. The first was an absolutely standard Vauxhall Viva HA, bought new right on my financial limit because I didn't have the cash to spend another £15 for disc brakes (a factory-fitted on cost option). I sold it after 18 months and bought a year old two door Ford Corsair (very rare model that).

  4. 33 minutes ago, Easy T said:


    I can see the problem - putting stuff into boxes at the front every time you travel.


    Most of the 'stuff' at the front of the caravan, such as the spare wheel, levelling gear and the EHU cable in the front locker, the satellite gear, the chairs and the table that go inside the awning is always there and doesn't have to be loaded every time I travel.

  5. 10 minutes ago, Woodentop said:


    Someone should have told Baileys about that before they designed the Unicorn Seville S4. Noseweight with just the van + mover + battery - 34Kg!!  Most we have ever managed is 53Kg - but with the cooker and gas box at the back and the toilet not much forward what do you expect?

    I can’t quite see the problem. When I picked up my new caravan from the dealer it had a noseweight of around 25kg, but I have absolutely no difficulty in achieving the towcar‘s limit of 80kg when it’s fully loaded.

  6. 1 hour ago, charlieboy2608 said:

    After reading the whole kerb weight debate has anybody asked the OP whether its a diesel or petrol mini-or is it only available in one or the other?

    Obviously this could make a big impact on their towing experience!


    I don't see that it should necessarily have a big impact. Suffice to say that he confirms the car is approved to tow 1300kg max.

  7. 17 minutes ago, charlieboy2608 said:

    BUT only if loaded properly of course!!...otherwise you have introduced a great big play ground seesaw......


    Even if the load distribution is unfavourable, a longer caravan will have a lower frequency of oscillation. It will therefore be easier to regain control should instability occur than a short caravan which will swing quicker.

  8. JTQ is absolutely right. Quite apart from weight considerations, a change of towing vehicle can have a very big influence, both positive or negative. The length of the caravan is actually more likely to have a steadying influence.

  9. 3 minutes ago, Wellys and Mac said:

    When it comes to loading, my mantra is heavy car light van.


    I replaced my car in june, its 100kg lighter than its predecessor, and on the first tow it really showed, very twitchy.


    100kg shouldn’t make such a big difference. I strongly suspect that there are further factors which also contribute towards the change.


    9 hours ago, Easy T said:

    That's why I say if you have the car weigh it. It ca be easier if you really want to know


    Probably the best idea, too. It‘ll be as close as you‘ll ever get to a true kerbweight.

  11. I won't dwell on the subject any longer but the figure that Mercedes has quoted for your GLC is mass in running order and not kerbweight.

    The snag about using the mass in running order figure is that it only applies to the vehicle that Mercedes submitted for type approval and not your specific car. In some cases there can be a difference between mass in running order and the actual mass of the particular vehicle in question of as much as 150kg.


  12. Directive 92/21/EEC doesn't define kerbweight. In fact it doesn't even mention the term 'kerbweight'. It only refers to 'mass in running order'. In any case it has since been superseded by 1230/2012/EC and that also refers to 'actual mass of the vehicle', but not to kerbweight.

  13. 3 minutes ago, Easy T said:

    Fair enough but for my usage I'll not worry too much about the 'definition' with regars to notional 85% guidance as I rarely see a tow car moving without a driver


    True, but then the organisations that make the 85% weight ratio recommendation shouldn't use the term kerbweight.

  14. 13 minutes ago, Easy T said:

    I am sure that you have said, not that long ago, that there is no proper definition of kerb weight :) am I wrong?

    The definition that I am using is one that I have seen often used Lutz


    Kerbweight is defined, although not very clearly, in The Road Traffic Act 1988, but leaving ambiguities aside for a minute, it is quite clear that it's with a full tank and without the driver.


  15. 6 minutes ago, Easy T said:

    Not totally or at all. There is a rule of thumb - guidance that suggests that a novice drive should try and keep the caravan close to 85% of the weight of car + 90% fuel tank+ 75kg for driver. That is all. It is not on tablets of stone. 


    Not wishing to confuse the newbie, but you shouldn't have said 90% fuel tank nor 75kg for the driver, but a full fuel tank and no driver because that's what kerbweight is and the recommendation is always based on kerbweight.

  16. When we took our caravan to Iceland, high vehicles, including caravans were loaded first on the ferry and were consequently right up front. However, at the time, and because of potential rough seas, the ferry had only one door at the rear, so I had to reverse all the way inside the ferry from the bow to the back, without any possibility of turning the outfit round. That's where I learnt to reverse in a dead straight line for several hundred feet.

  17. 1 hour ago, Lozzyf said:

    So with that scenario, printed MIRO is a complete waste of paper. ..  surely the manufacturers should take some responsibility?  Isn’t that like food manufacturers stating there is 50% choc solids . . . .and there isn’t ?  (I am being the devils advocate!! )


    The manufacturer is under no obligation to plate the MIRO. Personally, I wouldn’t trust any stated MIRO, but accept it only as a rough guide. I think you’d be lucky if the actual unladen weight is within 30kg of the published MIRO.


  18. 2 hours ago, kiaboy said:

    Maybe you could contact Bailey and Coachman and advise them of their error??


    Maybe there is no error. If there is a statutory plate elsewhere on the caravan, that’s good enough. Griff’s reply shows that Swift have got it right.

  19. 1 hour ago, Durbanite said:

    It is stated in the handbook plus as they say MIRO is how it comes from the factory.  :D


    How it comes out of the factory doesn't necessarily mean that it's standard.

    The MIRO is a single generic figure applicable to all caravans of the same type and model and covered by the same type approval, regardless of any further factory-fitted options. The MIRO displayed on the caravan should be the same as the MIRO in the type approval documentation.

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