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#41 PBarton

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:14 PM

Exactly .People sit behind caravans moaning about the speed should first learn the highway code .


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I am very much aware of the Highway code thanks. Only now have i had a chance to review replies. Only just noticed mistake on first OP and yes should have typed 50mph not 60 and can't edit it. As for moaning about speed of caravan in front, who wouldn't. Obviously this person wasn't comfortable towing and was a danger on the road towing at that speed!!

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:43 PM

It does seem motorists have a "must get past the caravan" mentality, I have had lots of dangerous 'overtakes' on me whilst towing only to find that the offending car then slows down to the same speed as me.....very strange. Of course, the best drivers out there are pretty blondes..... they just seem to do everything perfectly ........ :)

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

Agree with the points on the Highway Code here, but also , did it occur to the OP that ,JUST possibly, the caravanner in question might have been out on his first trip ever , or at best, was stiill a little in-experienced, we've all been there ,(haven't we ? B) )
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:41 PM

OP is making a good point! I personally would never tow at 38mph on a 50 road. This causes other drivers to become frustrated and make stupid mistakes. It could have been his first time towing but come on.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:46 PM

OP is making a good point! I personally would never tow at 38mph on a 50 road. This causes other drivers to become frustrated and make stupid mistakes. It could have been his first time towing but come on.

That "come on " bit of your post says that you would rather someone drove outside their current level of expertise, just to please other people, or does it mean otherwise ?? :rolleyes:
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:50 PM

That "come on " bit of your post says that you would rather someone drove outside their current level of expertise, just to please other people, or does it mean otherwise ?? :rolleyes:
Mike R.


If your not comfortable towing then don't tow! Towing at that speed puts lives at risk.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:56 PM

I am very much aware of the Highway code thanks. Only now have i had a chance to review replies. Only just noticed mistake on first OP and yes should have typed 50mph not 60 and can't edit it. As for moaning about speed of caravan in front, who wouldn't. Obviously this person wasn't comfortable towing and was a danger on the road towing at that speed!!


Just because theres a speed limit you dont have to tow at that speed .You drive to the conditions of the road .

most caravans i have followed travel at about 40 mph on twisting country roads and about 45mph-50 mph only on straight roads with good vision ahead .

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:00 PM

If your not comfortable towing then don't tow! Towing at that speed puts lives at risk.

Sorry , can't quite agree with that comment, I think lives are more at risk from the drivers who become impatient and irritable :rolleyes:
Cheers Mike R.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:02 PM

This was on a straight road with excellent driving conditions. The point i was trying to make on OP was this caravan driver was putting other peoples life's in danger. Like I said tailback was long and drivers were overtaking us thinking we were the ones holding everybody up.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:24 PM

My first few times out where real slow. Not THAT slow though :)

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:29 PM

He should be aware of the traffic behind him and pull over at the first opportunity, however, I will never criticise a driver for travelling at that sort of speed it is his choice and in many circumstances it can be the right one.


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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:52 PM

ok here goes!!!!, the speed limit on any road is a maximum speed, there is no reason on earth you have to travel at that maximum speed.as for the driver of the caravan "putting other peoples lifes in danger"!!!!!!!, i dont think so.
as said before might have been his 1st outing, he may be a steady driver solo, he was on holiday may have been just going at a speed that was ok for him. lets just chill :)
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:04 PM

on my first tow tomorrow, hope i dont come across some of the posters on here, i will tow to my best ability and will pull in as much as possible, however im sure i will speed up as experience beholds me :rolleyes:

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:17 PM

The traffic behind you only see the back of YOUR VAN so they blame you but how do you feel when you can happily tow up to the permitted speed limit and cars behind still hate you

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:27 PM

there is one stretch of road by me (A46 evesham to the M5) thats a 60 limit and i can only do 50 in my van, as commercial motors cant travel more than 50 (so bare that in mind if you drive a van etc!)
but anyway this road if anyone has been down it is not to bad of a road if you go at 50/60 but when you follow a wagon at 40 you get some stupid over taking going on!
i know that lorrys have to travel at 40 but on some roads there has got to be some leway! as i see more near crashes when cars try and over take a lorry than i do if there is no lorries about!

and i dont really get stuck behind caravans i have been stuck behind people that REALLY shouldnt have a driving licence anymore! 25/30 in a 60 is bloody dangerous!

