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    The M6!

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  4. Posted November 18, 2020 we are thinking about getting a 120w Solar panel kit from Sunstore.co.uk for a dual battery feed, or would a 150w be a better option. Mick I think the difference in price is a factor to consider, we run our panel connected to both main batteries (cab & leisure) through the control unit plus a 100amphr battery on a 120 Solar Panel. I have installed several double USB sockets and a cigar socket for TV linked directly to third battery used when not connected to mains and never had an issue. Brian Mick You don't mention whether it is your intention to go off piste so to speak or whether you intention is to just maintain battery condition? I have a 100 Watt solar panel on my Bailey but in their wisdom they decided only to connect it to the leisure battery despite installing a controller capable of charging both hab and cab batteries. I got round this by fitting a device called a Battery Master which pushes any excess charge in the leisure battery through to the cab battery. On several years of experience of this sort of set up I am happy that it works well. If you are more concerned about camping with no EHU I would have thought the larger the panel the better to get the battery charge replenished. David We intend to use mainly non electric CLs but on some occasions use hook ups, thinking of getting one to charge Leisure & car battery as we are on a storage site, van has got a tracker fitted as well, as first timers thought this would be our option to get a Solar panel fitted. Mick You will need to make sure the solar panel controller has the ability to charge both batteries, it should do but worth a check. The controller can be set to the percentage of charge to each battery. Usual set up seems to be 90% to the leisure battery and 10% to cab battery but this can be adjusted if the 10% is not sufficient to keep the cab battery up to the required level. David
  5. Posted March 24, 2021 Hi all, a good friend of mine has Swift Escape M/home which has GRP rear and sides. When cleaning it today he noticed small blister like bumps on both the rear panel and on one side (rear top area). Has anyone else come across this problem and any idea what causes it. He is going to contact the dealer about it and have it resolved but he's obviously worried that it might occur somewhere else. Cheers and thanks Keith Hi Keith Welcome to the forum. You can get crazing in fibreglass panels where the gel coat starts to break up. I had that on a Swift caravan once but it was repaired under warranty and remained good through my ownership. Bubbles suggest air in the gel coat? Odd that he has it in two places? If it's still in warranty I expect Swift will authorise the dealer to have a gel coat repair. I think it's fairly unusual but probably a very close look over the rest of the van to make sure there are no hidden problems would be a good idea before taking it to the dealer. Davd
  6. Posted March 29, 2021 We are considering the purchase of an Adria Compact DL. To date we have only looked at online brochures and YouTube vid's. Its difficult to know if the garage will fit two bikes, one being a large ebike, a dutch style step through bike. Does anyone have this model of motor home and use the garage to transport bikes. Some advice on how they fit and are secured would be great (photo's) if possible. The dealer say's they will fit, easy for him to say!! Thanks in advance. Northman I am afraid that I cannot help with your specific model. I do know however that the garage on our MH will only take a couple of folding bikes (part folded to lower the handlebars when turned through 90deg). I cannot fit our electric mountain bikes in, owing to the height of both handlebars and saddle even when in their lowest position. One restriction for us is the size of the access hatch. In your position, while not ideal, you'll probably have to employ a rear wall mounted bike rack for full size Dutch-style bikes. Hopefully someone with the same model as you will be able to add more information. Gordon
  7. Posted March 26, 2021 Has anyone fitted a new leisure battery to their motorhome. I’ve just taken off my old battery which is a Deta DG80 it states 80ah (20h) 90ah (100h) do I have to fit the same spec battery or can I safely fit a better battery! Thanks Alan Hi Alan, fitting a larger capacity Ah battery should have no adverse effects. I have 2 leisure batteries all connected in line with the cab battery charged by engine, hook up & solar panel rated at 100ah which provides for longer usage time. Brian Similarly I also have a bank of three leisure batteries that are charged from the engine alternator with priority being given to the chassis battery. You can install a higher capacity battery to your motorhome will no ill effects however do check the new battery will physically fit, and if the connection leads are restrictive, it may be necessary to ensure the positive and negative battery terminals are in the correct orientation. They can vary as shown below. Gordon
  8. Posted March 22 2021 Looking to purchase a drive away awning. Searching the web it seems lots of folk experience a load of condensation in their awnings. We are changing from a caravan and Isabella awning to a motor home and never experienced condensation problems with the Isabella from north Scotland to south of France. Would really appreciate your feedback and suggestions of awnings that don't suffer from excessive condensations. Please don't tell me all awnings suffer from condensation, that is not useful. I have watched awning distributers/sellers videos where it looks like its raining inside the awning and they state this is not the fault of the awning. Appreciate your feedback on real life experience's on drive away awning's that don't suffer from this problem. Thanks in advance. Northman I wouldn't do that Northman but I would say that all awnings can suffer from condensation if warm damp air is allowed in a cool awning - for example if cooking in a caravan or motorhome, with a window or door venting into the awning. The trick is to get the right balance between ventilation and heating. Having used a drive away awning in the past, I was not impressed and found them to be something of a faff unless I planned to stay on site for a few days without moving the camper. In the end I opted to occasionally use a small free standing frame tent if weather protection or an outside sunshade was needed. As a rule, I tend not to stay in one place for very long, as in my opinion the point of having a motor is that a campervan can easily move from one place to another, so I can sleep wherever the journey takes me. Campervan Thanks for the replies, appreciated but surprised no feedback on loads of condensation problems. Perhaps awnings are not a "thing" with most motor home owners. I did not think about settling up a small tent. We already have a small gazebo we could use for longer stays to hide away the furniture, bikes etc. I agree all awnings (as do buildings) can suffer from condensation when conditions merge. Its just that we have never experience any excessive problems in all our years of caravanning with a couple of different brands. With regards the drive away awning option, I was concerned it would be a just a hassle so will not bother and just use a small gazebo when staying on a pitch longer term. Thanks again. Northman We have a simple sunshade permanently fitted to our MH like this . . . I confess however that it is hardly ever deployed. Similarly when we owned caravans we only ever used an awning for longer stays, or if we were hosting a rally in which case we have been know to add the occasional extension . . . The large red and beige awning above, did display problems of condensation if left fully zipped up but if the zips near the roof were opened to allow air to circulate, normally there was no problem. I always thought of Drive-Away awnings as being just too much faff, but having used frame tents for many years, positioning a MH immediately adjacent to one of these would appear to be an agreeable compromise. Gordon Thanks. Northman A bit off topic , be careful when you buy an awning if its a pump up as they usually come in one bag and are very heavy ( ie. instead of like pole type awnings which are in 2 bags ), we found ours too heavy to handle also , I have seen too many with the Pump up tubes Punctured so you can't put them up, just an observation. Tony Thanks for the observation. I have a couple of air-framed tents, and it is true that they are noticeably heavier to transport because you cannot split the load and so everything is in one bag. The big advantage I find with the tents is the shape of the package when folded is not defined by the length of the longest pole - because there aren't any. Gordon
