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Tourershine

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  • Birthday 11/10/1974

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    Leicestershire.
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    2017 VW T6 204 DSG Kombi
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  1. We pass all our interior work to these guys https://www.regalfurnishings.co.uk They do a really nice job, and all the customers I send there are over the moon with the turnaround and results.
  2. After bouncing messages back and forth with the OP, this situation is not as straight forward as people might imagine. There is no real 'one way' DIY answer when it comes to this type of damage and fix. Ironically, we had a 2009 Lunar only yesterday in Leicester, that the owners storage site had sprayed a shed with exactly the same paint as this situation. As you'd expect, the storage owners tried a few things, the caravan owner tried a few other things, but after exhausting all the daft/bizarre internet remedies and advice they both realised this isn't a straight forward problem. Unfortunately some of the remedies they'd tried removed not only the shed paint, but also the caravan paint, thankfully they'd tested the worst products on the roof, where it's not so obvious to the owner in the future. The biggest consideration in these situation are 2 things: How old is the Caravan, and what is it constructed from. Yesterdays Lunar was a 2009, and the sides were aluminium, front and rear ABS. From experience the aluminium will be oxidised on the sides of a Lunar, the ABS won't be. This means the paint that hits the oxidised side will absorb into the oxidation, making it very difficult to remove, and even when you do finally remove the spots, you are left with a panel that has dozens of little patches. The fix is a full machine polish. Removing the oxidation across the whole side, thus removing the paint spots and as per yesterdays job, the whole Caravan looking like new again. The ABS is slightly different, because it still has it's shine, and therefor far easier to remove the spots with a very sight machine polish, without the need to do the full panel, although it makes sense to do it anyway. As for the above Caravan. This is a 2011 Bailey Orion. A full GRP construction, and totally normal to be dull at this age, and much newer in many cases. GRP is worse than aluminium for absorbing this type of damage, and it's far harder to restore. Any of the above remedies may of left the Caravan looking potentially worse, and very patchy. This only real fix, is again Restore the full panel, leaving it consistently glossy top to bottom. The issue in this situation is where do you stop?? The whole Caravan is dull, which is normal for this make and model. Do you restore the full Caravan, or do you fix the effected panel, leaving one glossy panel, and the rest dull. A newer Caravan, or one that's been correctly paint sealed from new, or even one that the owner waxes a couple of times a year might of been a totally different story with this this type of damage, but again it's sometimes easier to ask people like myself, who is more than happy to advise the best course of action, even if that means we don't actually do the job, rather than following some internet advice, that can potentially make things far worse. I might not get too involved on here anymore unless it's directly to do with my name, or my experience, but I do pop in every few days to have a quick read, and any PMs are sent directly to my phone, meaning i'm pretty quick at picking them up. I've said it several times before, but will again. I'm here to offer advice if it's not an obvious fix. People often ask why I give away this time, and it's simple. Without places like this, my business wouldn't be into it's 12th year, and for those that I just advise the best way forward, there are 10 fold those that have us do the work. Oh and as for yesterdays Lunar, the storage owners paid for all the work. This meant the Lunar owner had a full Restoration, turning their dull tired looking Caravan, back to it's factory shine, for the sake of a few spots of paint. They were rather happy as you'd expect
  3. Obviously thanks for the above recommendations. I will explain a little about the Bailey. A Bailey between 2000-2010 is pretty much the most common Caravan we rectify, simply because they have this issue with their side panels. Most other manufactures have problems with front panels, and sometimes rear panels, depending if they are GRP or ABS or even a mixture of both. Bailey used the better quality ABS front and rear panels, and therefor a pre All-tech Bailey issue is 90% the sides that cause problems. The Senator often looks worse below the Gold stripe, but will have issues top to bottom. The Pageant is a consistent cloudy top to bottom, as is the Ranger. The Ranger also has shrinking issues with their decals, but that's another story. Bailey will claim they've never heard of it. Dealers will often claim it cannot be rectified without being re-painted at huge costs. We've literally fixed 100's of them, and not once have we failed to achieve a glassy shine, as many of our Bailey Customers on here will testify. If the OP is seeing an inconsistent shine or patchy finish, this is almost always previous paintwork from damage in the past, and it's very common. Caught early enough and we can blend it back in. One of each of the Bailey range that we've Restored. All of these would of had exactly the same dull/cloudy/patchy side panels, and all looked like new once we'd finished with them. There is no real compromise on finish, they all Restore up lovely, and with the correct aftercare, they all last as long as they are maintained. Although these are all pre alu-tech models, the later Alutech has it's own problems, and again a very common Caravan for our Restoration work. Thankfully 99% of what we see, is perfectly fixable by us. Lastly, products like Super Resin and similar are fine on a glossy surface, but won't do anything to a faded finish, other than often look worse. You don't need to take my word of it, try it yourself and see the results. A friendly word of warning: As a business, we do not get involved with previous attempts at carrying out this kind of specialist work. We see far too often the results of 'valet companies' dealers and all sorts that have gone full on with a machine polisher and compounds. This often removes the tolerance we needed to do the job correctly, and the risk of us going through the paint is too high. So we no longer fix other peoples work for this reason.