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:38 PM

there is one stretch of road by me (A46 evesham to the M5) thats a 60 limit and i can only do 50 in my van, as commercial motors cant travel more than 50 (so bare that in mind if you drive a van etc!)
but anyway this road if anyone has been down it is not to bad of a road if you go at 50/60 but when you follow a wagon at 40 you get some stupid over taking going on!
i know that lorrys have to travel at 40 but on some roads there has got to be some leway! as i see more near crashes when cars try and over take a lorry than i do if there is no lorries about!

and i dont really get stuck behind caravans i have been stuck behind people that REALLY shouldnt have a driving licence anymore! 25/30 in a 60 is bloody dangerous!


Well said, yes it's bloody dangerous.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:45 PM

Super market supply trucks and fuel tankers will always do 40 on single carriage ways because it's their limit. Their company's are very strict enforcing this. If a driver was in an accident and speed was an issue they could be dismissed. They also have timed delivery's which are based on speed limits worked out by computers

I have a HGV1 and it's a stupid speed limit (40) from yonks ago when heavy trucks were very different from todays. Todays trucks have very good brakes etc. If we could do 50 I think must folk would be happy to sit behind at 50 and just accept it, whereas at 40 it's too slow and stressful and encourages a bad overtake.

I also ride a bicyle which is my prefered method of transport, ride a motorcycle, spend most of my time on tractors now, tow a caravan and drive an articulated 44ton truck, used to have a pilots licence but won't brag :P

Whilst driving my tractor on the road you would not belive how many steering wheel monitors sit 2 metres behind me with absolutley no chance of seeing past, before long there is a queue and no one will make a move. So I have to pull over and take the flak, fist shaking etc. If only they hung back 100m they would see their chances for an over take! easy peasy

Just got to take it all easy folk :)


Good post.

If only other HGV drivers would recognise the 40mph rule on single carriageway roads. I have been harrassed many times over the years by HGV drivers when I have been trying to keep down to a legal maximum of 50mph when towing. It is often quite difficult to pull over to let them pass. The last thing I want travelling feet behind me is an HGV.

Regarding slow moving vehicles in general, all vehicles that can legally travel on the road have a perfect right to be there. In my opinion it is the driver behind who is incapable or unwilling to pass that causes the problem. They are the ones who hold up other drivers by not holding back and leaving a good gap for faster moving vehicles to over take.

An example which still sticks in my mind from over thirty years ago was when I was towing somewhere in East Anglia on a long straight flat single carriageway road with deep ditches on both sides and no laybyes whatsoever for miles. It seemed to go on for ever. I had a Trumph 2000 and a Lunar 12ft, well within its capabilities. There was family in an old (even then) Morris Minor right up behind me. The driver made no attempt to overtake whatsoever despite my encouraging hand signals and left-hand flashes. etc.. Consequently a long queue built up of irate drivers all of which no doubt held me responsible for the delay. When eventually the road widened a little they all shot past with lots of gesticulation and horn blowing. Just up the road was a roundabout and a number of them were involved in a concertina shunt. Naturally I was to blame for that too!

Nothing changes. My father used to talk about the 50's and 60's when he had to tow a threshing machine and bale press with tractors which he said would only do 8 (eight) mph flat out unladen. He would get most irate drivers behind him blowing their horns and swearing at him. No doubt however they didn't mind benefitting from the food products which were made from the grain that the machine produced.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:00 PM

on my first tow tomorrow, hope i dont come across some of the posters on here, i will tow to my best ability and will pull in as much as possible, however im sure i will speed up as experience beholds me :rolleyes:

Thank heavens, a post from a very sensible and intelligent new caravanner, well said .
Cheers Mike R.

Edited by michael r, 24 February 2012 - 07:01 PM.


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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:10 PM

Just come back from trip away at Ord House. Got stuck behind another caravan towing at 38 miles an hour on a 60 road. Tailback unbelievable. What made it even more dangerous was people overtaking us thinking we were the one holding everybody up. Anybody else had this experience.


If it was a caravan '60' road it would have been a dual carriageway.

If it was a single carriageway then it was a caravan '50' road?

But never the less, towing at 38 is inconsiderate if law and the conditions allow 50. Having said that, there are many roads in our county that would bounce the caravan contents around unmercifully at 50!



One of my irritations is timid drivers following me (doing 50) at 48, and refusing to overtake.
I regularly tow home along a 40mile stretch of A road with many straight overtaking opportunities and yet there are always 3 or 4 cars 'content' to sit behind me. Drivers have to come from 4 cars back to get past the caravan 'causing the blockage'. I have tried slowing down to give the person following more incentive to overtake...they slow down too.









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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:27 PM

I have often thought that one of those signs where you can put a message on (like in a doctors surgery) would be great to have in the back window of the 'van. Then you could put your own message on like "It's not me holding you up it's the car in front of me" Hey!!! what a brill idea...Peter




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