  9. Posted March 28 2021 Firstly - Hello. I'm new to the Forum. We have been motohomers for over 3 years, and before that caravanners for over 30 years. Now, my question is - we ordered a new motorhome in Sep 2020 and it was delivered to the dealer in Feb 2021. They submitted registration details to DVLA in the week ending 19th Feb. We have heard nothing from DVLA . We know the reg. no. (pre-allocated) but a search of the vehicle tax status comes back "Vehicle details not found" which presumably means DVLA haven't registered it yet. Is anyone else in the same boat? Cheers Cooky Not exactly in the same boat as you but I have experienced frustration with the inefficiencies at the DVLA, to the point of driving to their office and plonking letters of complaint in their hand, and requiring a signature and a rubber stamp as proof of receipt. Now that clearly is not an option just at the moment but letters sent by recorded delivery are traceable, so that may be your best option just now. Emails, I found, are a waste of time as, despite what is claimed, replies are just as slow as with 'snail mail'. You will gather that I am less than impressed with their service overall, and have even taken them to court in the past in an effort to get them to act responsibly. Gordon You could blame it all on Covid and staff reductions because of it but I doubt you would notice much difference to past performance. You have to put Sir or Lord rather than Mr if you want it done quickly Brian “You could blame it all on Covid” Not five years ago you couldn't but as you allude to - it's normal service I'm afraid. Gordon As I understand it it is the dealer that is responsible for registering the motorhome. They have a list of available reg numbers and once selected they complete to paperwork online, the same as when you buy a car. As a new vehicle it will be taxed for 12 months automatically. Essentially all you are waiting for is the V5 . I assume as a consequence of COVID things are taking a bit longer than normal. Personally I have had nothing but excellent service from the DVLA. Have you checked with the dealer that everything went through OK? David Thanks David Apparently, cars are registered online but motorhomes have to be done by maual paperwork. I checked this with the local Ford dealer (cars are going through online ok) and with the morohome dealer; he has contacted other dealers who are experiencing similar delays. I'll get back to him to see if he has any way of chasing up or checking that the original paperwork got to DVLA, Cheers Cooky We are in exactly the same position. The MH, Bailey Adamo 75-4i arrived at the dealer in Feb 21. We went to see and drive it in mid March. Since then it’s been in their yard and no info whatsoever from the DVLA. Doesn’t help that they whet on strike last week! Dealer doesn’t seem to be chasing it either. Tegs Hi Tegs, welcome to the forum. I wouldn't worry too much about the strike, you wont even notice. Dealer obviously knows what to expect which is why they are not chasing. Brian Tegs, Sorry to hear of the problem for you, Tegs. We've been back to our dealer on Monday and he's tearing his hair out. He has no way of chasing DVLA because they don't answer the phone. The only bit of comfort we came away with was that one of his registrations "went live" last Friday, and it had been submitted about trhe same time as ours - i.e. 8 weeks ago. He uses the term "going live" to mean that you get a positive search of the DVLA website to show whether a vehicle is taxed. A search for mine doesn't even find it. Where did you buy your new Adamo? We bought our Adamo 69-4 from Chipping Sodbury Caravans - we've been dealing with them since 1993. Cooky Yes we have bought from the same dealer. The latest I have as of yesterday the application for registration was made on 5th March. In the Budget the government increased the road tax, which resulted in DVLA rejecting the application ! It was resubmitted on 26th March. Since then of course they had a week long strike. So I’m ever hopeful we may hear some positive news next week. I have also emailed the CEO of the DVLA to politely ask when we can expect to gain registration. I spoke to Mel at the dealer who gave this info. At least helps to explain why it’s taking so long. I assume the same has happened to you Tegs Thanks Tegs Ours was submitted on 19th February, and nothing back from the DVLA at all. I'm now wondering if it ever got there; if yours was submitted on 5th March, and rejected, it suggests they were at least opening their mail. what email address di you use for the DVLA CEO? The only one I could find on the internet is julie.lennard@dvla.gov.uk But it may be out of date. Cheers That’s the email address I used, it didn’t get rejected so it seems to be a good one. Maybe worth another chat with Jamie - and get him to listen and not talk!! See if he can shed any further info ref the taxation issue. I suspect the same has occurred for you. Not sure how we can personnel message on this system so we can contact each other and chat via phone/ email if you are ok with that. cheers Tegs Hi Tegs, if you look at the top of the page you will see an image of an envelope, that's for private messages. You can use your pointer towards another persons avatar and ''send a message'' will appear. Brian At long last I have a positive result. The vehicle was finally registered on 23rd April 2021. Many thanks to Tegs for information he gave me about the complaint he had submitted. I subsequentially found out that my registration had been rejected for the same reason (road tax increased in the budget). So, it looks as though motohome registration should now take place within 4/5 weeks ... but, DVLA go on strike again on 4th May. Cooky
  10. Lifted from another British Motorhome Forum just now that Cars being towed via an A Frame behind a motorhome are illegal in France. There was a recent article in a French Motorhome magazine Le Monde du Camping Car giving chapter and verse. You can do a Google translate if you don't understand French and the only bit I was still unsure of was the last statement which I interpreted as that if the trailer had a braking system that was similar to the vehicle towing it, it was OK ? or was that my misinterpretation. The link to the article is http://www.lemondeducampingcar.fr/actualite/infos/la-voiture-tractee-par-le-camping-car-il-faut-y-renoncer.html I have been waiting for some time to make my mind up about whether to go for towing a car on not. Still unsure as the statement from the French parliament was in May 2014 and the article in the magazine is the current date ? Alan Hi Alan Believe motorhomes towing an "A" frame are also being stopped in Spain. On the spot fines issued and only allowed to proceed if car is uncoupled and driven independently - difficult if only one person can drive! Do you know if there is a definitive answer to this for UK as I've heard \ seen conflicting statements on their legality? GN Hi GN 'A' Frames have been ruled out for some time now in Spain and in fact a friend of ours who had an RV and towed a small car behind it stopped going to Spain last year because of it. Germany has had some issues with it too with people being stopped and fined on what seems quite spurious offences related to towing. As far as A Frames in the UK the DVLA and DoT have stated recently that they are acceptable in the UK but may not be acceptable in other European countries. Alan Thanks Alan Suppose the "big" question now is - if it's legal in home member country why is it not accepted in others under EU rules? GN Hi GN The legality of A Frames does not come under any European Union legislation but comes under the Vienna Convention of Road Traffic 1968 and this serves as the reference document regarding A Frames. This Document does not have anything written about A Frames but does with regard to other towing matters so each party to the convention interprets it in their own way and can make their own rules / regulations. A question to the European Commission was asked by Julie Girling MEP for South West England in September 2011 and the above is a my précis of the reply she received. Alan Ta Alan GN Agreement is for C&U not road traffic rules. A country still has the right to refuse entry at port then. The issue over the type approval after the modifications as new vehicle is made that needs a re reg and new log book issued. Who owns the type approval for the new vehicles? Dave Below is the full extract of Julie Girling's (MEP) enquiry to the European Commission. European Commission Clarification on A-Frames Created: 06 September 2011 Further to a number of constituent enquiries, Julie recently asked the European Commission to clarify the legality of A-Frame tow bars for towing small cars behind motor-homes with regard to Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Italy and Croatia? Read the full question and the response from the Commission here. Question for written answer E-007695/2011 to the Commission Rule 117. Julie Girling (ECR) Subject: A-Frame compatibility Can the Commission please clarify the legality of A-Frame tow bars for towing small cars behind motor-homes with regard to Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Italy and Croatia? Could the Commission also please clarify if any restrictions in said countries have a consequence as regards the right of temporary passing through or short stay for cars with A-Frames? E-007695/2011 Answer given by Mr Tajani on behalf of the Commission A combination of vehicles made up of a towing vehicle and a towed vehicle, both of which are in category M1 (specifically a motor-home and a car), falls outside the scope of EU law. The Vienna Convention on Road Traffic of 8 November 1968 serves as the reference document in this matter. Among other things, Annex 5 of the above-mentioned Convention sets out the conditions to be met by all vehicles in international traffic but only covers motor vehicles towing a ‘trailer designed to be coupled to a motor vehicle’. Apart from emergency breakdown towing, none of the Convention provisions concern towing of a car using an ‘A-frame’ tow bar . Each contracting party may therefore apply its own national legislation in the matter. The Commission does not have any information on the national rules which apply in the Member States and candidate countries referred to by the Honourable Member. With regard to transit via countries in which such vehicle combinations are banned, the absence of relevant provisions in the Vienna Convention means that the contracting parties involved may restrict or ban such traffic. So it seems to me that each country can apply its own rules / legislation regarding to the use of A Frames in their own country and apply it to both their own 'countrymen' and visitors. Alan Alan Interesting post. I don't suppose there were many motorhomes towing cars in 1968 which is the likely reason they were not included the Vienna Convention? David Surely they are getting confused with breakdown towing dollies once they start mentioning "breakdown" . A A frame towing is a different type of towing . This seems to be confused by the two different methods? A towing "breakdown type" dolly will never be allowed as it does not comply to braking laws with unbraked wheels on the road . I have never seen any information on these brake units that are fitted to A frame cars having EU type approval for the units to make them legal to fit . If anyone knows different can they give a link . The electric brake controller fitted to UK vehicles for the electric brakes on US trailers to tow them have to be EU type approved . As its a requirement for equipment to be type approved for towing i would of thought you possibly risk your MHs insurance in the event of a accident . IMO use a trailer Dave __________________________________________ Links added by Admin for information This is a promotional video but we note that the car should also be secured to the trailer before moving off.
