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  1. Whilst the parts maybe cheap, as soon as you do any work on the steadies it will invalidate the warranty on them. Taking it back may seem a hassle but it is necessary to retain the warranty.
  2. With the very wet weather, and the ambient temperature being low, you will get condensation from just breathing , never mind cooking etc . You need a very good circulation of air to try and reduce it, which is difficult to achieve and have a comfortable environment.
  3. The en-route heating is designed only for those units that have a balanced flue heater, which Alde does not. In which case en-route heating cannot be used with an Alde system. It is one of the big anomalies that is very hard to understand. I have always failed to understand why caravans and motorhomes do not fall under Gas Safe regulations , particularly as they are subject to all kinds of vibrations,, and much more potentially exposed to unfavourable conditions compared to static vans and houses which never move. Added to that is a potential bomb sitting right in the front behind a very flimsy bit of plastic or grp and being towed at 60 mph down very busy roads...……...total madness in my view, but there it is. In my work I have to adhere to the latest rules and regulations, even though the van is not classed as such under GSIUR , and the work must be done in accordance with those regulations.
  4. Simple,you don't! There is no need to get inside the flush tank unless there is a fault, so leave it alone. What you can do, if you really are bothered is fill the tank with a solution of Milton and leave for half an hour then drain and flush through with fresh water. It is not as if you are going to drink water from this tank and the contamination people Talk about is mainly from those who use an additive in the flush water, just use plain ordinary water and don't have the problem to start with.
  5. What is so hard to understand ? I am at a loss as to why anyone would want to use the heater when towing as there is so much fixed ventilation in a caravan that any heat will be sucked straight out anyway.
  6. You have the Nordelettronica system and that is very well known to a rubbish system. However, help is at hand by way of Paul at Apuljack engineering. He specialises in repairing these units and is the very best . Give him a rig and he will Talk you through certain checks and then suggest a resolution. I have used his services on numerous occasions on behalf of customers and his service is quite reasonably priced and quick
  7. 1 Yes 2 Only the en-route heating system, NOTHING else. However, if not using the en-route heater, then ALL gas must be shut off.
  8. I also have , as above, many certificates for the various items I deal with on a daily basis, and like your son in law I am regularly inspected and tested and have to re sit the entire qualification process every three years. Not only is his, and my,livelihood dependent on those certificates, so is everyone life dependent on the quality of work I do. Gas does not take prisoners, it kills without a second thought, which is why the pass mark for gas qualifications is 100%, nothing less is good enough !!!!!! Google is your friend! Yes you are quite right in quoting that, but that only applies to the private individual who can butcher or change anything on the gas side of a caravan , providing that van is used ONLY by himself and no one else. However, all installations are carried out to a standard and the makers have stuck to the recommendations as per GSIUR as that is the safest and best way of having a conformity of product that is proven to be the best. In my work I come across quite a lot of dangerous bodge jobs done by owners who think they know best, but actually know the quickest way to kill someone. Upon finding such things I have no option but to insist on remedial action or if that is refused, to cap off the pipework so that the system cannot be used.
  9. No, there is not, as the "advice" uses "should" be turned off and not "Will" or "Shall", which would make it mandatory, but sheer common sense would suggest that it is the safest way. However, common sense seems to be sadly missing or just plain ignored if it does not fit with a persons view.
  10. Yes. CCLP1 (B), CCLP1(LAV), CCLP1(RPH), HTRLP2, HTRLP3, REFLP2, WAHLP1, WATLP2, CENWAT, CKR1, CPA1, HTR1. The following are taken from the Swift Handbook, Page 77: WARNING: Unless en-route heating is in use the LPG cylinder valve should be closed when travelling. WARNING: When travelling using the en-route system all other LPG appliance shut off valves must be in the closed position including the fridge, cooker, water heater etc. WARNING: It is dangerous and illegal to operate other LPG appliances when travelling. It must be noted that en-route heating is model specific, it is NOT fitted to every model.
  11. I have nothing to apologise for. The Truma information clearly states " The integrated crash sensor allows you to heat your vehicle safely while you're driving. It prevents gas escaping should you be involved in an accident." It does NOT say that you can operate any other gas appliance. That information is quite clear in that it relates to motorhomes, with an addition of a recommendation that a crash sensor system is considered for caravans. The crash sensor is just for that reason, to stop the escape of gas if involved in a crash, but the rule for transporting gas is that the shut off valve must be closed, which makes it rather redundant. As a footnote, I have nothing more to say on the subject as I am totally amazed at the advice that is seemingly so wrong is given out and flies in the face of safety
  12. Rule 1 Transport of gas cylinders...……...the main shut off valve MUST be in the closed condition. Dometic, Alde and Thetford went to all the trouble to put 3 sources of working in their products. 230v for when connected to a mains supply, gas for use if no electric is available and 12v to operate the appliance on the move.
  13. Having that system does not mean that you can use gas appliances whilst moving as no one is allowed to be in the van on tow ! The crash sensor is just that,a crash safety sensor. So what?
  14. As a Gas Safe registered engineer and a fully qualified NCC Approved Workshop I am very aware of gas safety regulations and what is safe and what is not. You may be something to do with legal things but never ever try and tell me what is right or wrong regarding gas safety. Yes there is a system which was designed allow heating to be used in motorhomes, but it was not designed for anything else and was never designed for a caravan. A fridge would never work in either vehicle as the flame is so small that it would blow out as soon as the vehicle was moving. The heater in a motorhome however has a different flue arrangement to stop this , but the fridge does not. Also the flame in a heater is totally enclosed , the fridge flame is not and there have been several instances of fires in the burner area , and they were on sites, not moving ! Another point is that with a naked flame one would never be able to stop at a fuel station without first switching it off, and should you travel by sea and left the gas appliance on, you would be liable to be charged with endangering the ship and passengers,,,,get out of that !!!!
  15. Are you for real????????????????? It is so stupid to suggest that . All gas should be turned off during transit for safety and it is totally irresponsible to suggest what you have.
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