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About Tourershine

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  • Birthday 11/10/1974

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  1. Just to show you how they should look, here's a couple of Senator Series 6's we've restored. They should have a glassy consistent finish. This isn't a temporary fix, it's permanent if cared for in the right way, with the correct products.
  2. Your side panel issues are the single most common problem we see are deal with all the time. The Bailey side panels account for around 30% of the Caravans we Restore, that's how common the issue is. There are reasons for this, but it can be fixed. If you scroll to the bottom of my blog page in the link at the bottom of my post, you will see one we Restored and blogged, plus a bit further up, another one that shows you how to identify paint repairs. It's a unique problem that effects all the pre alu-tech models. The Senator often looks worse below the Gold pin stripe, but it effects the full sides. Front and Rear panels are ABS which is a far better quality panel than GRP, and tends to hold it's lustre far longer. Be very careful what products you use. A wax won't do anything other than make it look far worse in the form of a very patchy finish. Other commonly used products like t-cut are extremely dangerous to use, and will remove the paint in seconds. Lastly, anyone else reading this with this problem, bare in mind that professional companies like us, will not take on jobs that have been attempted beforehand by someone else, and left things looking worse. Simple reason being, it's an extremely delicate job with very little tolerance to remove the damaged/oxidised surface and bring the sides up like new. Once this has been attempted and failed, the tolerance we needed to do the job properly has been removed, we have nothing left to work with, meaning the chance of going through the paint is far too high for us to rectify the work.
  3. Sadly an inaccurate response we hear from many manufactures, or dealers that simply don't actually know the why's and what's, and just guess. Bailey haven't had a plastic front and rear panel since around 10 years ago with the older Senator, Pageant and Ranger. It's all GRP apart from the lower 'bumper' panels, which are ABS. Maybe if the manufactures are not sure what to use, or why things change colour, or fade, or don't fade, or even how to stop all this from happening, they should call someone who can school them, because that's what they do everyday instead of giving owners confusing, conflicting and often frankly daft aftercare advice.
  4. Just Caravans and Motorhomes as a business thankfully. I'd never step into the car detailing business simply because it's a saturated industry and hard to make a good living from. Many people just cannot see or justify the added value in the sort of things we do, making vehicle detailing and paint correction a very tough business to be in, unless you have huge flashy premises. My passion is mainly the Restoration work we carry out, which accounts for around 85% of what we do now. The transformation from dull, discoloured and tired looking Caravans and Motorhomes, to a showroom fresh finish is very rewarding, even still now, 10 years later. Paul
  5. SRP is perfectly sufficient for the protection on Fibreglass, plastic and aluminium. We've been using it for years as a simple protection and seen it last as long as 12 months, and regardless on what it states on the Autoglym website, it works perfectly fine. Please bare in mind that much of the advice on Autoglym's website is for a painted and lacquered surface, not a gelcoat, like the Bailey GRP. Yes SRP has a very mild abrasive, but it's by no means harsh enough to cause any adverse effects on the tough GRP surfaces. I have the exact same material on my Motorhome, and use SRP a couple of times a year, and my Motorhome still looks like brand new at nearly 5 years old. Extra gloss is not a product we'd ever use on these surfaces simply because it's no more benefit than simply using SRP, which is a lot easier to work with. The same goes for HD wax. This is designed for metallic finishes, and again, of no extra benefit to GRP. We've tried and tested all these products for nearly a decade now, and nothing compares to the longevity, ease of application and performance of SRP on Caravans and Motorhomes. (the other products mentioned, work great on your cars) As for swirls, and SRP masking these, you're predominately working with surfaces that are light in colour, and swirls are not something that is a huge issue in this industry, against say a Black, or very dark painted finishes. The main places most Caravan owners will see swirls are darker windows, and SRP is not a product to be used on acrylic or perspex, because it contains petroleum, an ingredient that many window manufactures seem to blame for micro-fracturing, which seems to have little or zero evidence of this claim, but they still use it. Autoglym offer enough products for the average Caravan owner to be able to keep their purchase in brand new condition for years, and SRP one of this range. Lastly. Bailey's advice about not using any products that contain Carnauba, yet they advise the use of 'washing detergents' as a washing aid, go directly against our years of knowledge, but it's their advice, and I advise you follow it, just skip/ignore the part about 'washing detergents' There are far better/safer products available.
  6. Fair comment, specially when we are potentially half the price you've been quoted. That goes for anyone being quoted those types of prices. No one should be paying over £300 max at a dealership. It's a little more technical than a glorified wax, but again, provided you keep up the waxing a few times a year, you shouldn't see any of the common fading issues, and future cleans should be far easier. We tend to work for those that want the peace of mind that their Caravan is protected properly, so they can just get on and enjoy it. Plus they want a company they can trust, or watch the work being carried out.
  7. You've kind of answered your own question. If you are happy to wax your Caravan a couple of times a year, then there's really no benefit of a paint sealer in this circumstance. You will have to keep this up, miss a year and you will notice the difference pretty quickly. We often ask if this is the route an owner will be taking, and advise they don't really need to pay for a paint sealer to be applied by us. It might not be the best way to run a business, but I find if you are open and honest with a person, this often leads to them recommending you to others anyway. As for the interior protection, this isn't something we offer, and from around 2015, a lot of Caravan furnishings already have fabric protection from new, so worth looking through your Caravan information to see if this is already applied. Lastly, just bare in mind a Caravan is not a Car and the products needed are not always the same when you are working with gelcoats, fibreglasses, aluminium and plastics. Anyone advising the use of 'washing detergents' is just being lazy with their poor aftercare advice. As always, thank you for the above recommendations, they don't ever go unnoticed by myself.