  11. Posted May 29, 2018 I know this can be a subject of interest to motorhomers. The Department of Transport have updated their views on using such devices. Details can be found here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-frames-and-dollies/a-frames-and-dollies It doesn't really change anything as far as the UK is concerned but at least they seem to be recognised by D of T. If using one abroad you need to do your homework as there seems very few countries with the enlightened view of the UK! David Posted June 7, 2018 Thank you David, that is a useful link that says pretty much confirms my understanding, so I'll continue to use a trailer with the car making up the "load" on that trailer, as that way the car needs no modifications. Gordon. Posted June 7, 2018 Having seen the regard to rules & regulations in the EU I'm not sure what to make of anything. Travelled the length of France and Spain and completely lost count of the number of non resident vehicles without either Headlight Beam Deflectors or Warning Boards on overhanging loads, makes me wonder why i even bothered. I even put beam deflectors on the scooter. While waiting to board the ferry in Newhaven not a single UK vehicle had any visible means of complying with the requirements. Posted June 8, 2018 I'm with you all the way Brian. If there are rules then I will comply with them whether that's not parking on yellow lines or fitting warning boards. Regarding the headlamp deflectors; on our towcars; we used to stick masks to the clip on stone guards that fitted over the headlamps, thus they were easily applied and removed, however the current car has a toggle lever under the bonnet on each headlamp assembly that switches from left to right dip, so there is no visible sign externally of headlamp alignment until the lights are turned on, even our old 1973 Renault 6TL had a small external lever to flick between left or right dip beam so it really isn't rocket science. We can all make mistakes but I have absolutely no sympathy for those who knowingly flout the rules. Gordon. Posted June 8, 2018 I could be wrong Gordon but the main offenders seem to be the Brits!!! However, warning boards (or the lack of) does seem pretty universal, but like you I will comply simply because 'sods law' follows me wherever I go. Brian Posted June 13, 2018 Whilst I do use the correct signal board on the back of the motorhome if I have the bikes I don't use beam deflectors. There is no requirement by law to do so only that you must not dazzle oncoming traffic. I don't drive at night but recognise that there will be times when lights are require in daylight hours. I set my lights to the lowest setting to the road.I have travelled through quite a few two way tunnels in Austria without my lights apparently upsetting oncoming traffic. David Posted June 18, 2018 I completely understand your point of view David but there is always the chance that whilst abroad the unexpected could happen that could require you to drive after dark. I would not do as you do but I guess I'm not a risk taker. Personally I fail to see why the lights of all vehicles could not be vertically dipped like many commercial vehicles are. The headlamps on our motorhome dip vertically and work perfectly well for driving on either side of the road, so for all practical purposes there is no benefit to be gained with a left or right dipping pattern. Having said that, as long as my headlamps do dip to one side or the other, as they do with our cars, unless there is a switched alternative, I will always fit headlamp masks even for a day trip, as much to be seen to be doing the right thing as for any practical purpose. I am sure that you've looked at the images of beam patterns on the CT website and I would advocate adhering to the advice there just in case you are stopped by the authorities. Gordon. Posted August 24, 2018 I have read that police don't take the fact you are only driving during daylight not to fit deflectors as it is a requirement that headlights are used under some driving conditions during daylight . I think we will see a increase of stopping and fining after we part company from the EU. Dave
  12. As a side note, we have more motorhome owners that use Caravan Talk than are active on Motorhome Talk, and of course some owners are members of both forums. Caravan Talk is also an established name, and will be found when searching the Internet for motorhome related topics. We will do our best to include MH owners as we are all seeking independent accommodation for our holidays, and even if that style of holiday may vary, much of the onboard equipment is common to tourers, campervans and motorhomes. Admin
  13. It simply means optimising the site to increase its prominence when search engines are looking for relevant content. We are very grateful to all who have taken every opportunity to support MT however there have been prolonged discussion in the back room of Caravan Talk and while not an easy decision to make this change, it has been on the cards for a while with the diminishing use of MT. You are right that there are a lot of members who join MT, post one question, get an answer and then without saying thanks and are never heard of again. We had hoped that with a more active forum such as CT, new members may be encouraged to engage more with those who try to help members. remember too that we also have a significant number of MH owners on CT. This is also the reason why we have not created a new 'Accessories and Equipment' section for motorhomes. If it were not for the commercial implications, we would like to rename CT now, so it is not a case of not wanting to but the impact of this has to be carefully evaluated before making any changes, and there is no point in alienating our existing membership with an inappropriate name, as we've seen how a wrong decision can cause unnecessary and totally avoidable problems.
