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    Carcassonne in the Aude, France
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    2001 BMW 530D Touring
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    2006 Hobby 540 UFe Excelsior

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  1. Joeressen have a very good reputation, there are many good references for them on the Hobby Owners Club forum. I haven't purchased from them myself but they were extremely helpful when I was sorting out provenance & paperwork for a Hobby we experted from the UK to France. . Similarly Decuyper at Poperinge in Belgium have an excellent reputation with good recommendations on the Hobby Owners Club forum. Both companies have people who speak excellent English and there are a number of owners who take their 'vans back each year for servicing.
  2. I wasn't talking about list prices, I was referring to the prices actually paid in France, whether new or second-hand, and comparing them to prices actually paid in UK, Belgium & Germany.
  3. OK, then you pay the price including VAT in the dealer's country, then notify the UK authorities and pay the UK VAT when you import it. Having done that you reclaim the VAT from the dealer, as the meerkats say "simples". Only applies to the modes of transport that fall within the definition of "new means of transport" (that doesn't include caravans). It is all explained here: http://customs. hmrc. gov. uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp. portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_CL_000165#P6_55
  4. Checking this would be prudent, http://customs. hmrc. gov. uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp. portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_CL_000165#P6_55 Of course you can never buy anything as an EU resident, within the EU net of VAT, you either pay VAT in the country of the seller or in your country.
  5. When did you do that, was it before or after the changes in the regulations?
  6. That is excellent, when looking at the prices of new Hobby 'vans they are significantly more expensive in France than they are in Germany.
  7. As far as these particular regulations apply (and don't forget they don't apply to caravans) that would be true if the dealer were selling it to a customer outside the EU, otherwise the dealer has to comply with the EU wide regulations and charge VAT at the rate applicable to the dealer's country or have proof that the buyer has paid the VAT in his country. There are specific regulations concerning New Means of Transport (as explained above) or purchases of over 100,000 euros net of VAT. That is what we are talking about here.
  8. Hi, there are catalogues & manuals as well as several posts about buying Hoby 'vans from abroad on the Hobby Owners Club forum hobbyownersclub. org. With the strength of the pound against the euro it is a good time to buy on the continent. It is not the same in all countries though. For instance, new & second-hand 'vans are expensive in France. In Belgium & Germany excellent deals are available on new 'vans, for second-hand 'vans the choice is bigger but the savings are not so good. 26. 5k euros is very expensive, sounds more like a French price than a German or Belgium price. Motor movers & awnings tend to be more expensive (a lot more in the case of motor movers) than in the UK, For my 'vans I have bought motor movers in the UK and fitted them myself and saved 100s of euros over the price in France.
  9. The total cost in Germany is significantly less than in the UK, thus it is still cheaper even though the VAT is higher due to both the exchange rate and the premium pricing applied to caravans in the UK.
  10. According to the rules you can either: pay the VAT in your Home country before collecting the vehicle, you will then get a certificate to say you paid the VAT and the dealer will charge you the net of VAT price. or pay the VAT inclusive price to the dealer, then pay the VAT due in your Home country and then reclaim the VAT from the dealer. The dealer can't sell you the vehicle net of VAT without proof you've paid the VAT in your Home country.
  11. You just need to have the evidence that you have paid the VAT in your country otherwise you'll have to pay it in the country of purchase and reclaim it from the dealer when you have the paperwork to prove you have paid it in your own country. There are similar rules that apply if the ex-VAT value of the purchase exceeds 100,000 Euros (or the equivalent sterling value which is determined each year).
  12. The big discrepancy between many foreign regulations on upholstery fire resistance and the British regs is the labelling, most foreign regulations do not have a requirement to have permanently attached labeling specifying the fire resistant properties of the covering and padding. Harmonisation of the regulations across Europe is held up due to disagreements on which and how many languages to use on the labels. For the other things such as mains sockets and gas regulator, you can change them if you wish but there is no need. They comply with the same International/EU regulations that UK 'vans do. As regards the door being on the "wrong" side that is literally down to each persons point of view, and which way round you pitch your 'van
  13. Came back to the thread after a being away for a while. Of course, not realising what the rules are is no defence but knowing what the rules are and that they are there "to be broken" is a different category entirely. No wonder Hobby owners (of which I am one) have to contend with so much (un?)justifiable prejudice.
  14. Posted Today, 05:36 PM Hi, only just picked up on this topic as I haven't been on here for a while: Mains sockets are not a problem, you can change them to UK style 3 pin if you wish (there are replacement inserts available from Becker who make the sockets on many German 'vans) or stick with the Schuko type and put Schuko plugs on appliances or use good quality adaptors. Many people choose the later route. Whether you go for a bulkhead mounted gas regulator or stick with a bottle mounted one is a matter of personal preference. Provided they comply with the EU norms and the manufacturers requirement you can use either. The upholstery might be a problem when you sell the 'van. When a UK trader sells a caravan the upholstery needs to comply with fire regulations (both coverings and internals) and be labelled as complying. This requirement doesn't apply to private imports. The positioning of the rear fog light may be a problem, don't know whether the latest ones are equipped on both sides, some were only fitted with a rear fog light on the left which doesn't conform to UK regs. Joeressens at Mönchengladbach in Germany & DeCuyper at Poperinge in Belgium have a very good reputation. There are many people on the Hobby Owners Club forum who have purchased caravans in Germany or Belgium, lots of information on there about how to do it successfully.
  15. Hi, only just picked up on this topic as I haven't been on here for a while: Mains sockets are not a problem, you can change them to UK style 3 pin if you wish (there are replacement inserts available from Becker who make the sockets on many German 'vans) or stick with the Schuko type and put Schuko plugs on appliances or use good quality adaptors. Many people choose the later route. Whether you go for a bulkhead mounted gas regulator or stick with a bottle mounted one is a matter of personal preference. Provided they comply with the EU norms and the manufacturers requirement you can use either. The upholstery might be a problem when you sell the 'van. When a UK trader sells a caravan the upholstery needs to comply with fire regulations (both coverings and internals) and be labelled as complying. This requirement doesn't apply to private imports. The positioning of the rear fog light may be a problem, don't know whether the latest ones are equipped on both sides, some were only fitted with a rear fog light on the left which doesn't conform to UK regs. There are many people on the Hobby Owners Club forum who have purchased caravans in Germany or Belgium, lots of information on there about how to do it.
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