  8. I've been a Trade member, and supporter of CaravanTalk for many years now. I'm a daily visitor, but a rare poster these days, simply because i'm a Trade member, and tend to only comment if i'm mentioned or I can directly help someone with our knowledge or skills. I've just noticed yet another recommendation for our work from yesterday, and felt it was time to say a personal thanks. To quickly explain, we are going into our 12th year with my business, and much of this longevity is due to the constant support from forum members on Caravantalk, along with several other Motorhome forums. We haven't advertised my business for the last 10 years, and a large percentage of our yearly work comes directly from you guys and your recommendations. I know there are many hard core fans that have used us on several occasions on here, and you are often telling others about our work, but there are also others that haven't used us, and yet still recommend us just because of what you read. We still only work for the public. Nothing big has changed with our attitude or ethos from the beginning. I still love my job, and I still enjoy meeting Caravan and Motorhome owners. Our passion for this industry and my own personal hobby is why we still wake up every morning and look forward to what the day brings. Much of what we are about is down to places like this from real people, and real experiences. In an industry that can be a minefield of up's and downs, I count myself lucky that such a niche slice of this amazing pastime has given me a long term business that enables me to work, and enjoy my own Motorhome. So from myself, and my colleague Lee, we both thank you all for the constant support. Paul
  9. Nothing accounts for price differences in this industry when you have quotes for bodywork, it's an anomaly that only seems to effect Caravan and Motorhome dealerships. We deal with the public every day and see damage like this and worse, with estimates that have huge variations in price and works that needs doing. Any damage we deal with goes directly through only the one Bodyshop we trust. This isn't anything to do with a dealer, and they are a car bodyshop, but still insurance approved, and far more realistic when it comes to pricing repairs. I deal with any parts required for them. I've lost count of the amount of times we get told a sides been replaced on a Caravan, only to find it hasn't, and the damage has been repaired (badly, or we wouldn't be able to see it so obviously) and the insurance company charged an insane amount of money for a very sub standard job. In my experience, looking at the damage on your picture, the lower quote is perfectly reasonable and the sort of money our bodyshop would charge, and the higher quote will not come anywhere near what a dealer would want to replace a side. The difference in quotes is simply the 'anomaly' we refer to.
  10. A general all round window cleaner we recommend is Autoglym FastGlass. It's Acrylic and Perspex safe, as stated on the bottle. I agree with you Gordon. We've also seen stickers that haven't caused issues, and crazing that's not caused by stickers. I think at the end of the day, the manufactures won't produce hard evidence of the reasons windows do fracture over long or short periods of time, so it's up to owners to try and prevent where they can. Like I said about my own Motorhome, this didn't have stickers, or use any products other than what's stated as safe, and yet 3 still fractured, and the 4th didn't which ironically is exactly the same as the other 3 on the roof. (work that one out. ..) I suspect like you, that the UV has something to do with this issue, and many other unexplained issues with plastics and fibreglasses. For me, I find preventative measures are always better than a cure, because it these rare situations, there isn't a real cure, other than an expensive new window.
  11. Just a quick follow up to my sticker explanation, this is a visual example of what we see created by stickers on windows all the time. I think once you see just what damage these things can cause, it might make owners think twice before sticking them on their windows.
  12. My wife hit me the hardest only 2 weeks ago, when our washing machine finally packed up, and she made me pay for a new one, blaming the cloths for the collapsed main bearing. To be fair to her, I imagine the weight of all my cloths when they are wet from the machine, and the spinning action cannot do the machine much good.
  13. Sorry, yes. I did just assume most people knew that you shouldn't use fabric conditioner with any form of towel. Also, they fluff back up better when dried in a tumble dryer.
  14. Although I wouldn't advise the use of any products containing Petroleum, this is actually an unproven theory from our experience. The only reason we know it's unproven is because 3 out of 4 of my own Motorhome roof lights microfractured 2 years after the Motorhome was new. The Motorhome was ordered by myself, and delivered to my dealer with strict instructions not to touch the exterior with anything, which they agreed with. This way I knew the exact history and products used on my MH, and I was able to go into the dealers and carry out all the exterior prep and sealant work myself. We use an acrylic/perspex safe product, and have for over a decade with no effects, yet mine crazed up after 2 years. I sent a detailed e. mail to the roof light manufacture, explaining what we do for a living, and the products used on my MH after they rejected the warranty claim, spouting that petroleum products must of been used. I explained in detail that no one from the manufacture to me had touched the surfaces with anything other than what they recommend, showing proof of the products used, and our obvious history as a business that specialises in this exact field. I never received a reply from the window manufacture, but I did receive 3 new roof lights free of charge, delivered straight to my dealers and passed onto me to fit. I'm not sure why this petroleum fact has always been banded around, and again to be safe, I wouldn't advise using these products, but in my experience there's only one thing that's obvious to cause micro fracturing, and that's vinyl stickers on the windows. We've seen dealer stickers, Caravan Club stickers, alarm stickers, and even storage site numbers destroy acrylic windows dozens of times, yet people still fit them. They don't destroy the windows immediately, and take several years, but once this has happened, the windows tend to be way out of any warranty anyway. Anyone that's suffered this, will know how obvious it is the sticker that's caused the problem, because it radiates outwards from where the sticker is placed. My advice is always use acrylic safe products and remove any stickers on the inside or outside of your windows to be on the safe side. Lastly, the worst offending stickers are those type that are not sticky, and designed to be removed and used again.
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