  14. Tourershine Two Star Trade 51 posts LocationLeicestershire Motorhome:2015 Pilote Aclass Posted October 25, 2016 · IP (edited) Last year moved from an Elddis Crusader to a 2015 Pilote Galaxy A-class. Caravans and Motorhomes for those that don't know me, are my industry and I run a business working on the caravan and motorhome exteriors. So my knowledge of Motorhomes, and Caravans is pretty in-depth. Buying a Pilote was a personal choice, mainly down to the quality of the exterior finishes. The interiors of most European Motorhome's seemed to be pretty consistently high quality. Since purchasing the Motorhome, i've carried out most of the work myself, but again that's a personal choice because I like to tinker, and more than able to do most jobs. Plus when it's your own pride and joy, you do tend to go over the top when you modify or add things. The Fiat part of the Motorhome, has not been without it's teething problems, and it's actually going into Fiat tomorrow for 2 recalls. 1, something to do with a faulty ignition, which people may know about, and 2, a strange issue with the clock binnacle, called 'dash bleed' where the warning lights are effected when the cruise control is activated. Fiat are also programming a new master key because I lost mine the day before we went around Europe recently. That's an expensive lesson I will try not to repeat. £350 for the key and it programmed. I've since purchased a set of keyring Trackers for all my vehicle keys! Any other issues with the Motorhome?... Yes. A poorly designed double floor that I have no idea how it got passed by the Pilote technical/design department. Basically as with many Motorhomes these days, they have a double floor, which gives you extra storage space under the floor, plus gives a nice home for all the water tanks, and as it's heated, it stops any freezing issues in the winter. A great idea I thought, but in my model there's one of the daftest designs I've seen. They use internal hatches to access the underfloor compartments and these hatches are placed in several areas inside the motorhome. The hatches are sat on top of wooden frames that are screwed into the floor from the underside. Now, these frames are screwed into the floor with standard wood screws, but because the marine ply floor is not overly thick, the screws can only be screwed into the floor so far, to stop them coming through the floor and pointing out the other side. (can you see where this is going yet?) Anyway... Pilote in their wisdom have placed the hatches smack in the middle of the floors where you stand and walk, one being right in front of the kitchen unit, where you stand for the longest. Yep, the screws slowly pulled through the ply, and the hatches eventually collapsed!! Leaving a huge hole right in the middle of my Motorhome floor when I was on holiday. Thankfully I had tools with me, and managed to temporally fix the issue by moving the screws into new holes. This issue started as an annoying creak on the floor. I pointed this creak out to my dealer, who then said they'd fixed it by spraying silicon spray around the hatch, because in their opinion the creak was just because the wood was moving slightly, and this was normal. (Hence why I now do everything myself) I've since, modified this whole design, and thankfully it now works creak and bounce free. On the same subject, the tie down bars in the garage, which are meant to be used to strap tight anything from a box, to a motorbike if needed, were also screwed into the ply with wood screws, and the 1st time I used a small ratchet strap to secure my push bike, it just lifted the tie down bar out the floor! These have also now been modified to work properly. Stupid problems, with fairly simple fixes, that should of been thought about when designing these parts of the Motorhome, so I'm not sure what went wrong in the factory there. Anyway, other than these minor teething issues, which I do expect, the Motorhome has been pretty much the best decision my wife and I have ever spent our money on. We've now done 9000 miles, and most of them were around Europe, visiting France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Switzerland (now our destination of choice), Germany, and many parts of the UK. We love the Motorhome. It feels like home to us now, and it always puts a huge smile on our faces when we pick it up from the storage site. (apart from tonight because I know it's going to have the warranty work done, and it fills me with horror watching my motorhome vanish behind those big garage doors) This is my pride and joy sat on the sea front in Salema Portugal.. Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted October 26, 2016 · IP (edited) Thank you for your excellent post Paul. What you say about the quality of the little things goes a long way to reflect my own opinion of the motorhome / caravan industry generally, in that money is spent making the product look good, while greater priority should be given to the basic design features that make the product robust. Given that you have listed so many countries you have visited, I wonder if you had considered purchasing a LHD model, as I see that on your MH the "driver's" door is next to the front seat passenger and there is not one by the driver. Gordon. Tourershine Two Star Trade 51 posts LocationLeicestershire Motorhome:2015 Pilote Aclass Author Posted October 26, 2016 · IP To be honest, it was never a consideration Gordon. I'm not convinced the future residule value wouldn't be effected by owning a LHD motorhome. Specially when you consider what they cost to buy brand new anyway. You know how the dealers love to use any excuse to suck through their teeth like an old school plumber! On the flip side, should I eventually sell privately, I might limit my UK buying market. (not that I want to get rid in the near future anyway) but it's just the way my thought processes work. Also, not having a drivers door, means I have a huge shelf to lean on whilst driving, and my wife who sits in the passenger seat has to always get the coffee and sweets from the services. Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted October 27, 2016 · IP I like your thinking although I'm sure your good lady may hold an alternative opinion. The most important thing is that you have your motorhome of choice as ultimately that's who it is for, not anyone who may eventually buy it from you! Enjoy your travels... Gordon. Unread Content Mark site read Home Forums Manufacturers Other makes of motorhome Pilote.. 1 year later Pilote.. 1 year later Add Tag By Tourershine, October 25, 2016 in Other makes of motorhome Share Follow0 Reply to this topic Start new topic Moderation Actions Tourershine Two Star Trade 51 posts LocationLeicestershire Motorhome:2015 Pilote Aclass Posted October 25, 2016 · IP (edited) Last year moved from an Elddis Crusader to a 2015 Pilote Galaxy A-class. Caravans and Motorhomes for those that don't know me, are my industry and I run a business working on the caravan and motorhome exteriors. So my knowledge of Motorhomes, and Caravans is pretty in-depth. Buying a Pilote was a personal choice, mainly down to the quality of the exterior finishes. The interiors of most European Motorhome's seemed to be pretty consistently high quality. Since purchasing the Motorhome, i've carried out most of the work myself, but again that's a personal choice because I like to tinker, and more than able to do most jobs. Plus when it's your own pride and joy, you do tend to go over the top when you modify or add things. The Fiat part of the Motorhome, has not been without it's teething problems, and it's actually going into Fiat tomorrow for 2 recalls. 1, something to do with a faulty ignition, which people may know about, and 2, a strange issue with the clock binnacle, called 'dash bleed' where the warning lights are effected when the cruise control is activated. Fiat are also programming a new master key because I lost mine the day before we went around Europe recently. That's an expensive lesson I will try not to repeat. £350 for the key and it programmed. I've since purchased a set of keyring Trackers for all my vehicle keys! Any other issues with the Motorhome?... Yes. A poorly designed double floor that I have no idea how it got passed by the Pilote technical/design department. Basically as with many Motorhomes these days, they have a double floor, which gives you extra storage space under the floor, plus gives a nice home for all the water tanks, and as it's heated, it stops any freezing issues in the winter. A great idea I thought, but in my model there's one of the daftest designs I've seen. They use internal hatches to access the underfloor compartments and these hatches are placed in several areas inside the motorhome. The hatches are sat on top of wooden frames that are screwed into the floor from the underside. Now, these frames are screwed into the floor with standard wood screws, but because the marine ply floor is not overly thick, the screws can only be screwed into the floor so far, to stop them coming through the floor and pointing out the other side. (can you see where this is going yet?) Anyway... Pilote in their wisdom have placed the hatches smack in the middle of the floors where you stand and walk, one being right in front