  4. Yes, we cover the whole country. I was in Sandwich 2 days ago. If you need to enquire, just drop me an email enquiries@tourershine.co.uk Please bare in mind, we are into June/July now, and they are filling fast. 6-8 week lead times are pretty normal for us.
  5. Can I just clarify that wasn't anything to do with our work
  6. This is only really applicable if you live in Scotland, where we visit around 5 times a year (been twice already) We group all Scottish work together and carefully plan logistics that start us in one location, working our way round Scotland, until every job is done over several days. As Gordon suggested, it takes very difficult planning to get around 6-10 separate customers, in different locations to agree to certain times and dates. It only takes one customer to not be able to do a certain date or time, for the whole planning process to need re-starting. Difficult, but well worth it, we love our Scottish trips, and ended up in Inverness only a couple of weeks ago, where we went through this below, to a very nice sunny work location. (thankfully we still had the winter tyres on) Every other location in the country, it's done in a single day, meaning very early starts, a lot of miles covered, and a different part of the country every day of the week. (most of our jobs are a full days work) As for the comments above, this is why we do what we do, and it's all worth it, so
  7. I will add that to the list of benefits of our Restoration service
  8. Just to show you how they should look, here's a couple of Senator Series 6's we've restored. They should have a glassy consistent finish. This isn't a temporary fix, it's permanent if cared for in the right way, with the correct products.
  9. Your side panel issues are the single most common problem we see are deal with all the time. The Bailey side panels account for around 30% of the Caravans we Restore, that's how common the issue is. There are reasons for this, but it can be fixed. If you scroll to the bottom of my blog page in the link at the bottom of my post, you will see one we Restored and blogged, plus a bit further up, another one that shows you how to identify paint repairs. It's a unique problem that effects all the pre alu-tech models. The Senator often looks worse below the Gold pin stripe, but it effects the full sides. Front and Rear panels are ABS which is a far better quality panel than GRP, and tends to hold it's lustre far longer. Be very careful what products you use. A wax won't do anything other than make it look far worse in the form of a very patchy finish. Other commonly used products like t-cut are extremely dangerous to use, and will remove the paint in seconds. Lastly, anyone else reading this with this problem, bare in mind that professional companies like us, will not take on jobs that have been attempted beforehand by someone else, and left things looking worse. Simple reason being, it's an extremely delicate job with very little tolerance to remove the damaged/oxidised surface and bring the sides up like new. Once this has been attempted and failed, the tolerance we needed to do the job properly has been removed, we have nothing left to work with, meaning the chance of going through the paint is far too high for us to rectify the work.
  10. Sadly an inaccurate response we hear from many manufactures, or dealers that simply don't actually know the why's and what's, and just guess. Bailey haven't had a plastic front and rear panel since around 10 years ago with the older Senator, Pageant and Ranger. It's all GRP apart from the lower 'bumper' panels, which are ABS. Maybe if the manufactures are not sure what to use, or why things change colour, or fade, or don't fade, or even how to stop all this from happening, they should call someone who can school them, because that's what they do everyday instead of giving owners confusing, conflicting and often frankly daft aftercare advice.