of the kitchen unit, where you stand for the longest. Yep, the screws slowly pulled through the ply, and the hatches eventually collapsed!! Leaving a huge hole right in the middle of my Motorhome floor when I was on holiday. Thankfully I had tools with me, and managed to temporally fix the issue by moving the screws into new holes. This issue started as an annoying creak on the floor. I pointed this creak out to my dealer, who then said they'd fixed it by spraying silicon spray around the hatch, because in their opinion the creak was just because the wood was moving slightly, and this was normal. (Hence why I now do everything myself) I've since, modified this whole design, and thankfully it now works creak and bounce free. On the same subject, the tie down bars in the garage, which are meant to be used to strap tight anything from a box, to a motorbike if needed, were also screwed into the ply with wood screws, and the 1st time I used a small ratchet strap to secure my push bike, it just lifted the tie down bar out the floor! These have also now been modified to work properly. Stupid problems, with fairly simple fixes, that should of been thought about when designing these parts of the Motorhome, so I'm not sure what went wrong in the factory there. Anyway, other than these minor teething issues, which I do expect, the Motorhome has been pretty much the best decision my wife and I have ever spent our money on. We've now done 9000 miles, and most of them were around Europe, visiting France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Switzerland (now our destination of choice), Germany, and many parts of the UK. We love the Motorhome. It feels like home to us now, and it always puts a huge smile on our faces when we pick it up from the storage site. (apart from tonight because I know it's going to have the warranty work done, and it fills me with horror watching my motorhome vanish behind those big garage doors) This is my pride and joy sat on the sea front in Salema Portugal.. Edited October 26, 2016 by Tourershine Quote Gordon Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted October 26, 2016 · IP (edited) Thank you for your excellent post Paul. What you say about the quality of the little things goes a long way to reflect my own opinion of the motorhome / caravan industry generally, in that money is spent making the product look good, while greater priority should be given to the basic design features that make the product robust. Given that you have listed so many countries you have visited, I wonder if you had considered purchasing a LHD model, as I see that on your MH the "driver's" door is next to the front seat passenger and there is not one by the driver. Gordon. Edited October 26, 2016 by Gordon Quote Tourershine Two Star Trade 51 posts LocationLeicestershire Motorhome:2015 Pilote Aclass Author Posted October 26, 2016 · IP To be honest, it was never a consideration Gordon. I'm not convinced the future residule value wouldn't be effected by owning a LHD motorhome. Specially when you consider what they cost to buy brand new anyway. You know how the dealers love to use any excuse to suck through their teeth like an old school plumber! On the flip side, should I eventually sell privately, I might limit my UK buying market. (not that I want to get rid in the near future anyway) but it's just the way my thought processes work. Also, not having a drivers door, means I have a huge shelf to lean on whilst driving, and my wife who sits in the passenger seat has to always get the coffee and sweets from the services.. Quote Gordon Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted October 27, 2016 · IP On 26/10/2016 at 19:02, Tourershine said: Also, not having a drivers door, means I have a huge shelf to lean on whilst driving, and my wife who sits in the passenger seat has to always get the coffee and sweets from the services.. I like your thinking although I'm sure your good lady may hold an alternative opinion. The most important thing is that you have your motorhome of choice as ultimately that's who it is for, not anyone who may eventually buy it from you! Enjoy your travels... Gordon. CommanderDave Two Star Approved Member 78 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:2017 Dethleff Sunlight t69l 150 Auto Posted October 31, 2016 · IP (edited) I had a toss up between a new Pilote or Sunlight at the NEC on a new motorhome order . The Pilote was very well finished with all glossy two tone front cupboards and lots of hidden Led lighting . The Sunlight is a very basic Dethleff built just to do a job with no frills both on Fiat cab chassis's but also made it lighter . I looked at things like locks and hinges and the German had a slightly better feel and look in quality . The final swing to the German Sunlight over the French was while in the Pilote a group of three wives were looking and while sharing the space and dancing between areas all of us one was saying that she had last year's model and was pointing out the lockers and cupboards but was also remarking that this and that had broken and it had been in for repairs . It seemed they used the motorhome a lot touring here and Europe but it was a bit of a eye opener so I ordered a new Sunlight for next October . Dave Steve Drew One Star Approved Member 10 posts LocationSouthampton Motorhome:Dethleffs Globus I1 Posted November 2, 2016 · IP Thanks for the review we are thinking of a Pilote for our next change, we thought that they might have a better grasp of materials use then Benimar who put screws straight into the sides of the plywood wardrobe floor and then mounted the spare wheel on it, of course the plywood d-laminated where the screws went in and the floor collapsed, I have repaired it by putting some support blocks in to hold the floor up, but they should have considered this while designing and building. Maybe we will have to take a long look again. Tourershine Two Star Trade 51 posts LocationLeicestershire Motorhome:2015 Pilote Aclass Author Posted December 12, 2016 · IP We have a lot of experience of all Motorhomes, old and new because it's my business, and in my opinion they all have their own small issues. If you are quite handy, none of the things that have gone wrong with mine were hard to fix. I still stand by my choice of manufacture, and I spent years asking my customers opinions on their own motorhomes before I settled with Pilote. Should we change our current one anytime soon, it would take something very special to move me away from Pilote as a manufacture. Mickp New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationCounty Durham Motorhome:Autosleeper Broadway FB Posted August 9, 2017 · IP Interesting post about the sub floor, I would suggest if possible making sure the screws were brass if possible,I have seen how New screws just disintegrate when a little wet. When we just got our new bus it was weighed up between the pilote and the autosleeper, went for the autosleeper in the end. Scania Three Star Approved Member 146 posts LocationSweden Motorhome:Adria Posted August 10, 2017 · IP I fully agree, it is an excellent post. Gordon, I also think that the comment you made regarding basic design features is very valid also. I'll explain my take on that. As our Knaus had reached the ripe old age of 14, we decided to replace it. Looking round some of the bigger dealers here, we could not find a single motorhome that fitted our basic criteria. It had to be 1) under 6 metres long. 2) have a fixed bed, and 3) have a garage. If the Knaus had been lengthened, all of these design features could have been fulfilled. Of all of the ones we looked at, there were none that fitted exactly. Each and every one was over the 6 metre mark. It does therefore seem to me that manufacturers are giving more priority to looks than practicality. I wonder if this is because of what some people term the "Land Rover Syndrome."??? Eventually, we did find one that almost fitted our needs. So after a lot of adventures, the Knaus will soon be with new owners, whilst we have new ones to look forward to with one from the top selling manufacturer here, Adria. Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted August 10, 2017 · IP On 10/08/2017 at 17:54, Scania said: Eventually, we did find one that almost fitted our needs. So after a lot of adventures, the Knaus will soon be with new owners, whilst we have new ones to look forward to with one from the top selling manufacturer here, Adria. I think one can go a lot worse that choose an Adria and their approach appeared to be correct when I spoke to Slavica Sterk last year at the NEC. I hope you enjoy your new acquisition. Gordon Scania Three Star Approved Member 146 posts LocationSweden Motorhome:Adria Posted August 11, 2017 · IP Thanks for that Gordon. I wouldnt mind talking to someone from Adria either. I've discovered a couple of misses on their part with the design. Even so, they do seem to have put a lot of thought into things. Tourershine Two Star Trade 51 posts LocationLeicestershire Motorhome:2015 Pilote Aclass Author Posted August 19, 2017 · IP (edited) On 10/08/2017 at 17:54, Scania said: Eventually, we did find one that almost fitted our needs. So after a lot of adventures, the Knaus will soon be with new owners, whilst We have new ones to look forward to with one from the top selling manufacturer here, Adria. We worked on a 2017 Adria Sonic a couple of weeks ago. This was the full Silver A-class, and it's not often we get to work on an Adria motorhome, simply because they are just not that common in my line of work, but I was very impressed with the quality of finish both inside and out. If I ever thought about changing my much loved Pilote, i'd certainly look at Adria as a first option. Just adding to my original post '1 year later' it's now '2 years later....' How time fly's when you have a Motorhome! Anyway, my trusty Pilote has now clicked over to 13000 miles, and she's driven my family this year to ile de re in France for easter, then back over for our summer trip to again, France, Brienz in Switzerland, back over to Lauterbrunnen in Switzerland, and down to lake Como in Italy. No further issues this year. A couple of the obligatory modifications for those of us that love to tinker, including a custom built bike storage set up in my garage, that securely holds 5 bikes, and still leaves room for the rest of our kit. I gave her a full service this year, which I will always do myself, so I know exactly what's actually being done, and the quality of the parts I use, rather than just handing it to a garage or dealer to do. I do have a slight issue with my diamond cut wheels, where they lacquer is chipping very slightly (a common problem on most diamond cut wheels) it's only a couple of tiny areas, and only noticeable to my fussy eye. After lengthy emails back and forth of Fiat UK, they agreed to fully refurbish the wheels under warranty, but they wanted my Motorhome delivering to Birmingham and leaving with them for 2 weeks. So I decided to just get them done myself by my bodyshop, rather than all that hassle. Plus I know my shop will do them to my fussy standards. Other than that, the Pilote is running like a dream, and she's needed no extra money spending on her (other than the number plate, but that was more a luxury purchase) Here she is another year later, and still looking just as good as new, sat under Mount Jungfrau in Switzerland at Camping Jungfrau, one of the best locations in Europe in my opinion. Before anyone comments on how close the pitches are to each other, that's my in-laws Burstner next to me, and we positioned them like that on purpose. Valkrider Two Star Approved Member 59 posts Location: Spain Motorhome:Adria Sonic Plus I700SC Posted August 19, 2017 · IP That's good to hear as I have just ordered an Adria Sonic and it will be delivered in a couple of weeks time (it is in stock but the Spanish workers are on holiday for the whole of August so no one to PDI it). Scania Three Star Approved Member 146 posts LocationSweden Motorhome:Adria Posted August 21, 2017 · IP On 19/08/2017 at 09:13, Valkrider said: That's good to hear as I have just ordered an Adria Sonic and it will be delivered in a couple of weeks time (it is in stock but the Spanish workers are on holiday for the whole of August so no one to PDI it). There is one bad point about Adrias. The instruction book is not all that good. I'm being diplomatic saying that. The first trip in it is now completed, so if anyone is interested, I'll take the lead from this thread and start new one. Valkrider Two Star Approved Member 59 posts Location: Spain Motorhome:Adria Sonic Plus I700SC Posted August 21, 2017 · IP Yes please. I don't get mine for a couple of weeks. We did have an Adria caravan and that manual was pretty good. Ross CB New to the board Registered Member 0 posts Posted May 23, 2019 · IP Hi Paul - yours was the first post that came up when I Googled "motorhome hatch collapse" and coincidentally we also have a Pilote, an Explorateur 731. I'd echo your thoughts - an excellent motorhome but with some oddly shoddy design flaws. The hatch in the bedroom, between toilet and shower has all but collapsed as the screws slowly rip out. The fresh water tank, and pump, are under here and space is really tight so I can't just knock up some support struts to reinforce the inadequate wood glue and 4 x self tappers. Could you possibly elaborate how you fixed yours? Cheers Ross Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted August 7, 2019 · IP Hi Ross, I'm a little late to the table with this thread and I'm not familiar with the hatch you describe but would something like the bracket below be useful in supporting the hatch? This should work providing the corners of the hatch are not too rounded, and there is sufficient strength in the surrounding framework to fix to. I used four of these brackets to add additional support to the spare wheel recess lid in several of our Avondale caravans. The image below shows the stowage area without the additional brackets, consequently the lid weight is being supported only by the soft plastic of the spare wheel recess. The brackets when fitted were screwed horizontally into the floor timber surrounding the hatch, with the bottom of the bracket aligned with the underside of the hatch lid.
  15. smino0_1 One Star Approved Member 20 posts Location. Llantrisant, South Wales Motorhome:. Swift Kontiki 669 HL Posted January 15, 2019 · IP (edited) So after having a full service done last week(16,000 miles) they found that the Kontiki 669 3.0l auto(manual with automatic shift) had a drive shaft leak on the off side. So i ordered the part from fiat (2 days order) and had it fitted via a fiat specialist today. I turns out this is a common fault and fiat have modified the seals accordingly. It took 2 hours incl. a full gearbox oil change. very specific oil for this vehicle, Tutella gl4.. Took 2.9 litres of oil and the measured amount coming out was just 2 litres. So quite a significant thing to consider looking at. In the off side is just a seal but to change the n/s it involves a flange with a built in seal. Cost was seal £12 and labour £120(2 hours). Biggest part in terms of time was to remove the undertray, and the turbo intake pipe, to enable you to get to the seal its self. bikerbri Three Star Moderator 423 posts LocationShropshire Motorhome:Lunar Roadstar 620 Posted January 15, 2019 · IP It always pays to have a good look over (and under) your vehicle especially for signs of leaks, sooner or later your gearbox would have been at risk. Glad you managed to get it sorted, enjoy.
  16. tonymilford One Star Approved Member 40 posts Locationnear Leeds Motorhome:Autotrail Tracker FB 2012 Posted July 10, 2016 · IP (edited) We went over to Lowdhams at Huddersfield yesterday and had a good look round. We both decided that the Bessacarr E495, a six berth with rear lounge may be an option if we take the plunge and trade in our large caravan for a motorhome. There were so many to choose from an there were quite a few that seemed at first to tick all the boxes but one thing or another let them down, particularly the lack of comfortable lounging space. Many offered an excellent dining area, but when it comes to UK spring and autumn you need somewhere to sit in comfort out of the cold and wet. Some had swivel captains chairs but most of these were located in such a confined space that either one or both could not actually swivel a full 180 degrees so that you can put your feet up on the sofas nearby. The vehicles with single beds seem to be made for little people. Yes the beds measured up to 184cm (6ft1inch) but when I lie down on my stomach, my feet would be crunched up and my head tilted on an angle to get in. I am only 6ft tall, but when laid down, I need at least 6ft 6inches to be comfortable. Then there is storage. In our fixed bed caravan, the bedding is always out so we don't have to store it. In addition, we have a large BBQ, a spare table, an awning and a couple of chairs together with the waste hog which we store under the bed. We store the water barrel, a broom, a bucket and toilet equipment together with a washing up bowl and some tea light holders in the front gas bottle store. Admittedly, we won't need the Waste Hog or water barrel but where do people store everything else? Do I really need a Motorhome with a garage instead of the Bessacarr or should I trim our travelling equipment? Do I need to carry a hose pipe to fill the on board water tanks or do I have to use a watering can? These questions get forgotten when one goes to the show room where you can quiz the expert salespeople! What other equipment are 'Must haves' in motorhomes? My wife is yet to be convinced that shelling out 38K (less what they give us for our caravan) is going to be beneficial. Anyone have any persuasive ideas? Tony carabiker One Star Approved Member 24 posts LocationSouth Manchester Motorhome:Swift bolaro 630 PR Posted July 11, 2016 · IP (edited) Hi Tony with a motor it has in built tanks ( keep the aqua roll & waste at the home garage in case you do a rally) keep your ramps / chocks if you do go on a rally along with the aqua / waste may need a pump to transfer from the aqua roll to the onboards tank , the mh may have a 2 pin elec connecter Get a flat hose in a casstte for filling the fresh water tank , lots of site now have motorhome service point for waste water fraining and top up the fresh water Get some front wheel mats for wet grass pitches ?should I trim our travelling equipment :-yes but store the items after a few trips you will know what you need add from the stored items at the end of the season . Flea bay !!! We changed last year ,Bolaro 630 pr end lounge / bed the mh makes life a lot easier, both driving and setting up on site ( 10 mins tops) I 1/2 fill the water tank at home, turn on the fridge a few days before we leave If you require food look for big super markets Go and look at Motorhome Parking A MH rear loung set up is very simular to a caravan you will settle in (within hours). PM me if you need more help / advice Dave Beardy New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationDerbyshire Motorhome:Bessacarr E495 Posted July 20, 2016 · IP Hi Tony We took the plunge and did exactly the same last May. We have never looked back! We bought the exact same model (2009) only 9k miles on the clock. We are averaging 25.1 miles to the gallon on our trip to Devon and Cornwall. We enjoyed moving site every 2 days or so and had a wonderful time. As long as you realise that you can't always nip down to the local supermarket, you will be fine. Unless of course you are considering a tow car! We took enough food away to last us 10 days and only needed to top up on basics like bread and milk. It's super to drive (so my other half tells me)! We have a pull out sun canopy and take along a couple of outdoor chairs and a table. Used the shower for the 1st time last week, as we stayed on a number of small sites, it was fine. Go for it! We also traded in our 4 wheel drive for a much smaller car, as we didn't need it to tow anything. Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted July 21, 2016 · IP There are certainly some nice MHs around these days but while there are various conversions out there, many seem to major on the same small range of base vehicles, which I feel is a shame. If you prefer a petrol or LPG powered vehicle then the choice is even more limited. Whatever vehicle you choose though it will be your choice and yours alone as you don't have to impress anyone else. I think it is good advice if changing from a towed caravan to at least initially keep all of your caravanning equipment, and as others have said, the only extra you may need is a water hose for topping up the fresh water tank. Depending on which sites you use if there is no MH service area, you may also need to retain some method of transporting waste water to a drain, and collecting fresh. If you are predominently touring then a more compact MH may best serve you, while if staying in one place for a while a larger one is probably better suited although alternative transport then needs to be considered such as bikes, a small car / motor bike, or staying near to bus services. Gordon. tonymilford One Star Approved Member 40 posts Locationnear Leeds Motorhome:Autotrail Tracker FB 2012 Author Posted July 21, 2016 · IP Thanks to you all for your input. We have just has a few days away in Brighton in our caravan and we saw quite a lot of motorhomes on the site and immediately 'Googled' them and also spoke to one owner of an Autotrail Apache 700 who was very helpful. My wife is just about convinced now but the outlay is still of some concern as it will almost certainly use all or most of our nest egg (rainy day funds). Still, as I keep pointing out to her, this is not a dress rehearsal and we may as well enjoy what we can, whilst we still can. Sod the kids inheritance! klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted July 21, 2016 · IP (edited) Tony The cost of changing put us off for a good few years. We even invested in a new caravan when we should have probably bit the bullet at that time. There were several reasons for us making the decision to swap. As we were getting older we realised that we couldn't cope with the caravan in some circumstances without a mover and we did have a situation when ours went wrong. We were also having problems with neighbours with too many cars always being parked in the wrong place making it a bit stressful when it came to get the caravan out of the back garden. Finally it was the prospect of having to buy a new tow car costing in the region of £25000 that persuaded us that it was the right time to think about changing to a motorhome. When we did the sums and went to visit a dealer when we got an idea of how much we would have the pay to swap, whilst being a lot of money it was perhaps not as bad as we had thought. As the say the rest is history!!! Good luck with your decision. David carabiker One Star Approved Member 24 posts LocationSouth Manchester Motorhome:Swift bolaro 630 PR Posted July 22, 2016 · IP Hi I retired at 55 years old and considered a motor home for over 10 years caravanned for over 40 years what convinced us to change : age now 68 years old minor heath problems Main point was we had to put both In Laws in Care homes ages 87 and 96 They had 1/2 Million in assets ( bungalow now sold ) the care homes for both cost £1450 PER WEEK live for today so the wife and brothers will not inherit any money The trend now is the meds keep the body going its the brain that fails, Please think about the above Best regards for the future Dave
  17. lawrie New to the board Approved Member 2 posts Locationyork Posted May 28, 2014 · IP Hi, We have sold our vw california and hope to buy a hymer from belgium or germany next year. Does anyone know if any UK hymer dealers will undertake warranty work for imports? Thanks Lawrie henrypartridge Two Star Approved Member 67 posts LocationNorth East Motorhome:Bailey Autograph 740 Posted May 28, 2014 · IP Isn't it the importer who pays for warranty work? Suspect you will have to return it the supplying country. klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted May 28, 2014 · IP Lawie I think you might find any UK Hymer importers a bit sniffy about doing warranty work on an imported van. Hopefully you won't have any problems. Many things in motorhomes are standard across the board so there should be no issue getting something sorted out. The only discussion might be who pays for it!!! When you take delivery of it perhaps a good idea to consider staying on a campsite near the dealer for a day or two just to check you don't have any major issues. If you do you can take it back to have it sorted before returning home. I don't think you will have any problems with the base vehicle as all the main makers have pan European warranties. David lawrie New to the board Approved Member 2 posts Locationyork Author Posted May 29, 2014 · IP Thanks for the advice The price difference in buying abroad could be around £5000 which would pay for a trip back to the German dealers a few times. I always thought warranty work was a big earner for car dealers. Clearly different for motorhomes. Cheers Lawrie Madrunner Three Star Approved Member 359 posts LocationDorset Posted May 29, 2014 · IP The general concensus with UK manufactured dealers are service work is a bigger earner than warranty work which is at a rate defined by the manufacturers. Hence warranty work can take forever to get through the dealers. They haven't yet worked out that by building better quality products this problem would become far less of an issue. Bless em - wrapped up in a fluffy little cottage industry.
  18. Jim Thomson New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationEdinburgh Motorhome:Elddis autoquest 175 Posted November 5, 2020 · IP Hi. I have just purchased a new 70 plate Elddis 175 from Perthshire caravans. During our second trip away we found that the shower tray leaked water when having a shower. The water seems to be coming from the door runner guides which allow water to drain from the guides at each end of the runners to below the shower tray. The water then appears on the outside of the shower tray and spills over the floor. Have taken it back to the dealer but they have no idea why this is happening so the have taken it in to strip out the shower to see what is causing the problem. Does anyone had this issue and if so what was the cause. Regards Jim Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted November 7, 2020 · IP That's a new one on me, although will doubtless be caused either poor installation and/or missing sealant.
  19. John H New to the board Approved Member 1 post LocationEast Anglia Motorhome:Elddis Majestic 115 Posted September 17, 2020 · IP Hi, I'm new to motorhomes and have just bought a new Elddis Majestic 115. First time we used it to sleep in I discovered it's impossible to switch off the over locker led strip lights without switching off all lights at the main panel. This is madness, if you want to switch on the toilet light in the middle of the night you put the main led lights on. I can't believe lots of folks haven't complained to Elddis, so have l missed something, or failing that does anyone know the best way to fit a switch for the LEDs. Thanks Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted September 18, 2020 · IP This is proof if ever it were needed, that the designers have not fully thought it through - or dare I say - used their own products? Many caravanners and motorhomers find this kind of niggle and when pointed out to the dealers, it may be acted upon for future designs, unfortunately from experience, once one problem is resolved then the designers inevitably introduce another problem for the following year.