  11. Just Caravans and Motorhomes as a business thankfully. I'd never step into the car detailing business simply because it's a saturated industry and hard to make a good living from. Many people just cannot see or justify the added value in the sort of things we do, making vehicle detailing and paint correction a very tough business to be in, unless you have huge flashy premises. My passion is mainly the Restoration work we carry out, which accounts for around 85% of what we do now. The transformation from dull, discoloured and tired looking Caravans and Motorhomes, to a showroom fresh finish is very rewarding, even still now, 10 years later. Paul
  12. SRP is perfectly sufficient for the protection on Fibreglass, plastic and aluminium. We've been using it for years as a simple protection and seen it last as long as 12 months, and regardless on what it states on the Autoglym website, it works perfectly fine. Please bare in mind that much of the advice on Autoglym's website is for a painted and lacquered surface, not a gelcoat, like the Bailey GRP. Yes SRP has a very mild abrasive, but it's by no means harsh enough to cause any adverse effects on the tough GRP surfaces. I have the exact same material on my Motorhome, and use SRP a couple of times a year, and my Motorhome still looks like brand new at nearly 5 years old. Extra gloss is not a product we'd ever use on these surfaces simply because it's no more benefit than simply using SRP, which is a lot easier to work with. The same goes for HD wax. This is designed for metallic finishes, and again, of no extra benefit to GRP. We've tried and tested all these products for nearly a decade now, and nothing compares to the longevity, ease of application and performance of SRP on Caravans and Motorhomes. (the other products mentioned, work great on your cars) As for swirls, and SRP masking these, you're predominately working with surfaces that are light in colour, and swirls are not something that is a huge issue in this industry, against say a Black, or very dark painted finishes. The main places most Caravan owners will see swirls are darker windows, and SRP is not a product to be used on acrylic or perspex, because it contains petroleum, an ingredient that many window manufactures seem to blame for micro-fracturing, which seems to have little or zero evidence of this claim, but they still use it. Autoglym offer enough products for the average Caravan owner to be able to keep their purchase in brand new condition for years, and SRP one of this range. Lastly. Bailey's advice about not using any products that contain Carnauba, yet they advise the use of 'washing detergents' as a washing aid, go directly against our years of knowledge, but it's their advice, and I advise you follow it, just skip/ignore the part about 'washing detergents' There are far better/safer products available.
  13. Fair comment, specially when we are potentially half the price you've been quoted. That goes for anyone being quoted those types of prices. No one should be paying over £300 max at a dealership. It's a little more technical than a glorified wax, but again, provided you keep up the waxing a few times a year, you shouldn't see any of the common fading issues, and future cleans should be far easier. We tend to work for those that want the peace of mind that their Caravan is protected properly, so they can just get on and enjoy it. Plus they want a company they can trust, or watch the work being carried out.
  14. You've kind of answered your own question. If you are happy to wax your Caravan a couple of times a year, then there's really no benefit of a paint sealer in this circumstance. You will have to keep this up, miss a year and you will notice the difference pretty quickly. We often ask if this is the route an owner will be taking, and advise they don't really need to pay for a paint sealer to be applied by us. It might not be the best way to run a business, but I find if you are open and honest with a person, this often leads to them recommending you to others anyway. As for the interior protection, this isn't something we offer, and from around 2015, a lot of Caravan furnishings already have fabric protection from new, so worth looking through your Caravan information to see if this is already applied. Lastly, just bare in mind a Caravan is not a Car and the products needed are not always the same when you are working with gelcoats, fibreglasses, aluminium and plastics. Anyone advising the use of 'washing detergents' is just being lazy with their poor aftercare advice. As always, thank you for the above recommendations, they don't ever go unnoticed by myself.
  15. I've been a Trade member, and supporter of CaravanTalk for many years now. I'm a daily visitor, but a rare poster these days, simply because i'm a Trade member, and tend to only comment if i'm mentioned or I can directly help someone with our knowledge or skills. I've just noticed yet another recommendation for our work from yesterday, and felt it was time to say a personal thanks. To quickly explain, we are going into our 12th year with my business, and much of this longevity is due to the constant support from forum members on Caravantalk, along with several other Motorhome forums. We haven't advertised my business for the last 10 years, and a large percentage of our yearly work comes directly from you guys and your recommendations. I know there are many hard core fans that have used us on several occasions on here, and you are often telling others about our work, but there are also others that haven't used us, and yet still recommend us just because of what you read. We still only work for the public. Nothing big has changed with our attitude or ethos from the beginning. I still love my job, and I still enjoy meeting Caravan and Motorhome owners. Our passion for this industry and my own personal hobby is why we still wake up every morning and look forward to what the day brings. Much of what we are about is down to places like this from real people, and real experiences. In an industry that can be a minefield of up's and downs, I count myself lucky that such a niche slice of this amazing pastime has given me a long term business that enables me to work, and enjoy my own Motorhome. So from myself, and my colleague Lee, we both thank you all for the constant support. Paul
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