  20. Bridge70 New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationNorthamptonshire Motorhome:Elddis 155 majestic Posted September 13, 2020 · IP I have a Elddis majestic 155 and want to know if I can attach a slim bin to the door without affecting its integrity klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted September 14, 2020 · IP We have one attached to the habitation door of our Bailey Alliance. The bins are quite small so won't be very heavy. Have you thought of contacting Elddis customer services for advice? David Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted September 15, 2020 · IP We have had small waste bins attached to the access door of a number of caravans however we found this not to be the most convenient location, particularly on warm days, when the door is held open. As a consequence on our MH we now use a free standing waste bin as there is a convenient location near to the kitchen area. On my in law's camper a waste bin was kept between the two seats of the cab area.
  21. Bobi New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationSuffolk Motorhome:Bailey approach advance 635 Posted September 26, 2020 · IP Hi, we have instructions direct from Bailey. We've located the camera cable but cannot find the 12v power and trigger connector which is shown in the same picture. We've found 3 single wires but the colouring doesn't match the picture. We're looking for black, red and green wires. Bailey seem to be covid-shut at the moment. If anyone has any knowledge of doing this, any help would be greatly appreciated Many thanks klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted September 28, 2020 · IP Bob I cheated and got my dealer to install our Vision Plus camera! Do you have a Facebook account? If so there is a very useful Bailey Motorhome Owners Group which might be able to help. David Bobi New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationSuffolk Motorhome:Bailey approach advance 635 Author Posted October 18, 2020 · IP Hi thank you so much for your reply. so sorry, I didn't realise I had an answer. I was assuming it'd email me to tell me but it didn't. I don't have a Facebook account but I might see what I can find on there. Husband has just got up to the point of feeding the camera cable through the back of the van. Can see from the inside where its meant to come through but not 100 per cent sure where to drill through from the outside. Somewhere near the brake light but worried we're going to come through somewhere wrong Thanks again for your help
  22. N Sankey New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationNorthants Motorhome:Autograph 75-4 Posted October 2, 2020 · IP Looking at getting a 2017 75-4, on occasion will be travelling with a total of 4 adults so about 400kg there. Can anyone advise on payload increase please, maybe to a max of 3850kg, not sure what standard payload is & is the driver & fuel already allowed for or is that part of the payload? Thanks klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted October 3, 2020 · IP The payload of that model based on a 3500kgs chassis seems to be 358 kgs which as you have already recognised is not enough for 3 adults (driver already include in base weight) It might be OK for a day trip out with a virtually empty motorhome but if you were going away, even for a weekend, I think you would be struggling to stay legal? It is possible to upgrade the weight but you will have to weigh the motorhome in travelling trim to check front and rear axles to make sure you have enough leeway to upgrade. This company http://www.svtech.co.uk/ is used by many motorhomers to upgrade the weight of their motorhomes so it might be an idea to have a word with them. You also have to be sure the tyres will support the weight of an upgraded van. David N Sankey New to the board Approved Member 2 posts LocationNorthants Motorhome:Autograph 75-4 Author Posted October 4, 2020 · IP Thanks David, wasn't sure if it did include driver & fuel. So once I decide which model I get, I will book a weigh bridge & then get in contact svtech, cheers klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted October 5, 2020 · IP There seems to be less and less included in the all in weight of the vans now. My original 2013 Approach 740SE had a payload of 550kgs and some things which are now extras were included in the weight of the van before payload was calculated. It won't be that many years down the road that people who passed their test after 1997 will probably start buying motorhomes and they will be restricted to 3500kgs. There are lots of motorhomes under 3500kgs with a good payload but probably not as luxurious as those with the lower payload? David
  23. Luvmabailey New to the board Approved Member 1 post LocationSouth Lanarkshire Motorhome:Bailey Autograph Posted September 1, 2020 · IP We have a 2015 Bailey Autograph 745 motorhome and have a problem with water ingress in the back corner beside the under bed storage locker. It’s now had 3 attempted fixes and has failed it’s hab check today with a 90% reading. Has anyone had the same problem and can advise how it was fixed. We are now wondering if it’s a design or build fault. Any advice would be appreciated and welcome Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted September 1, 2020 · IP Hi, welcome to MT forum. A number of members do have / have had Autographs so while I cannot help myself specifically with your model MH, hopefully one of the owners may have some ideas for you. Gordon. bikerbri Three Star Moderator 423 posts LocationShropshire Motorhome:Lunar Roadstar 620 Posted September 2, 2020 · IP If you 'Browse Forums' you will find some references to problems with Bailey motorhomes which seem to be design/build faults reported by others on the forum. klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted September 2, 2020 · IP We had a similar problem with our 2013 Approach 740. It was repaired by our dealer. I think they also changed the seal on the under bed door as they thought that was contributing to the damp. It might be worth asking on this Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1433322080268895/
  24. SteveT New to the board Approved Member 1 post LocationDevon Motorhome:Bailey Autograph Posted August 23, 2020 · IP Hi, have noticed a draft around the habitation door when the inside blind is down of our 97-4T autograph. On closer inspection today whilst away in Sweden, have noticed that the window appears to be loose at the top and furthermore only stuck on with Blue Peter double sided sticky tape. One pull and the window will be out. Have Bailey missed some kind of possible security breach. I cannot find anyway that the window can be screed or even clipped from the inside to sto the window being removed and the door opened. Anyone got any suggestions. Gordon Admin 984 posts LocationSouth Motorhome:Four Winds Hurricane RV Posted August 23, 2020 · IP That sounds like a worrying situation Steve. One or two members here have Autographs, so hopefully they'll be able to cast some light on your problem regarding the door window. In the meantime, I welcome you to "Motorhome Talk" and hope you soon get a more helpful response than I'm able to offer. Gordon. klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted August 24, 2020 · IP Is this the flush fitting Dometic door? I had an Approach with the Hartel door and that was a more traditional type fitting but my now Alliance has the flush fitting window. Ours is fine thus fat but I have heard that it can be a problem. Maybe best to give your dealer service department a ring to see if they have any ideas for you. We had a fair few problems with the Hartel door on our Approach but it was always the locking mechanism. Hope you get it sorted. David
  25. Clive Scarlett New to the board Approved Member 1 post LocationGloucestershire Motorhome:Bailey Autograph Posted November 18, 2019 · IP Had habitation service done by Southdown Motorhomes on my 2018 Bailey Aotograph Since returning home a “gas failure” warning has been continuously on my pane l which I have not been able to fix Have fitted a new gas bottle and checked all safety and pipe work and all is fine. Turning gas on,hob lights and works fine but panel still shows warning. Southdown has been no help. Anyone recognise this problem and have a fix? klyne Four Star Moderator 610 posts LocationMilton Keynes Motorhome:Bailey Alliance 66-2 Posted November 28, 2019 · IP Hi Clive Is there a reset button on the actual boiler? As its an Autograph I imagine you have the Alde heating system. On my Alliance we have the Truma. I was going to suggest it might be the anti shock button on the gas regulator but if you are getting gas to the hob it would rule that out. Sorry I can't be of more help. There is a Bailey Motorhome Owners Facebook Group which might be worth consulting as there is quite a lot of knowledge there.
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